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The March 24th and 27th articles point to a serious amount of potential corruption in the EPSO. First, you report that the County Attorney (Amy Folsom) recommends the elimination of the Sheriff’s office HR department. That can only mean that the Sheriff’s HR is inept and/or corrupt. And a messed up HR department usually means lawsuits from those who’s employment rights have been violated.
And the Monday report, that a supervisor accused of sexual harassment has been assigned to the same shift as the person who made the complaint, clearly shows that Amy Folsom is right. The County Commissioners had better make that move, and make it quickly.
Unless, of course, they are part of the corruption. Is a cover-up in progress? And given the County Commissioners’ continued public support for Sheriff Bill Elder, what other conclusion could you make?
I think I remember that Elder came to be Sherriff after the County Commissioners, led by Peggy Littleton, dropped their support for Sheriff Maketa, who eventually resigned. And following that, the District Attorney convened a Grand Jury that ultimately indicted Maketa, Paula Pressley, and Juan San Agustin on various charges.
But here we are, a year later, and the only thing that has really happened in the legal world is that Maketa, Pressley, and San Agustin have filed notice of intent to sue. Where is the criminal trial? Are the charges real, or are they about to evaporate? Is the County trying to silence or intimidate Maketa, Pressley, and San Agustin? Is the corruption so widespread as to involve key figures in El Paso County Government?
The only way to get rid of corruption is for the media to keep reporting; but for some reason, the Gazette is silent.
Please keep us updated on the criminal trials for Maketa, Pressley, and San Agustin, and on the status of their pending lawsuits.
Simply Google Maketa and you will find he is headed to trial the end of May. The others entered a plea and are silently waiting to see what happens in the Maketa trail before making any deals. Their lawsuits are just a distraction from the real concerns regarding their actions.
We had not really thought much about the up coming trial(s) as we are focused on Bill Elder, his leadership team, and the current environment. But you bring up some interesting points.
Also to clarify; Presley and San Agustin have not submitted pleas yet.
Maketa retired, he did not resign.
All the more power to the group behind this dirtyelder.com website! Many of us commend you for taking a stance and not being afraid to expose the filth and corruption of Bill Elder and his cronies (and we all know who they are)!
It’s no surprise the County is playing their diversion tactics and trying to keep focus off of Bill Elder and his corruption! They are just as much a part of the curruption! It’s a shame so many lives have been damaged because of it; but hey, those little bitxhes can’t run for long. The truth will prevail and it will be too late for them to beg for forgiveness. In due time they will have to face the wrath and pay for their sins!
And Bill Elder should be thrown out of office for blatebtly lying to the taxpayers/voters of this community and damaging the lives of some very good former employees of EPSO. He is a disgrace and is the one guilty of abusing power. POS
Look, the Grim Reaper (aka Bill Elder) has already reared his ugly face. We don’t have to wait for him to arrive, he is already here! He injected his poison back in 2014 and it hasn’t stopped since! His evil will only continue to destroy this Office. It has already ruined the lives and reputations of some very good people; it has fostered an environment of sexual harassment and sexual deviance from those he holds close, and has cast a very black dark cloud over the Office. More lives will be ruined and the taxpayers will continue to get fucXed. What the heck will it take to remove the cancer that is Bill Elder and his “Command Staff” of idiots, Amy Folsom, Diana May and Lisa Kirkman, D-bag Darrly Glenn, etc? What will it take?
Good Point, the Grim Reaper has arrived. We have updated the post. The Grim Reaper has already ruined multiple lives and will ruin many more before he’s done.
I have followed this site for quite some time and cannot believe a man of Bill Elder’s integrity and ethics would allow this crap to happen! Here’s some advice for Bill:
1. Surround yourself with qualified personnel that will uphold the code of ethics of the department! You owe no one on your staff a damn thing–despite the SMALL donations they made to your election. Both Huffors are immature and not ready for the position you entrusted them to have. If Bill Huffor is your mentee and destined to be your replacement then you need take a serious look in the mirror and call yourself an idiot!
2. Be a leader and rid yourself of those not meeting your expectations. It’s about the EPSO and you MUST bring back professionalism and integrity to the department-you did promise that?
It’s time for you to step up and BE THE SHERIFF!
We can complain and cry all we want. Nothing is ever going to change. There is no one in the Command Staff that I respect anymore, their all in bed with that looser. Maybe its time to try a Democrat candidate (Sir, put down the gun). Seriously what other alternative is there. We can not keep supporting the current regimes puppets or these career politicians.
All I heard from everybody and I mean everybody, “Oh Elder is gonna be so great, he’s the Chief of Fountain PD, la la la la la….Yeah, the Chief a of 30 man Department woppitty do. I told everyone then, “I dont know why your so excited nothing is going to change for you”.
I was right. They pretended to shuffle the deck when all they did was change the top two cards. We all got play and guess what? Next election another one of those dumbies will play us again. We’re stupid enough to fall for it. One of them will wait until Elders last year and pull a Benedict Arnold and claim that they were the one voice of opposition. Everyone will bit hook line and sinker and then; here we go again.
And there are Lts and sergeants drinking the koolaid too. One particular husband and wife team in the upper ranks and anther particular husband and wife team in the sergeant ranks are helping spread the corruption through intimidation and gossip and making threats in briefings and organizing public displays of retaliation. Elected officials and their “cabinet of appointees” leave with new elections. Lts and sergeants usually stay. People will remember who drank that koolaid.
Lieutenants and Sergeant stay? Not so much. Have you not been counting? There are, what, seventeen Lieutenant positions? We all know that Lieutenant is the “top end” for promotion as Command Staff spots are political appointments. So, what have the Lieutenants been doing? Leaving in droves. In thee past 12 months you have lost Hunt, Jaworski, McMorran, Brandt, Athey, Burns, Williams, and others are looking for jobs too. They know if they are not part of “the family” then their careers are over. Those Lieutenants had around 25 or more years of experience each, all gone.
Good point! And it backs up the point initially made. Sergeants and Lieutenants have usually planned to make EPSO a career. Political appointees come and go with the Sheriff. So, those Sergeants (one particular husband and wife pair) and Lieutenant (one particular husband and appointed wife pair) who drink the koolaid should be fine while they warm up to the politics in the hallways (playing the game) while also attempting to connect with the deputies in the wards (playing the game). The Seregants and Lieutentants who don’t drink the koolaid, well, your point exactly!
Bottom line, those who drink from that cup can’t be trusted by anyone, not even by the ones pouring it, and definitely not by line level. Be careful of the ones smiling in your face with red flavor koolaid stain around their lips. Or grape, whatever the flavor of the day is!
Anyone who lived in Fountain and needed Fountain PD for anything serious (and was told, “It’s a civil matter—there’s nothing we can do!” when they showed up an hour after the event in question) knew that Bill Elder was going to be a cancer to EPSO.
Fountain is just a dumping ground for EPSO’s trash. It’s filled with cast away deputies and retired MP’s who know nothing about law enforcement. The worst is the Chief there, Heberrer. Fountain needs to be exposed just as much as EPSO.
Over the past few weeks, EPSO has set up several speed traps in the eastern part of town (and that is, indeed, their sole purpose). First, it smacks of desperation to generate some revenue for the increasingly destitute agency. Second, setting speed traps (as opposed to actually maintaining a vigilant presence in more secluded areas such as out east) is not sitting well with residents of those towns. Ergo, once 1A comes up for a vote, those same people are going to remember that despite “needing more money,” EPSO has the resources to post several officers down a 10-mile stretch of road several times a week, several times a day. And if most of us did not have a dog in this fight, can you honestly say that you, as a tax payer, would vote to continue to fund this corrupt administration?
Not sure who this person is. It’s obvious they are not an employee. If they were they would know that we no longer have a traffic unit (Thanks Elder/Evans) and during the day, patrol calls for service are stacked and deputies are running call to call. If a patrol deputy can get one or two stops in during a 10 hour shift they are lucky. Speed traps? Seriously? Grow up.
Fully aware of the traffic unit issue, thanks. Sitting for hours on end in the same place, pulling people over and not moving for another couple of hours…sure. If only all deputies at EPSO were so lucky.
Dude Ciot is in effect the state was giving money for people to work traffic for seat belt violation.
Fines from traffic tickets go to the county general fund, not the sheriff’s office budget coffers.
Your last article about the POST grant was a complete lie. I was there and heard every word. You are no better than tabloid news. Elder stood up and explained the whole situation for twenty minutes. There was no indication of any wrongdoing. In fact it was an attempt to be fiscally responsible.
If you’re going to post stories make sure they are factual. You have as much credibility as a tabloid. Nothing you post can be trusted.
So your saying that taking $225,000.00, spending that money and then having to return the money is being fiscally responsible??? In what world do you live in where that is considered responsible? Where exactly is that money going to come from? Clearly Elder did something shady to get the money or he wouldn’t have to give it back…….
Getting grant funding for projects is being responsible. The money was returned because it wasn’t used. If you’d been there you would know the truth. All I am doing is standing for truth. Watching first hand how this site twisted the truth of what occurred is eye opening. IF you claim to expose the truth then be truthful. Lying And sensationalizing is tabloid news. If you weren’t there then find out the truth. Don’t believe everything you read.
Sounds like you’re the poster child for hypocrisy, or one of them. You preach about truth on one hand, but yet you and your cronies spread lies on the other. Just so you know, being two-faced isn’t an attractive trait!
And, no one is saying grant funding isn’t being fiscally responsible per se, it’s the intentional MISUSE and MISREPRESENTATION of such funding that screams financial IRRESPONSIBILTY. One might say, Elder and Carey’s double-dealing smells a little like fraud.
Oh and by the way, there is plenty of evidence to show Elder knows NOTHING about being fiscally responsible both in his private life and “professional” life. Now, there is some more truth for you!
Smart people can see through Elder’s incessant lies and manipulation used to capitalize on one’s incompetence and weak-mindedness, hence the reason he is surrounded by so many losers. The not-so-smart people fall for his bull**** and lack the mental capacity to understand even the basics. Whether Elder used the word “wrongdoing” or not, the mere fact that he has to return $225,000 of grant money to the State is a huge RED flag! Don’t be fooled, getting jammed up for misusing grant money DOES NOT represent fiscal responsibility, rather a sign of irresponsibility and malfeasance.
Talk about lacking credibility! The Elder Adminstrarion and the filth that comes along with it LACKS CREDIBILITY as it’s made up of a bunch of sexual deviants, liars, thieves and bottom feeders!
Don’t be a hater! Dirtyelder.com is exposing the filth that exists within the Elder Administration and El Paso County government.
Whether the weak minded incompetents like it or not, your boy is being exposed for the filth that he is. Now, the truth hurts, doesn’t it?
In response to comments made by “Tabloid news”.
It’s a good idea to actually know the facts before you accuse others of misstating the facts.
The POST grant funds were spent in 2016. In fact, the requirement for getting the grant is that they had to spend the money the same fiscal year. It’s our understanding they had to spend the money by June 30, 2016; which they did! If you had read the first article you would have seen that the money was spent on a turning target system which is sitting in crates at PPIR (or it was at the time).
We appreciate your comments because it reminded us that we did not make it clear in the article that Elder already spent the money and will most likely use 2017 EPSO funds to pay the money back. We have updated the article. So, thank you for that.
Also, if you were in the room as you say, you would have known the money had to be spent soon because it was discussed at the same time (read the meeting minutes), so we doubt you are being truthful. But even if you were “in the room” when Elder explained why he needed the funds there is no problem. We know he explained why the funds were needed. The problem is his facts were wrong and misleading. There was no urgent need for a new range; EPSO and CSPD had access to other ranges which has been proven because they are still using them to this day. So, Elder has been proven a liar, again.
We have more information concerning COTIPS (Colorado Training Institute for Public Safety) that we will be publishing in the future. It is very interesting.
As they say; the proof is in the pudding. Elder stated in a meeting he is going to pay the money back, so he either lied in the meeting and has no intentions of paying the funds back or he openly admitted to wrong doing by agreeing to pay the money back. Corrupt either way.
We stand behind our story and have provided facts to support it.
Total incompetence once again rules the day at the SO. Just took a look at their so-called variance reports of the 1A money on the SO website. You know, the reports those idiots have been scrambling to create since dirtyelder.com called them out on it. Well, it’s no surprise; their variance reports are useless and technically are still in non-compliance with the ballot language. It may look good at first glance, but if you’re the type that actually studies the material, you will see those reports provide no true transparency and actually are riddled with inaccuracies and mistakes! Quite frankly, there are some transactions that look suspicious. Heck, these reports don’t even line-up with what they report in the Annual Report for 2016 and may not even for 2015. Inconsistencies can serve as a red flag for financial impropriety.
It’s pretty disheartening to know that our tax money is being managed by a bunch of incompetent fools, but so long as those idiots get paid and the taxpayers continue to get screwed, the Board doesn’t care. They carry on with blinders.
Note to Janet: The honorable thing to do now is repay the County for all the money you have been paid the last 2.5 years for a job that you were not qualified for and should never have been assigned, divorce that POS husband of yours and go hide. I have a feeling Karma isn’t done with you yet.
That is a rather dumb ploy to garner sympathy; few employees would sympathize with her as she is seen as part of the problem. She would have stood a better chance at sympathy if she would have gone trailer park on her husband when the sex assault allegations came out and threw his stuff on the lawn. The only tears shed when the Chief of Stuff leaves will be her own crocodile tears.
This website is about corruption in the El Paso County Sheriff Office. But it appears the corruption is in the El Paso County District Attorney Office as well.
The kidnapping charges against Maketa are being dropped. That means the case against Maketa doesn’t exist. Fox21news.com reports that instead of Maketa, it was Shannon Gerhart who inappropriately ordered an arrest and detention. But no one has filed charges against her.
So the question for District Attorney Dan May is, why aren’t you pursuing charges against the real perpetrator in the kidnapping? Are you covering for someone?
This corruption thing is getting bigger and bigger. I wonder how much of the Arapaho DA office is part of this corruption and coverup. How deep into this is Mark Hurlbert willing to step?
First, Dan May cannot pursue charges as he has recused himself and the 4th Judicial District Attorney’s Office from prosecuting this case due to conflict of interests. Second, if former DDA Shannon Gerhart has testified before the grand jury, she would not be able to be charged unless she was served a targeted subpoena. Targeted subpoenas are the ones served on the persons under investigation. Recipients of a targeted subpoena must appear, but they are not required to testify against their best interests. If you receive a regular subpoena to the grand jury, you must appear and answer questions, however, you cannot be charged because you are being compelled to testify.
Third, in every investigation and trial, someone nearly always is offered a deal (as an example, the detective conducting the investigation was likely the arresting officer as well) and the deal usually results in no charges being filed. Sometimes you let some go to get the big ones.
All very interesting. And informative; I’m not part of law enforcement, nor am I a lawyer. I can’t quote statute; I just call it like I see it.
Did Dan May recuse the entire 4th DA Office, or just himself? Doesn’t really matter. His prior work history says he just came from the 18 Judicial District; so he has the same conflict using a DA from that district that he does if he were to have the 4th District prosecute this case. Corruption here, corruption there. Corruption everywhere.
You’re telling me that Gerhard testifying gives her immunity even if, after the testimony, it turns out she was complicit? As in, she has immunity? Anything for a sitting judge. Did I say corruption?
It will be interesting to watch this. The ADA prosecuting this case from the 18 District, Mark Hurlbert, also was the DA in Eagle County when Kobe Bryant was charged. Pamela Mackey, who was Kobe Bryant’s defense lawyer, is also Maketa’s lawyer. So this is Hurlbert vs Mackey, chapter 2.
When the Bryant case began to fall apart, Hurlbert bailed and dropped all charges. Now, I see charges being dropped on Maketa.
The way I see it, if Hurlbert is looking for a way to remove himself from all this corruption, he’ll be dropping more charges between now and Wednesday. Convenient.
it’s interesting that current Undersheriff Joe Breister’s name is brought up as visiting with the investigators. It is a well-known fact amongst several people in the sheriffs office that just prior to the grand jury convening, Joe Breister said in an open meeting that if Maketa,Presley and San Augustine want to talk to the media they are about to
get a nuke dropped on them. Guess his daily visits with the investigators were quite substantive. On another note, it seems odd that even if witnesses are compelled to testify in a grand jury, that they can’t be held liable for perjury.
This website is about corruption.
I reread the Fox21News article that reports the District Attorney office filed a motion to dismiss kidnapping charges against Maketa, Pressley, and San Agustin. That article reports that Shannon Gerhart ordered a Detective named Kaiser to arrest Kelli Trull; as it turns out, this arrest was illegal—it was without probable cause. Fox21news also reports that, at the time of the “false” arrest, San Agustin was not in the building. Imagine his surprise when he learned he was being charged for an arrest that occurred when he was not in the building.
Same with Maketa and Pressley; they were not in the building during the time of the “kidnapping”.
At the time of the kidnapping, Gerhart was Chief Deputy District Attorney; she worked for the District Attorney, Dan May. Dan May knew Gerhart ordered the arrest. So how could Dan May possibly justify charging San Agustin for Trull’s arrest? How has Dan May maintained, for over a year that Maketa, Pressley, and San Agustin improperly arrested someone? Remember, all three of them were not even in the building, let alone part of the arrest.
And now, a week prior to trial, and all quiet and hush hush, Dan May wants to secretly drop these charges.
Gerhart’s reaps a serious reward for staying quiet and playing along with May’s scheme; she was appointed to a position as County Judge.
Shannon Gerharr: Job for life.
Maketa, Pressley, San Agustin: not so much.
What I can’t figure out is, “What’s in all this for Dan May?”
Well, more and more corruption. Or is it more and more incompetence? Recently, the prosecuting District Attorney from the “not-so-neutral-because-Dan-May-used-to-work-there” 18th District asked the judge to drop two felony charges against Maketa. Really? After holding those charges for a year?
Now today, during jury selection, it turns out the jury questionnaire had “a mistake” on it; it told prospective jurors that one of the charges against Maketa was attempted murder.
So, any juror who is reasonably current on the news has now been told that Maketa will be charged with kidnapping, false imprisonment, and attempted murder. Oh but wait. Nah, never mind. The judge will just tell them to disregard all that; it was just a mistake.
This practically guarantees the Defense will be able to appeal any conviction. What a waste of taxpayer money, and of jurors’ time.
But the 4th Judicial District (Dan May), and now the 18th Judicial District (prosecutor Mark Hurlbert) would have everyone believe there is no corruption. Even the Gazette is in their pocket; it repeatedly refers to Maketa as “disgraced former sheriff”.
I think the disgrace is Dan May and Mark Hurlbert; and Bill Elder; and Joe Breister. Who knows how far into El Paso County this corruption goes; perhaps into the County Commission?
And I am more convinced than ever that there will be some sort of additional chicanery from the Prosecution. Perhaps in the form of more dropped charges? I am guessing we’ll know soon enough.
Looks like there is a whole other side to this Maketa thing. There are some interesting facts coming out of the trial that we’ve never been privy to. My assumption would be that once the Defense begins introducing their witnesses, there will be a plethora of new information that has never been heard.
Observations made via popping into the courtroom and following tweets:
1. Lt. Kull is a whackadoo.
2. Lt. Kull and Sgt. Gerhart are proud of their admitted policy violations while claiming to be targeted.
3. Ex-Undersheriff Goodall, an avid Elder supporter and lead on the Maketa recall attempt, is spending time with each witness prior to testifying.
4. No evidence and very limited discussion about the actual charges.
5. Prosecution seems to be dodging any discussion about Lt. Kull and Sgt. Gerhart failing CVSA tests prior to their resignations.
As the Maketa Trial has come to a close and the jury deliberates, I would remind all the readers that Maketa is no victim in this; he and Elder are cut from the same cloth. Both chose to lead with fear and intimidation. It remains to be seen if there is enough proof beyond a reasonable doubt to convict Former Sheriff Maketa on any of the charges. I would point out that it is not illegal to be a horrible boss; there are hundreds off them spread across the organizations in both public and private sector. However, being a huge Richard to your employees does place you in a position that paybacks can be a real female dog!!! I believe that the court trial laid a great foundation for civil action against Maketa, but I am not confident that he will be convicted on any criminal charges.
So please do tell mr. or mrs. “Esquire” just how exactly has Mr. Maketa trial “laid a great foundation for civil action against Maketa” as you have vaguely pointed out?…….. us simple minded folk would like to know. Because as far as I know, being a boss that everyone doesn’t like, doesn’t rise to the level of civil action. And furthermore, the court system either civilly or criminally was not intended to be used for carrying out vendettas or dislike.
While I am not an attorney (though I played one in school….and I’ve slept in a Holiday Inn Express) I have had my share of court room experience (and no, not as a defendant). My statement is based upon some of the statements made in court, plus knowledge of Maketa’s past behavior towards subordinates that would go beyond just being a bad supervisor. Many current and former supervisors and deputies have endured humiliation at the hands of Maketa and Presley; a dressing down that is far in excess of the transgression that had occurred done only it seemed to cement who was in charge. The grand jury was only able to come up with the few charges he faced; the investigation likely looked into the allegations of fiscal mismanagement and either no evidence of wrongdoing was found or insufficient evidence was found to charge criminally. Reparations to Habert, Porter, Gerhart and Kull have already been made; others are waiting to be reviewed for likely payouts. O. J. Simpson wasn’t convicted of murder but a civil court found him libel in his wife’s death (I’m not saying Maketa is like OJ). In closing, I would agree that the court system was not intended to be used as a tool of revenge….but unfortunately, it oftentimes is used for that exact purpose.
Well, that was certainly an interesting response. But did not answer my question. Which was “how did that lay a great foundation for civil action against Makita” The response was much like that of the prosecutions charges………. A lot of attempted character assassination but no facts or evidence produced to back up what is being said……. just alot of “he said, she said”
Former Sheriff Maketa Has been vendicated! I can imagie that Elder and Briester are scatching their heads wondering how thier plan failed to net Maketa jail time. After all Maketa had Briester walked out and investigated Elders missing file. HOW DARE HE! !! I also wonder if CBI or another law enforcement agency will prosecute the many alleged victims who knowingly lied to the grand jury then to the jury during the trial.
I also hope that the AGs office looks into the El Paso County Attorneys office and why Amy Folsom gave in to these same liars and paid out civil judgements with even trying a case.
The stink of this trumped up endeavor can be smelled across the state, and the shame across the nation!
So much could be said; but, one question: now that Bill Elder has proven publicly for all to see that he lied under oath during the trial, shouldn’t his name (and maybe others also) be placed on the Brady List? This by far is not the first time in his career (many times) he has lied. How many chances does he get and still gets to be the Sheriff?
In essence this new article once again points out that Bill Elder, the Sheriff of El Paso County, has committed the crime of perjury. So this means Elder has committed more crimes than Maketa, Presley, and San Agustin combined. Now we all know why Todd Evans and Bob McDonald ran off to Fountain, and should anyone be surprised that that lying rat Joe Breister is throwing people under the bus?
I read the article about the CC Benefiel’s homicide. I was wondering if this case would ever come up again. While her estranged husband was always a suspect, there were also so many strong suspects within EPSO as well. I noted the comments about Elder fighting with his wife right after the murder. Now it all makes sense.
Elder had an “Employee Meeting” with line personnel recently. During the meeting, he became enraged and threatened employees that they needed to leave his wife out of it and that if he found out who was providing information to this website, he’d meet them outside with knives or guns or whatever. Wish someone had a recording of it. I guess “so much” for his claim that he doesn’t pay attention to, or read, this website, and wasn’t trying to find out who was behind it?
Elder and Gary Brown. There was always some suspicion that Liz Brown, the wife of Gary Brown at the time, was a good suspect with a motive of eliminating her husband’s paramour. Remember the comments about it possibly being a female suspect, using a .22 firearm.
Perhaps we will never know, but the stench of impropriety just won’t go away, with Elder in Office and still “playing games.”
There was talk weeks ago about bringing warning shots back to our agency. Maybe they will hurry and write that into policy and back-date it. You know, like how they mysteriously got rid of the DAB when that same LT had a pending case?
Just looked at this website for the first time. Amazing. I keep expecting Froto, Bilbo and the evil Gollum to show up there’s so much fantasy being spouted. What garbage the article is regarding Elder’s IA file that is being put out today under the cowardly “you can believe or not”, but we in our Ivory Tower are going to stick it out there anyway. Wait a minute, I just heard that Donald Trump, Jr. had a meeting there with the Russians in 2013 and HE stole the file. Case solved.
Oh Gandalf, what an imagination! It’s already been proven that Elder had an IA file. You might want to return to placing your attention back into the fairytale books that you appear to be enamored with.
I think your hyperbole regarding characters from Lord of the Rings might just fit Sheriff Bill Elder and his command staff, especially Briester and Shannon. Oh, and I don’t want to forget Cliff Porter AKA “PTSD Boy”.
Wait…so Elder announced he will get rid of patrol if 1A doesn’t pass with the voters? Where did he say that? Are there witnesses? Isn’t that extortion? That man is a loose canon! And Kirby (she needs to lay off the steroids) actually admitted that the 1A funds are a lost cause? How long does Elder think he can keep up this charade? He’s messing with the safety of the community now; when will someone stop this lunatic?
It isn’t that 1A funds are a lost cause per se. There were valid reasons for that funding, but now under Elder’s Administration, the 1A funds are being misappropriated, used in ways that explicitly violate the ballot language and are “managed” by idiots! The money and purpose of those funds have been lost thanks to Bill Elder and his cast of clowns. They have ruined this Office. They need to go and now!
Your story on Chuck Kull’ s lying testimony was spot on!
His attorney SHIMON KOHN is a schmuck! !!
The El Paso County Commissioners are a joke. Citizens have lost approximately 120 K because the commissioners didn’t investigate Kulls and Gerhart’s stories; they just paid out the money. Hey it’s not their money so why should they care! ! I always thought that they had a feduciary responsibility to our citizens, but evidently they don’t see it that way. There’s no accountability when the recipients are sworn to secrecy and the record’s sealed.
Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic, shame on each and every one of you! !!!!!!!
Oh, and, if you notice, he not only used one Sheriff’s Office number on his re-election affidavit, but he used a second one too. The 719-520-7686 number listed under the Candidate Committee Information section listed as the contact number for Re-Elect Sheriff Bill Elder is also registered to the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office. So, did the Sheriff’s Office become his personal call center for his re-election?
Not surprised that more evidence surfaces that Bill Elder is a lying piece of shiX and he continues to use government resources for his own personal gain! This guy belongs in an orange jumpsuit!
Concerning today’s article, I think Jackie needs her mouth washed out with soap. How do you put a face on all the corruption Bill Elder is involved with both by commission and omission!
I know that we have to have at least one great leader in the Office who can run and beat Elder.
Take no prisoners! !!!
Please let Bill Elder know that I am willing to donate $5,000 toward his re-election campaign if he promises me a $90,000 a year job on his staff! Can’t do any worse than his current staff of incompetent members!
This letter was sent to us via our email and we thought we would publish it in our BLOG area. It does raise some interesting questions. Why did Wendy Harbert get a payout when she doesn’t work for the EPSO?
I have been perplexed with all the payouts that the El Paso County has been paying out.
Something I was pondering for awhile since I read about Wendy Haber’s lawsuit settlement by El Paso County. I cannot understand just how Wendy Habert was eligible to be paid by the County, $55,000.00 to her and $30,000 to her attorney when she was not a City or County employee.
Wendy Habert worked for Contractor that provided Health Care Services at El Paso County Sheriff’s Office, Criminal Justice Center, under a contract issued for El Paso County Sheriff’s Office.
As I understand it, the contract for providing health services to all inmates, and includes standard contract terms, which protect the City/County. The contract terms include:
(1) Independent Contractor.
(a) this clarifies that the contractor and the contractor employees, agents, servants and other personnel are NOT City/County Employees.
(b) The contract terms also clearly states that the contractor nor contractor employees, agents, servants and other personnel shall not be entitled to any City payroll, insurance, unemployment, worker’s compensation, retirement or any other benefits whatsoever. If Wendy Habert had a grievance, or claims it should have been against her employer, it was the Contractor (her employer) who made the decision to fire her.
(2) Indemnification. This contract term requires the contractor to indemnify and hold harmless the City/County against all damages, claims or liabilities and expenses (including attorney’s fee) arising out of or resulting in any way, form or any acts or omissions of the seller (contractor) its agents, employees or subcontractors.
(a) If Wendy Habert filed a lawsuit for alleged wrong doing that happened while she was employed by the contractor, why didn’t the contractor meet the terms of his contract and indemnify the City/County.
(b) Secondly why did the County pay Wendy Habert and her lawyer when the Contract terms clearly states that Contractor employees are not entitled to any City/Benefits whatsoever.
I am not a lawyer and am not familiar with the El Paso’s acquisition process, but I was able to find the standard terms included in their contracts. Something does not add up, it smells to high heaven. I wonder what was Wendy Habert really paid for under the guise of a lawsuit. Was it for managing Sheriff Elders campaign, or to lie for them.
Looks like there is a lot of Tax payers money is being spend on questionable settlements
Screen Name: Still Perplexed (via email)
I am still perplexed about all the payouts that the El Paso County Commissioners have paid out to Elder’s campaign supporters and contributors.
These two do not equate.
According to El Paso County Commissioners, Settlement of Lawsuits filed by Kull and Gerhart was due to Loss of income and benefits and to adverse employment.
Deputy Charles Kull received $120,000.00 and Deputy Emory Gerhart received close to $88,000.00
Based on testimony during the trial, it was clear that both Kull and Gerhart quit their jobs when they were told that they would be asked questions on the IA missing Elder file. Was this the adverse employment? With what came out during their testimony at Maketa’s trial, their work environment did not sound too adverse to me! My impression of their testimony, is they sounded like they created the disruptions within their department.
The thing that I find interesting is that years ago, Elder and an implicated sergeant both quit their jobs from the El Paso Sheriffs Office, under their own volitions around the time Elder had an IA investigation going on. I guess Elder did not like to answer questions either. I wonder, Did Elder mentor Kull and Gerhart about quitting during the investigation of Elder’s missing file?
When people quit their job is it standard practice in private industry that the employer owe their x-employees, who quit their job, payment of loss income and benefits!!! Private industry does not reward ex-employees even if they hire them back. But I regress, here we are talking about tax payers money. No money out of the commissioners own pockets.
After Charles Kull quit their jobs at the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office, he went to work at Fountain and earned income and benefits from his job. (So much for lost income and benefits.) Kull gets hired back by El Paso County Sheriff’s Office, (Elder) and gets paid $120,000.00 by the El Paso Commissioners! Sounds like fraud, waste and abuse to me.
Gerhart gets rehired too, and gets $88,000.00 settlement, quite questionable too. He quit so he would not have to answer and question regarding the mission IA investigation file.
They both quit their jobs, voluntarily, rather than discuss the results of the given test in which the computer measures the tone of a person’s voice in effort to verify the truthfulness of their statements. The fact that they both quite their jobs, tells me that Kull and Gerhart knew and still know a lot about the missing file and did not want to talk. An old Elder move.
You would think that stealing files from the Internal Affairs Department would be a serious crime. My guess is that no-one is looking for who stole the file. My understanding is the Elder said does not like to waste time on cold cases.
With a better understanding of why Kull and Gerhart quite, I beleive that the Commissioners have a responsibility to get the money back from these two deputies, and return it to the tax payers. Maybe the tax payers should demand that an independent investigation (by person(s) that would not be biased and not have a conflict of interest in the outcome) to validate just what these commissioners were really paying for with tax payers money to these two deputies and others. Talk about the appearance of corruption, and the depth of the conspiracy against three (3) innocent people that did their jobs. Makes me wonder if any of the commissioners have the integrity and honesty the people would expect from their elected officials.
All of these facts and/or accusations mean nothing if no one else runs for office. This will be such an easy victory for ANY other person that runs for office. I’m almost tempted. Then again, the headaches that will come with it due to all of the problems that will arise due to the current incompetent administration. Only time will tell. By the way 1A money will be gone soon. Something to think about for current employees. Layoffs? I think so.
Interesting “1A” money comment, Holy Caca. Did anyone (or everyone) else notice the beginning of their 1A campaign yesterday? Suddenly the jail is at “maximum” capacity and, according to Lincoln, more “resources” and improved “administration” is going to be required in order to alleviate these issues facing the “growing population” of El Paso County. Please….”resources” is just another name for tax-payer $$$$….and “administration” is just one more shot @ Maketa et al. The facts are that the EPSO has squandered 1A money on unnecessary personnel and equipment. It”s as simple as that…and the entire county knows it.
And just a couple of more things to consider for the current employees of the EPSO:
1) Always remember…last in, first out.
2) Think twice about spending that 2018 Uniform Allowance too quickly.
Please be sure to thank your chain of command for all they’ve done for you…they’ll be here all week…and at least through Dec ’18.
improved administration is needed? Try a NEW Sheriff is what’s needed! Elder is worthless and ineffective as are his buddies in his administration. Taxpayers and media should DEMAND immediate reports of ALL monies collected and spent since 2015.
Well FINALLY someone has stepped in with some very good and useful credentials. Mike Angley looks like he’s going to challenge this incompetent administration. Mr.Angley, you will have no problem getting in. The question is will you do things differently and do the right thing? Hopefully because you will be in office and running what used to be an admirable and well respected organization. Most of the employees will vote against Elder and the Huffors. These same employees will influence their friends and family to vote a certain way that would benefit you. Quite sure we’ll be meeting because I/we have quite a bit of useful information for you, Sir.
Let’s wait and see what Mike Angley has to offer to the people of this county–no more false promises-no more corruption-no more Huffor’s–no more Elder! If Mike is the right candidate I may donate my $5000.00 to his campaign!
Mike’s bio is outstanding and his leadership qualities is what the EPSO needs!
Dear Sheriff Elder –
If you think the “leaks” are bad now, just imagine if you had an intelligent, competent, and qualified opponent (Oh wait…what’s this? Mike Angley?? Well that’s certainly interesting). That sound you’ll soon be hearing will be the pitter patter of little feet scurrying off your sinking ship. Do you really want to campaign on all of your accomplishments since taking office? Really?? If so, I’ve taken a moment to jot down a few of your most stellar accomplishments as a reminder:
Oh, hell…who are we fooling? I’ve got nothing.
What bothers me about this site is that facts are stated in the form of a question. I assume that is done in order to be thought provoking, however, there is no question. The facts are reality. Sheriff Elder is a liar that is ok with destroying careers and reputations. Not only does he carelessly ruin people’s careers, he cares not what that has done to the persons family, including spouses, children, siblings and even elderly parents. When you blatantly lie to protect nothing but your own income, image, and pride, you severely damage your victims. Victims being the INNOCENT people that Sheriff Elder, the Sheriff Department’s “legal advisor” Lisa Kirkman, El Paso County District Attorneys, Dan May in particular, ADA Mark Hurlbert have falsely prosecuted and continue to try to prosecute.
How frightening for an average citizen to know that in El Paso County Colorado, if the Sheriff and/or the District Attorneys office simply DOES NOT LIKE you, they together will financially and emotionally ruin you and your family with their ultimate goal being PRISON for their victims. Reminiscent of the Salem Witch Trials.
I do believe that Karma, and better yet, the Good Lord will deliver the ultimate judgement.
But in that coming day, no weapon turned against you will succeed. And everyone who tells lies in court will be brought to JUSTICE.
The Sheriff and the DA’s will be held trial in a much higher, eternal court than that that they drag their victims through here on earth.
How many out there caught Wedenesday’s Gazette article on EPSO employee (and Jackie Kirby son) Ben Corriea? Just a few short months ago Kirby lost her mind when her little boy was mentioned on this website…now he is front-page news…and obviously a “plant” being used create an aura of humanity for the Office. Once again, the Gazette is doing Elder’s bidding. They should truly be ashamed for agreeing to print such an obvious piece of campaign garbage.
I am not a lawyer, and have no real experience in trials, etc. But I cannot understand how Dan May and Mark Hurlbert continue to go after John San Augustine for kidnapping, when they dropped charges on Maketa and Presley. A female detective arrested Trull; why isn’t she on trial? And I hear she made the arrest because of direction from Shannon Gearhart. Why isn’t Gearhart on trial. Better yet, how was she selected to become a judge if the arrest was a bad one?
I agree with Francis. If you piss off certain people in El Paso County, they will come after you. And they use taxpayer dollars to do it.
Citizen, you are absolutely right. This is nothing short of a witch hunt. Maketa pissed off the wrong people and San Agustin knew Maketa didn’t do what he’s accused of and he refused to play their little game. So they charged him too! Now, they don’t know how to get out of any of it without admitting they falsely charged all 3 of them, so they just keep their charade going. Aren’t the same witnesses who already lied on the stand going to have to testify again at the other trials? How on earth will they keep their stories straight? It will be entertaining to watch, that’s for sure. Plus, Judge Shannan Gerhart will have to testify at some point. Awkward….
Ralph, With Maketa, they dropped the kidnapping charges two weeks before trial, after they found “new evidence”. Never mind that the new evidence was discovered nearly a year after arresting Maketa.
So I’m guessing they’ll find more “new evidence”, nearly a year after charging San Augustin, and based on the new evidence, drop the charges on John about two weeks before the trial is scheduled to begin.
That way, no one has to testify. That is, Shannon Gerhart can keep her cozy judge job and not have to testify. Dan May won’t have to make any public statements. Mark Hurlbert gets to go home to Denver.
So all the “good guys” in this–May, Elder, Gerhart, Hurlbert, and all of their cronies–get to go on with life like nothing happened. Same for all those who lied at Maketa’s trial.
And all the “bad guys” in this–especially San Augustin who has a year’s worth of legal costs–have their reputations ruined and can never work in law enforcement again. Lesson to all of us? Don’t piss off the “good guys” who run the Republican Party in El Paso County.
Here’s a question, though. There was a guy in Maketa’s trial named Gerhart who was fired for something under Maketa, got a bunch of money from the county as compensation, and was re-hired by Elder. He then testified against Maketa (the guy who fired him). If I remember correctly, Gerhart has some sort of bad relationship with the Brady list.
Now, this guy Gerhart and the Shannon Gerhart who charged San Augustin, are they related? As in, married? So they target San Augustin; in return, he gets money, she gets a promotion from ADA to being a judge? And San Augustin is left to twist in the wind?
Seriously, are El Paso County Republicans corrupt, or what?
Just to be clear, Shannon Gerhart (who is the wife of Ray Gerhart) did not charge San Agustin. She was involved with the original arrest back in sept of 2013 of an individual who Mark Hurlbert says was illegally arrested. Shannon Gerhart, who was a deputy district attorney at the time, told investigators there was probable cause to make the arrest, however, somehow Hurlbert justifies charging John San Agustin with kidnapping. The evidence of corruption and that this is all political is the fact that the five who were present when the decision was made to arrest were not charged, but the one person not present was charged. Can’t wait for the trial. The truth is coming….
Citizen, you bring up good points. One clarification; Gerhart, the deputy, wasn’t fired by Maketa. He failed a polygraph test and when he was told they wanted to question him more, he resigned on the spot. Maketa had nothing to do with it. Gerhart freaked about having to answer more questions and quit.
Also, something else to chew on; who else finds it odd that these charges all came over 2 years after Presley, Maketa and San Agustin left their jobs? How crazy is that! Witch-hunt?
They couldn’t keep their stories straight! This new trial proved that! Several who testified stuck their foot in their mouths. Lies lies and more lies. It’s all on the court records now.
Did I just click on the Elder4Sheriff.com link and come back to this site? Hilarious.
Sad. I just read the latest news. Very sad. Why is it that Maketa could manage the budget just fine, but every time Elder turns around, something else is jacked up with the 1A money? What the heck is that guy doing with those funds? If the media would pull their heads out of Elder’s backside and quit taking everything he says as gold, maybe they would get the information needed and actually inform the public what he’s doing! It’s illegal! And newsflash: the Commissioners and County budget officials are allowing it! They are just as guilty. Deputies, you should all be furious…not only are these your taxpayer dollars that are being misused, but your future employment is in jeopardy! Maybe it’s time to contact the new guy, Mike Angley, and see what his plans are for YOUR FUTURE.
Everyone, go to Angley’s website! And check it daily; the guy keeps adding new endorsements and valuable information you won’t want to miss. Today he talks of Elder’s 2017 “budget presentation”; and brings up what we all know from his last 2 presentations-that there’s not even one $ in the entire presentation! Maketa always had a very thorough, detailed budget presentation and provided it on his website. Elder’s budget it a joke, just like his administration.
All of this is futile; the media literally does not care about this website, does not care about Angley, and Elder will be reelected. That’s how it goes in El Paso County. The ONLY way Angley or anyone else is elected is if BOTH employees publicly organize and campaign against elder AND if the media seriously investigates and reports on this regime and promotes Angley. If those two things don’t happen, it will be Elder again. And we all know neither of those things will happen. So get on with your lives and plan for the future.
We don’t need to media to tell us what to think or what to do….that’s why President Trump was elected. People are tired of the BS at the Federal level and at the local level. Change is coming and I think Elder will be tossed out as he should be. Elder has shown who he really is by his actions (or lack of) and I’m betting that El Paso County voters will want someone who is competent with their tax money and someone who will hire the best person for a job (and a job that’s actually contributing to the organization, not one created for his friend) – not his friends and campaign supporters who are looking for “payback”. Mike Angley for Sheriff
Wow. I just read today’s article about Dan May and Elder covering up on Tom Clements’ murder.
Sounds like just about everyone at the Sheriff’s office is spilling their guts. They must really hate Elder. It must be really hard to work there, knowing he covers up on crimes against one of their own.
And I thought it was bad that he asked the County Commissioners to payoff Gearhart without due process.
I hope something happens so Clements’ family gets some justice.
Again, unless mainstream media runs with an anti-Elder agenda, the masses who choose to be uninformed will just vote him back in to office. That’s how it goes. Angley will need very public support from both the media and sitting county commissioners to win. Neither of those things will happen.
Are you willing to step up and give public support? If you’re a current employee of EPSO, you are protected as long as it’s done during your time off…If you’re ready to see some real change, effective leadership, honest handling of taxpayer money and a boost in moral, then please contact Angley and find out how you can best help to get him elected as the next Sheriff. Be the voice for those that are afraid to speak up.
That’s great news! I hope all the visitors this weekend are new viewers so more people are learning about all the corruption. Just for s$#%s and giggles, you should check out the Sheriff Elder Facebook page. He posted a new picture on July 4, 2016 then NOTHING until June 3, 2017! Now all the sudden he cares about posting updates and telling everyone how much he cares for the community and employees. Nothing for a year…but now that he has an opponent, it’s so important to make daily posts! Toooo funny. Also, there’s no re-elect Elder Facebook page. He must be afraid people will post the link to this website. Keep it up, Dirtyelder.com. You’re making a difference and people are listening.
It was with tremendous bemusement that I recently took a peek at our Sheriff’s “re-election” website and read his endorsements, especially those taken below from the five members of our current Board of County Commissioners:
EL PASO COUNTY COMMISSIONER PEGGY LITTLETON –
“When our community finds the need to be ready, I am comforted knowing that Bill Elder is our Sheriff”
EL PASO COUNTY COMMISSIONER LONGINOS GONZALEZ –
“he’s spearheaded reform in the Sheriff’s Office”
EL PASO COUNTY COMMISSIONER STAN VANDERWERF –
“He has created a calming influence in the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office” and (an) establishment of a higher ethical standard, Sheriff Elder has removed the controversy of years past”
EL PASO COUNTY COMMISSIONER DARRYL GLENN –
“I appreciate what he and his staff do that does not get reported out in community on strengthening and developing positive and lasting relationships”
EL PASO COUNTY COMMISSIONER MARK WALLER –
“Sheriff Elder was leading the fight in Denver to pass legislation giving cops the tools they need to make our community a better place to live and raise kids. We need real leadership and experience, and that’s why I’m supporting Sheriff Elder in his bid for re-election”
“Reform?” “Calming Influence?” “Higher Ethical Standard?” Removed the Controversy?” “Real Leadership?” Just what color is the sky in their little GOP world? Do they truly not understand the magnitude of the train-wreck at 27 East Vermijo…or do they just choose to continue on with their heads in the sand?? Interesting that they don’t mention the growing number of lawsuits and fiscal improprieties. And it seems a little premature that they would hitch their wagons to Elder’s star prior to any real campaign. The allegations of corruption will continue…I have no doubt. And when those allegations turn criminal, these five “county leaders” will be stepping all over each other in order to avoid their own professional train-wrecks.
The County Commissioners, and Bill Elder, are copying the Democratic National Committee (Debbie Wasserman-Schultz) and Hillary Clinton.
Washerman-Schultz and the DNC had all the Super Delegates declare their votes for HRC well before any of the state primaries; this preloaded a victory for HRC. They did this before any of the Democratic Candidate debates; that is, before any of them could objectively listen to different viewpoints. (not that it would have mattered, as Donna Brazile relayed the questions to HRC prior to any of the Democratic Primary debates). It was obvious then, and has since been admitted to, that the DNC primary was rigged in favor of HRC.
As everyone knows and admits, HRC was “The Chosen One” for the Democratic Party.
And here we go again. Following the example of Wasserman-Schultz and Brazile, the five County Commissioners are attempting to preload the Republican Caucus so that “The Chosen One”, in this case Bill Elder, wins the Caucus. In other words, so that the five of them can choose the next Sheriff.
The Five County Commissioners–Littleton, Gonzales, Vanderwerf, Glenn, and Waller–are no different from Wasserman-Schultz or Brazile. They thwart a real electoral process.
I wonder who within the Republican Party in El Paso County will provide debate questions to Elder prior to any debate?
If re-elected, what will Elder do for each of them in return for their DNC-like favoritism?
First off; Bill Elder is way too much of a chicken to debate anyone. He knows there is way too much “Dirty Laundry” for him to debate. We predict he will REFUSE all offers to debate. He made way too many unfulfilled promises in the last election. He knows it would be a target rich environment. How would he explain all the waste and abuse? All the missing 1A funds? All the sexual harassment cases? The hostile work environment?
But he’s just so great under pressure. Who can ever forget his sterling performance while being questioned by FOX 21’s Joe Cole regarding the Black Forest fire last year? It was truly a moment to remember. And lest we forget his amazing presence during the Planned Parenthood shooting (Thank you, Ms. Littleton for reminding us of the “comfort” Sheriff Elder provided us on that terrible day). He was so eloquent it was almost like he wasn’t there. Oh yeah…he wasn’t.
Debate is one thing. The corruption involving the five sitting County Commissioners is something else.
I know this site is supposed to only be about Elder, and I think the site manager is doing a great service to the county.
But someone in the media has to investigate the County Commissioners. Why are they behaving like the DNC Super delegates? Why are they picking the next sheriff more than a year before the election? What dirt does he have on them? Or is it the entire Republican Party in El Paso County? Are they rigging the election?
I’d bet that every Republican in the County, probably the State, condemned the DNC for the crooked, rigged Democratic Primary. But here they are, a year and a half later, doing the exact same thing themselves, and all wrapped up in their self-righteous blanket of morality.
Where is the Gazette? Where are the local TV stations? Why isn’t anyone challenging this?
The difference between the Five County Commissioners and Wassermanschultz? Nothing. The difference between the local media and MSNBC? Nothing.
There are far more dirty politics than people realize. Why did the County Attorney not fight the lawsuits against Maketa more? She didn’t want them to ever go to trial. Why not? Because she knew that, in a trial, it would come out that she, too, spent time between the sheets with Maketa.
Thank you, “Citizen” for the insight – and at least we all know just how that worked out so well for HRC. Once again (for the umpteenth time), when given the opportunity to do the right thing…Elder (and company) choose the wrong approach. Karma’s a bitch, Sheriff. And it’s looking for you.
In light of the fact that it’s now been brought to everyone’s attention that Elder, the commissioners and the local GOP are tightly intertwined, I really do hope Mr. Angley and any other possible opponents will go the petition route. The GOP can’t be trusted any more than Elder can.
I would like to point out a fact that most people may have overlooked; Bill Elder was not elected Sheriff of El Paso County by the citizens; rather he was selected by the Republican delegates at the caucus 9 months before the general election. Elder had been working for nearly two years prior to the caucus garnering support from the party so that he won the majority of votes from the delegates at the county caucus. Since no other candidate had at least 30 percent of the delegates’ vote, he was the only one on the ballot. The Democrats did not field any opposition, so in essence he was appointed the Sheriff by the Republican party, not the voters.
The Republican Party hasn’t always stood so strong with the incumbents….back in the early 90’s, the party chose not to support the incumbent Sheriff (Bernie Barry); there were a total of 5 candidates for Sheriff. Three candidates were Republican, one was a Democrat (really a DINO as he had assisted a prior Sheriff’s candidate’s campaign against Barry in 1990) and one independent. Sheriff Barry did not get on the ballot at the caucus and attempted to get enough signatures to get on the ballot, but failed. John Anderson won out and was actually elected Sheriff.
This election cycle, please consider becoming a delegate with your local precinct. You can influence who gets on the ballot and give other candidates a chance.
New from Elder’s website over the weekend – written endorsements/testimonials from noted IA customers the Huffors (“Bill Elder is a God fearing, hard working, and loyal servant leader who we have had the pleasure to serve with” – well crafted, Janet) and Rob King (“He is a good and decent man who understands and promotes leadership qualities and empowers his staff to make decisions” – I wonder if “promotes leadership qualities” = campaign donations). And what…was Harvey Weinstein not available to lend his support for Elder as well??
Congratulations, Commander…and we’re so sorry that you had to endure this nonsense. One question, though…can any current EPSO employees confirm or deny that the Office has internally emailed the information regarding the dismissal of your charges just like they emailed your mugshot in 2016? I didn’t think so.
Incredible. Just like predicted, DA Hurlbert “found” some “new evidence”, after more than a year, and has dropped the case on San Augustin. How is it any different from the “new evidence” he suddenly found just before Maketa’s trial, when he dropped the same charges against Maketa?
But he hasn’t dropped the kidnapping charges against Paula Presley. I guess he’s going to wait until just before her trial to “find new evidence”? Why doesn’t he drop those charges now? No evidence of kidnapping against Maketa, and none against San Augustin. Hurlbert abused his power to ruin San Augustin’s career and reputation. He continues to abuse his power to slander Presley’s.
Hurlbert is an abuser. He abuses his office to go after people that Dan May doesn’t like. Speaking of Dan May, why doesn’t he do his own dirty work? Why does he have Hurlbert come down from Denver and do it for him? And why does Hurlbert stoop so low as to do his dirty work?
What a wonderful day yesterday was for those seeking justice! We could not be happier for John San Agustin, his family and friends!
People of El Paso county, please remember there are others (at least one) who the DA Dan May, and Sheriff Bill Elder are still trying to prosecute during this witch hunt.
If you will go to the Fox 21 website you will find the actual Motion to Dismiss filed by Mark Hurlbert. In the motion you will read that, “As with any case, over time evidence can change for better or worse. In this case, evidence changed entirely for the worse making it impossible for the People to prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt.” THERE NEVER WAS EVIDENCE! How can NO evidence change for the worse? Over time? Do the voters of El Paso County know how that translates? Let me help…….Bill Elder and Dan May could not lie enough to get reasonable people to believe it! Do voters know why it takes so long? Because May and Elder know that every passing day hurts their VICTIMS financially and emotionally! Not to mention the reputations of the people they lie about.
One day, real (actual) evidence will be made public, in EVERY false charge May and Elder have created.
Voters, please put yourself in the position of the people May and Elder have, and continue to, victimize. Imagine telling your family you are being arrested. Imagine the panic and fear that would spread throughout your home. Imagine how you will be able to try to keep your home, feed your family, provide healthcare to your children. Imagine that everything you have worked for and believed in was taken from you based entirely on lies! Law enforcement takes a special breed of individual. One that risks their very lives to help serve and protect those who can not protect themselves. Imagine that this has been your dream since you were a child, then to have the very agency you work for do their best to distroy you and your family for nothing but political gain?
People of El Paso County, please do your research. Ask your questions. Understand the political connections. Research who vacations together, who is married to whom, what hand feeds what mouth.
Dan May’s and Bill Elders prosecution attempts, knowing the truth, and knowing who the true victims are, is purely political.
Please do not re-elect this corruption. Remember voters, you pay the salaries of these liars, and you pay for the FALSE PROSECUTION ATTEMPTS against their innocent victims. That money is NOT going to your child’s college fund or your parents senior living community. Every fancy suit these liars put on, YOU PAID FOR!
While you are thinking about how corrupt Elder is, also remember that the individual El Paso County Commissioners have endorsed Elder for reelection.
That is, they are supportive of the abuse of power that is taking place. It’s well past time to sweep them all out of office.
I’m hopeful that this website has been shared with Brauchler’s opponents. I’m sure they would be very pleased to be armed with these FACTS about their political opponent. Not only did he and his office maliciously prosecute 3 individuals, but then they kept charges pending on San Agustin and Presley for months, after dismissing the exact same charges against Maketa just days before his trial. Finally, they admit to their “lack of evidence” and dismiss San Agustin’s case, once again, days before his trial; yet Presley’s charges remain. As if that isn’t enough, Brauchler & CO are going to trial yet again on Maketa for no reason other than to seek revenge. All at the cost of the taxpayers. Then, they will wait till days before Presley’s trial and then drop her charges. (For “lack of evidence”). The government has deep pockets and Brauchler isn’t shy about wasting our taxpayer dollars so that he can ruin the lives of innocent people. Somebody should request the phone records and emails of Brauchler, Hurlbert, May and Elder. Brauchler would be shaking in his gubernatorial boots. Is this the type of person we want leading our state?
Before and after shots of Bill Elder still show a fat, old and ugly idiot with a very bad receding hairline! Either way, this piece of shiX DOES NOT look good in uniform nor does he even belong in uniform. He is a disgrace!
It is so very sad all the lives that have been destroyed as a result of his corruption.
ANGLEY FOR SHERIFF!
What people need to realize is that there is a huge “Part 2” to this. This site is all about Elder. But those on the inside know that Elder is not the one calling a lot of the shots at EPSO, and Elder is not the one spreading all of the corruption either. Joe Breister is nearly one-and-the-same as Elder. He’s just as dirty and is trying to stay below the radar so that, if Elder doesn’t run again, he can step forward and run for Sheriff.
Bill Elder believes he is a “Pathfinder”; he used the same word to describe his supporters that worked at the SO under Maketa who fed him information. The term is insulting to those that served as Pathfinders. The proper terms for those who provided information to him should be “spies”, “snitches” or even “informant”…but those don’t sound sexy or honorable. I think he believes he is carrying the torch to illuminate the darkness cast upon the office by Maketa chasing out the evil spirits of the previous regime. Perhaps the evil spirits are more powerful than originally thought as it appears that they have possessed the mighty paladin Elder and corrupted him as he is using the same play book as Maketa. The members of the Sheriff’s Office deserve better than the current administration.
Elder is wearing a US Army badge, and he never served in the Army?
Uh, that is sick. What sort of man has a self-image so low as to pretend to be something he is not, and to pretend so publicly? What sort of Sheriff puts US Army badges on the uniform of the El Paso County Sheriff’s office?
I know USAF officers who were courtmartialed for wearing medals they had not earned or been awarded.
It is sickening to see Elder wear this badge, falsely proclaiming a qualification, and doing it so publicly. What other “qualifications” is he telling lies about?
Where is Darrell Glenn? You know, the County Commissioner who is always talking up his honesty, integrity, and military background. Why is Glenn claiming such honorable qualifications on the one hand, while on the other endorsing such fake and liar for Sheriff ? What a fake Glenn is.
Is all of El Paso County government corrupt?
As I am sure you will all concur … Elder, Borland, Huffor and Kirby will all look FABULOUS in orange jumpsuits!
Right at home with all the other felons!
They are a disgrace!!!
I do not concur. Kirby has never looked fabulous!
Yeah, you’re right. She has always struck me as a very odd ugly version of a Neanderthal. Her buddy Janet Huffor is really no better.
… wish they both would become extinct.
Can someone please explain why Deitz and Mejia had to be “escorted” to HR to get their personal belongings when the County took over the EPSO HR department? Were the higher-ups (Elder, Borland, Breister, Huffor, Kirby) afraid they would take something with them that could be used against the Elder Administration? I mean, these two guys had access to all types of information that Elder would want to keep out of the “wrong hands”. Why all of the sudden do they need to be “escorted”? Sorry, but that just doesn’t add up.
Too many incriminating documents they could have taken with them. Which deputies were “1A” deputies? Did you know that changed a number of times? They are identified by name. But those names have been swapped around. One day you might have been a 1A deputy, and at risk of losing your job if 1A doesn’t get renewed, and the next day that designation could be next to someone else’s name. I’ve seen the lists. Lots of sneaky stuff like that going on.
Bill Elder says in his statement “There is no requirement for these cards to be notarized” then why did you put 1016 people through this nut roll?
If there was no deadline, why did Borland and Huffor commit a felony to get them done so quickly?
Don’t fall for Bill Elders shinny object trick, the turd in in his pocket
And another thing….Kirby said they decline to comment. Why? Why? Why wouldn’t Elder & CO not want to set the record straight if they didn’t do anything wrong? Why on earth would they stay quiet and not comment? Because they are a bunch of lying, corrrupt bast@$#s! That train is getting louder and louder!!
So let me get this straight. We’ve gone from –
1) Nothing to see here, to
2) It was all HR’s fault, to
3) The unfortunate passing (due to cancer) of an EPSO employee, to
4) J. Huffor was aware all along, to
5) Kirby actually notarized Maketa’s commissions, to
5) We’re still notarizing and recording these documents (at least until the current supply is exhausted) – Even though it’s not required.
Wait. Let me guess what’s next:
6) Check is in the mail?
7) The dog ate my homework?
Oh sure, it’s what happens when you’re guilty and have something to hide. The stories just don’t add up!
When a person becomes fidgety, they become defensive, they have trouble keeping their stories straight, they fumble, they blame, they divert attention away from the real reason, they start becoming “too talkative” (if you know what I mean); these are all classic examples of what people do when they have something to hide. We all know, Elder has a lot to hide. That closet of skeletons can only hold so much, and that door is starting to opening ….
Elder thinks he is so smart, be he is highlighting his own stupidity and I think its hilarious!
Seriously???, you nailed it! When one cannot keep their stories straight, they are simply exposing their own guilt. Never, ever, ever does the story remain the same with Elder and his posse. Look back at history since he took office…not once has he kept his story the same when questioned more than one time. Not once!
Elder and Kirby are the King and Queen of “no comment”, “we cannot comment at this time”, “this is an ongoing investigation, we cannot comment”, “we kindly decline to comment”. Don’t believe me? Go back and read the articles.
The proof is in the pudding. Angley (Elder’s VERY QUALIFIED opponent) recently said that Elder refused an invitation to debate him. The debate wouldn’t be until January or February, so it’s not like Elder can say he “already has plans that day”. He’s a corrupt chicken-shit who is scared out of his crazy ass mind. He had no problems debating his opponents during the first round. Now that he has a proven track record that he claims to be proud of, why would he choose not to debate? If you are proud of your accomplishments, and you’ve nothing to hide, then debate Angley! The train is coming…the Karma Train!
All this is interesting. But remember, all the County Commisioners have ALREADY endorsed Elder for re-election. That is more than a year in advance, and months before even the local Republican primaries.
This is EXACTLY the same as HILLARY CLINTON and the DNC.
El Paso Republicans are copying HRC’s example 100%, and the El Paso County Commissioners are part of it, trying to squeeze out any other candidates. Totally corrupt Republican Party. Totally corrupt County Commissioners.
Elder is simply their puppet.
Elder is playing right into his own demise; he is that stupid. Typically, a guilty person will do everything they can to hide their guilt and shame by blaming others, making excuses, repeating themselves, deflecting, denying and even becoming defensive and belligerent, which is exactly what Elder did on Wednesday with the media. He can’t help it; the house of cards is falling apart, and the lies and corruption are being exposed. This aXXhole needs to come clean and own up to his sins!
Thank you to all who are working and have worked to expose this POS and THANK YOU to DIRTYELDER.COM for all you have done. Too many lives and careers have been destroyed because of Elder’s corruption. It has to stop before too many more lives are destroyed.
Elders attack of the Indy, its editor and reporters is the typical response a narcissistic liar would give. Liars hate when the truth about them is exposed, and narcissist always blame others for their actions.
Interesting that Elder writes about his family. Well, if you’re a corrupt public official, the truth eventually will be made public. Elders cares about “his families safety” but does not give a damn about the people he continues to falsely prosecute. Guess what Elder, the people you are dragging through false prosecution, only to protect your image and cover your mistakes, have families too! One day, his wife, children, and grandchildren will see exactly what he did to his VICTIMS innocent wives/husbands, children and grandchildren. When every lie, false arrest, and attempt at false prosecution, along with PROOF is exposed, his family will know why so many people are trying to stop him.
It’s funny that he is so worried about what the small, local papers write, when national papers and news outlets are slowly circling this train wreck, waiting to make their move. Elder is a foolish man to think that he can keep his corruption contained to El Paso County. This whole mess that Elder created, and the harm he has caused multiple families, will make a great Dateline story. As of now, the only people able to speak are Dan May and Elder. Soon the innocent victims will have their voices heard.
INCOMPETANT, INCOMPETANT, INCOMPETANT!
Bill Elder is no better at lying than he is at anything else. He thought he could run the sheriff’s office after being an INCOMPETANT deputy.
Just because you rode in coach a dozen times doesn’t mean your qualified to fly the plane!
He’s nothing more than a MEDIOCRE REAL ESTATE BROKER.
He refers to “THE VILLAGE” on his re-elect me website. Well Bill, that sound you hear outside 27 East Vermijo is The Village. They’re gathering pitchforks and torches and, they’re coming for you!
Curiouser and curiouser (Alice in Wonderland).
It would appear that Elder is digging his hole deeper and deeper with each passing week. Now that he has lied about this notary business, and now that his immediate staff is obviously part of what appears to be a criminal act and coverup, how can Elder possibly survive this?
He can’t. How long before J Huffor and Jackie Kirby decide Elder is no longer worth going to jail over and try to protect themselves? (Hmmm, is it only women that Elder is putting in jeopardy?) How long before they turn on him?
So what will Elder’s puppet masters (i.e., the El Paso County Republican Party) do about this? Answer: Throw him under the bus. He is poisonous to local Republicans. Look to see the local Republicans discard Elder; he will resign before the Republicans meet next year to decide their candidate. He is lame duck.
As to his command staff, and other officers, you probably want to jump sooner than later. If I were you, I sure would not want to be the last one off this sinking ship. Better get your life jackets on now.
A recipe for financial disaster consists of a couple ingredients:
A greedy inept Bill Elder
An incompetent and way overpaid Command Staff
An unqualified Finance staff
And … total lack of transparency
And … the taxpayers get Screwed cleaning up the mess!!!
Elder would be amusing if the mud from his misdeeds didn’t get all over the rest of the honest folks down there. He seems so smug in his beliefs that he is above the law. But…. he forgets one thing. The people who helped him get where he is, his Command staff, helped him get there by turning on their former boss and airing all of his dirty laundry. Is Elder really so dumb as to think that those same turncoats won’t do the same to him if they think they will benefit from it? He also displays his lack of intelligence when he thinks that lying about this latest Notary flap will somehow not be detectable. He’s not only corrupt, he’s not smart enough to know how to stay corrupt and not get caught!
So very true, and the current command staff is as much of the cancer as the sheriff himself. The corrupt good ole’ boy system even extends to the civilians. Take Liz Omeal for instance, she was leaving the jail for two hour lunches with Chief Breister to push for a completely unneeded civilian supervisor position with pay of a Sergeant. Of course the “homie hook up” continues to this day for the select few in Inmate Classification. EPSO has been and still is a viper pit, hopefully this Mike Angley is serious about cleaning up the trash.
It gets better and better. So I clicked on that link you posted to see Elder’s contributors. I had to laugh. A lot. Doesn’t the candidate file that document him or herself? He put his own home address on it. Isn’t that what he was going off on the Independent about? But he files public documents himself with his home address on them. Crazy! A couple other laughable entries: the report lists Thomas DeLuca as working for School District 11 and Joseph Breister as being retired. Huh? Last I checked, they both are on Elder’s command staff. How does one make THAT mistake on a public, mandatory filing? One other entry on that form that is worth questioning. Is Leslie May District Attorney Dan May’s wife? Did the DA and his wife contribute to Elder’s campaign?
Stupid is as stupid does
…. and their stupidity is deep rooted; trust me.
Someone needs to get this information into the right hands. It is doubtful that anyone local will do anything about it. Who at the state level oversees these things? As a taxpayer, I want Elder and the county to answer for this misuse of my tax dollars. Who will hold them accountable? The right questions need to be asked, and when Elder’s people give their usual lip service, then the right documents need to be demanded. Don’t just take them for their word (they lie, FYI). Demand the documents. Demand them from the sheriff. Demand them from the county.
Deputies and all sheriff’s employees, it’s time to act! You’re going to lose your jobs! And soon! Who is more important…this corrupt administration or your family? Rally the troops and demand accountability! There are hundreds of you and only a handful of them. It’s your future, what are you going to do to protect it?
The one that holds them accountable is the voters of this county. By not supporting his re-election, you will stop what he and his regime are doing. He hasn’t violated a law per se (I am only speaking about the issues with the Public Safety Tax or PST, not any other issue that has been brought up…not enough room in this post for those here). He has failed to abide by a section of the county resolution that authorized the PST, specifically he has not provided annual reports and transparency. He has not followed the intent of the funds. Most likely he will spin a tale on how his new units and reallocation of personnel has improved and enhanced the safety of the county, thereby he is in compliance. Nothing has been mentioned of diverting the funds outside of the Sheriff’s Office or for personal use, so it would likely be difficult to prove a malfeasance of office. I would also imagine that there is nothing in the PST county resolution that allows for any penalty for failing to abide by the guidelines established by the PST, so by not following that he is only violating the public trust and not committing a criminal act. As long as he has the Republican Party to support him, he will be okay.
There are a couple options: 1. Contact the Colorado Attorney’s General Office; part of what they are tasked with is the investigation of public officials. If they chose to investigate the matter and found criminal violations, they would most likely be the agency to prosecute. 2. Become involved in the delegate process. One way that he can be stopped is if he has an opponent in the next election; when Elder ran for Sheriff, he was not truly elected by the citizens of El Paso County, but by the Republican delegates at the county convention. There were three Sheriff’s candidates, however, the other two were unable to get at least 30% of the delegates to vote for them, so Elder was the only Republican candidate on the ballot; with no Democratic candidate, he became the Sheriff almost by default. If you become a delegate, you can help get another candidate on the ballot and force Elder to explain himself to the public. If there isn’t another candidate, then the delegates will likely support Elder and he will continue another four years of antics.
I would also like to address your suggestion to the deputies and sheriff’s employees to “act”. While a nice idea, it is not really practical…the problem is not just Elder; it is his command staff as well. Colorado has a statute called “Pleasure of the Sheriff” an old holdover from back in our frontier days that allowed a Sheriff to stand up a posse to go after the bank robbers, cattle rustlers or whatever other scourge of the territory that needed to be dealt with and then he could dismiss them at will once the crisis was over. There is no protection for the deputies; they have no union and are not covered under civil service protection. In essence, you don’t please the Sheriff, you are gone. Dissention in the ranks is frowned upon which makes fighting from inside rather difficult.
I understand what you are saying, however, if the troops band together and demand accountability from their leaders, maybe their voices will be heard. I get that people are afraid. They have bills to pay and mouths to feed. My suggestion is for a group of them to come together and defend themselves. Meet with an attorney first and be ready to file a lawsuit if they are retaliated against. It’s a well known fact that the commissioners will pay them off if they do. So really, it’s a win/win situation.
Dirty Elder thank you for telling the truth about patrol manning- or there lack of.
Please don’t forget about the jail.
Moral is at an all time low and manning is at an all time low. As soon as the new academy was on the floors other deputies back filled other positions in other units and Bureaus. Keeping the staffing of wards at a dangerous level . There are times that wards are “doubled up” that means ONE deputy is watching 2 wards!!!
Either command staff has no clue of whats going on or they do not care. When was the last time you saw a member of command staff on the floors of CJC or walk into a ward?????
Quick. Someone get Elder a shovel.
Anyone know what happened with Angley’s interviews with the Independant and the Gazette? One would assume that those interviews would reveal more corruption. Maybe Elder, in his usual fashion, got them shut down.
This comment is to the dedicated men and women, sworn and civilian of the EPSO. You folks are the reason this office is operating even with morale at the lowest level ever, and with absent leaders.
Continue to be watchful of your brothers and sisters. Just know once there is a change in command, you will have the best available staff, leaders who support their troops from the front, not from an office, They will train their folks to excel and to mentor others to become the leaders of tomorrow.
It is sad the sheriff encourages employees to participate and support the candidate of their choice, as long as it is him and his agenda. I am hearing anyone who is backing the other candidate, Mike Angley is being watched and treated very differently by staff. This is wrong!
What is the sheriff afraid of will come out about him or his staff. Watch and listen, their is more information coming in about questionable behaviors that is being verified.
Stay strong folks, Karma is real.
And the Academy Award for Best Actor in an EPSO farewell video goes to…………..Chief Joe!
But then again, he’s been acting like an Undersheriff since 2015.
Wow brothers and sisters. Take the time to read the latest article on the Angley website. If you were not a supporter yet, you will be after seeing how the higher up’s are taking care of their own gain. They have failed in hiring practices, over payment to friends, and have done nothing to correct this issues when identified.
Is this the type of office you want to support. Do not compromise your values and integrity, you know who you are and why you took this job.
Read the article and make your own informed decision about who to support. Could this be the information that the DA can no longer ignore, or will another agency be coming in to verify this possible fraud and conspiracy. Just look in the mirror and ask yourself, what do you stand for? Are you part of the problem, or are you going to be part of the solution?
Wow. Kirby using CCIC to get info on friends? Enemies? Who was she checking up on? They are allowed to break the law and not get in trouble. This sounds like Hillary. Does Bill Elder have his own Email server? When is the media going to get on this and start reporting what is going on?
Jackie Kirby! Shame on you! Giving orders to do something illegal! Sounds a lot like Maketa or Presley ordering San Agustin to falsely arrest someone. Oh wait that NEVER happened and this actually did. Maybe you should have “ghosted” into CCIC then you wouldn’t have gotten caught. Karma is such a big ole Bitch.
Remember though, she (Kirby) and the others never ordered Rick Dietz or Dave Mejia to notorize those affidavits. Of course they wouldn’t….OH!….Oooops!
I think Borland needs to just quit at this point. All that noise he is hearing at night and following him is karma, and it’s getting closer and closer. Jacki, wow she has done is so wrong and there cannot be any good reason other than ego. She too has to be hearing voices close by, can you say you have the right to remain silent.
Word is there will be some major opening at the upper level, but this will just be filled by a continuation of cronyism. It will put the office in even worse moral danger than ever before.
To the dedicated people of the office hang in there, change will come and you can be a big part of it by participating in the process and become a delegate for the outsider, Mike Angley. Compare his record and make your own decision. Four more years of this B/S or seeing hope coming over the horizon.
Mike Angley is going to have a lot of replacing to do. Breister, Deluca, most commanders, chiefs, even some Lieutenants and Sergeants. I’m sure the public would also love to know why a civilian, Liz O’Neil, was given an unnecessary made up supervisory position and getting paid more than a sworn senior deputy. Why is it sworn deputies are being paid to do a civilian’s job like in accreditations or technical support. That’s mismanagement of money at its finest but you know….the homie hookup, screw everyone else right?
They even gave that arrogant Jackie Kirby a vehicle with emergency lights and siren. And I’ve seen her use them, despite having NO training in emergency vehicle operation and no justification for driving emergent. But, when you have enough “dirt” on the Sheriff that she does, she gets her way.
Hope Kirby is claiming that as income and Sheriff Elder is reporting that as additional income for her. IRS regulations require that non sworn employees issued a take home car are required to report it as a monetary benefit and earned income. The Sheriff is responsible for implementing a process for reporting the fringe benefit as income. Only sworn personnel with a first response expectation are exemp from the fringe benefit income of a take home car. Oops….maybe the next investigation against Kirby and Elder should be tax evasion. Probably ought to add Janet Huffor and Borland to that investigation.
I hear Elder is drinking heavy again. Some say he even shows up at work still hung over from the night before. Of course he usually shows up around 10. It’s interesting that Porter, Huffor, and the other usually suspects are keeping a low profile. They are all scared of what is going to be posted in the website next. Keep up the good work. When is the Huntz trial and what ever happened with Tim Williams, I hear he is filling a lawsuit as well. Any news about that?
When asked for suggestions on how best to “tackle mental illness, Commander Kramer should have suggested that Elder take a good, long look in the mirror.
It’s been said that Elder is questioning his staff to see who is loyal. They must all be lying to him. Seems things that only the staff should know about are getting out at an exceptionally fast rate. Yikes! Who should he trust?
Bwaa haa haa haa…… Hilarious! Who are his command staff? Several of them are the same turncoats who outed Maketa when they felt it would benefit them personally. And Elder brought them on thinking them would never do the same to him. What a poor poor ignorant man. Loyal to him? Yeah, sure buddy, you keep thinking your staff will be loyal to you and wait and see what happens!
Congratulations (once again) to our local media (i.e. The Gazette, KRDO, etc.) for attempting to bury over this weekend the continuous blunders being made by the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office.
1) $15k being paid to a woman assaulted at the County Courthouse (“We thought there was at least some chance that we would have some liability,” he said, adding that the settlement was “in the best interest of saving taxpayer’s money” and preferable to a potentially costly legal battle – Dave Rose – EPC PIO).
2) The audit showing that the new medical contract (brilliantly negotiated by former EPSO Director of Fiscal Compliance Brian McPike – he of ABSOLUTELY NO background in finance) is falling WAY below expectations. SHOCKING…
BTW – Colorado Springs Media Outlets…we’re not stupid. We notice these things.
MERRY CHRISTMAS, SHERIFF SMELLDER!!!!!!!
I’ve been reading this website for the last 24 hours. I would like to thank whoever put this up. This is the true voice of El Paso County sheriffs department. After reading all these posts I think what’s about to happen is fate. My civil rights have been violated officer Gerhart . DA Dan May has held frivolous charges over my head.. He has use is official position to push his own personal bias and target my companies.. I have over 100 Cora requests that have never been answered by Kirby.. She tried to charge me 40,000 for Emails and request 20gs down.. Lmao.. I seen multiple times ppl say Cora need to be filed.. I have gone through this they will never release anything that will implicate them in any corruption .. This just proves conspiracy to cover up and commit corruption. However when we file for discovery in our civil case they will have to answer these questions. It is very clear the oath of office violations are a direct assault on the Constitution of the United States. I also plan on going after the board of County commissioners. For I have asked for their help multiple times and have never got a reply back. 42 USC 1985 1986 .. if there are questions you would like to see come out in discovery please reply to this thread. I will be going through this website with a fine tooth comb. Give me fuel to add to the fire. I am 100 percent sure the sheriffs apartment is corrupt to the bone. I am also 100 percent sure Gerhart is it idiot since I caught him in multiple lies on my video. His testimony at the Mikita Trial was a joke. And he should not even be an officer. The fact that he was not put on the Brady list because his wife works at the DAs office is some bullshit . If Dan May did his job. Gearhart would not of been in the position to deprive me under the color of law my civil liberties. The Media will cover my lawsuit and we will be calling a press conference.. This lawsuit is one of a kind I know the press will cover it. I can’t believe they have not cover the Oath of office fraud..
The best thing to do is give everyone an equal pay raise.
If you’re unable to give a raise to everyone, then here is the “Right thing to do”. Use the money to give a raise or bonus to the civilian employee’s in the pay grades of 9 through 12. These are the workers below supervisory level.
Everyone received a 2% raise in 2016, this was a COLA that had been in the works and had nothing to do with Mr Elder. Some sworn pay grades also got an additional raise as a result of the front range survey. The primary reason behind this was to eclipse CSPD patrol officer pay and lure recruits.
If you have additional funds from the BOCC, it’s time to take care of the civilian/non-sworn in the lower pay grades. These folks get a pay bump once they complete thieir six month probation and thats it. They are the structure of the office and paid the least for their work.
Do the right thing, take care of them.
While we’re on the topic of our BOCC – Can anyone shed any light on the admission during the 2/21/18 BOCC meeting that the EPSO surprisingly did not receive close to $1 million from the 911 Authority? It appeared that Commissioner Littleton was onto something as she questioned the dynamic EPSO Fiscal Director Jane Fromme (only to have her fellow commissioners sit on their respective hands). Why were those expected (and budgeted) funds withheld fr0m the EPSO. Is this just another example of financial mismanagement? Or yet another example of Sheriff Bill’s amazing ability to screw the pooch when it comes to working with other County entities??
Seriously???, this is interesting information, and you pose a great question. Can you clarify the date of this BOCC meeting? 2/21/18?
And a lot of them are incredibly underpaid for what they do. Look at what’s going on in dispatch right now! To say it is understaffed is an understatment. We are at critical staffing levels. There are less employees working there now than there are employees who have left dispatch this year.
Supposedly we have burned through the budget, but how the hell can we when we are at and below minimum staffing basically every single day?? When people are having to take overtime shifts just so someone else can take their holiday time?
Elder has basically given a giant middle finger to dispatchers. Newsflash, if you chase all of the dispatchers away then you lose the brain of your organization. There is a reason dispatchers are essential personnel.
Very interesting article in the Independent about the PST or 1A tax. How has Bill Elder managed the 1A money? There are no more deputies patrolling the county than there were in 2012. There are not enough deputies to run the jail. The attrition rate has skyrocketed but there is a silver lining, if a crime occurs at any “Coffee with a Cop” there will be more than enough Law Enforcement on hand to make an arrest.
Just caught Bill Elder’s interview – looking glassy-eyed as ever (another rough night, Billy Boy?) with KRDO that initially aired 1/2/18 10pm about his new-found focus on illegal marijuana growers and busting illegal marijuana growing operations. “The next piece is manpower,” Elder said. “The commissioners allocated over $100,000 in overtime. And that will help significantly.” So if I understand this train of thought correctly…you need another $100k (on top of your $50+ million budget and your brilliant handling of our tax payers 1A money that was intended to provide “manpower”) in order pay your deputies? That just doesn’t add up. By the way, Sheriff…way to dress-up for the interview. Perhaps that uniform of yours is getting a little tight – especially around the collar.
The Sheriff also added, “We’re done. We’re done,” Elder said.
Your “done” alright.
Amazing!! Sounds like several commanders within the Elder higharchy are being reassigned. These moves come at a time when staffing level are critical. Now you move folks into positions where they have either never worked or have no expertise. Wow, losing confidence in the Elder administration more and more everyday. When are the rest of the citizens of this county going to wake up and take off the blinders. This office is in a dangerous downward spiral.
Makes a citizen think good people are being punished for standing up to bill. Leading by intimidation went out of style generations ago. How is this working for you, Bill? Look behind yourself sometime, I bet the group following you could all fit in a volkswagon.
I hear you were voted most likely not to succeed. How is that CBI investigation going? All your protected people been interviewed yet? The only question is, how is this story going to end.
Hope everyone noticed how Bill Elder took the horribly tragic death of Deputy Zachari Parrish, to campaign for sheriff in the next election on his Facebook page. Literally saying, “please share this message. Urge them to support my efforts to be re-elected. Tag yourself to this post and make it go viral.” It is deplorable that he used the death of a deputy as a moment to campaign. Deplorable, but not surprising. Unfortunate, sad, and desperate. Sheriff Elder, where’s your integrity?
Absolutely nothing is beyond Elder anymore, Francis. And it’s apparent that a definite pattern has formed: He used the death of a former EPSO Sergeant as a poor excuse for his Office’s notary scandal. Now he utilizes this recent tragedy in Douglas County order to further his message. Hell, he even notes that one of his individual supporters has “passed” on his re-election website. It brings to mind the following quote by C.C. Franklin…
“I do not have respect for you who takes advantage of the soul that is kind and giving, for it is you who takes such liberties that becomes the ultimate fool.”
Ironic that the office paid a sexual harassment and retaliation settlement to a female deputy just months before the entire nation is in an uproar over sexual harassment and retaliation of females in the workplace. I hope this serves as a macro-universal sign for that female deputy and other female deputies who have endured the rath of this office and the way harrassors are protected and keep their employment while the harassed are retaliated against and paid to leave. Ironic too that the harrasors have no where to go but EPSO (because they are raised and bred in that environment) but the females can use their skills to find meaningful employment because they refuse to be a part of that system. I hope it also serves as confirmation to the men who are able to get away with this behavior and the Chain of Command who supports it that YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED. The entire nation is catching on. This is the next civil rights movement and there were women at EPSO who weren’t afraid to stand up to it even before it was supported nationwide. To the women who contribute and support this behavior by not standing up to it or by furthering the cause by sleeping with married men or by failing to report, or female sergeants who intimidate during investigations (all true and on record)…shame on you too! Your days are also numbered! EPSO is the poorest example of Character First!
No doubt Elder is corrupt. But he is also incompetent. Both these are obvious from all the “confusion” and course reversals on pay, overtime, etc.
The Republican County Commissioners are also on the take. Likewise the District Attorney Office, and many in the judiciary.
Don’t believe it? Watch. Terry Maketa’s retrial is about to start–January 22nd I think. So somewhere just prior to that date, say the 19th or so, the DA office will announce it will drop the charges because of lack of something or other.
Then, down the road a little, just before her trial begins, charges against Paula Presley will also be dropped.
And then, the lawsuits will begin. Get out the checkbook.
You may have a point. One would believe that Dirty Elder wouldn’t want his dirty laundry aired AGAIN right before the big gathering of republicans who will be voting to retain him or not. Especially when he has a very qualified opponent who so far has proven he will not hold back on his criticism of Elder. It will be a perfect platform for his opponent to highlight Elder’s misdeeds. Elder will most definitely be a witness again, so it will be a show to watch for sure. And Elder won’t want Jackie Kirby (who is under investigation herself) to get on the stand either to highlight more corruption on his part. But then again, he’s not the brightest bulb, so anything is possible!
Well folks, looks like we have a choice to make. On March 6th, stand up as a delegate and vote for a change or…………………. wait a few short months for Mr. Elder to have you stand up and count off by 3’s.
Just got done reading the latest story about pay raises. Isn’t the majority of civilians female? Plus, all of Bill Elder’s command staff and most of his LT and SGTs are men. Is this nothing more than Sexism by Bill Elder? I’ve heard some civilians have not had a pay raise since Elder took office, is that true? I can’t believe that. If true, Elder is a big fat liar. He needs to be replaced. Employees need to become republican delegates and vote for Angley. Find out how.
With all the transparency of a burlap bag, notice what occurred at the last Thursday’s BOCC Meeting:
AGENDA (paying attention to item #10)
Board of County Commissioners (“BOCC”) Meeting
Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:00 AM
Call to Order.
2. Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America.
3. Staff Emergency Items.
4. Changes/Postponements/Notice of Next Meeting.
5. Comments by Elected Officials and Commissioner Liaison Report(s).
6. Community Service Organization Reports.
7. Consent Calendar
8. Proclamation recognizing iInspire Day in El Paso County. (Mark Waller – President Pro Tempore, Board of County Commissioners)
9. Called-Up Consent Calendar.
10. Resolution to recognize revenue and appropriate expenditures in the amount of $603,403 from the High Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas (HIDTA) Federal Grant to the Sheriff’s Office 2018 budget. (Sherri Cassidy – County Controller, Administration and Financial Services/Larry Borland – Administrator, Sheriff’s Office
MEETING RESULTS (paying attention to item #4)
Board of County Commissioners (“BOCC”) Meeting
Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:00 AM
PRESENT: GLENN, WALLER, VANDERWERF, GONZALEZ AND LITTLETON
Call to Order.
THE INVOCATION WAS GIVEN BY DONNIE THOMASSON.
2. Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America.
3. Staff Emergency Items.
4. Changes/Postponements/Notice of Next Meeting.
ITEM NO. 10 WAS WITHDRAWN BY STAFF
There was no reason given and no questions asked as to why this item was “withdrawn.” Is there a problem, Sheriff?
These 3 guys represent law enforcement? Gross! Most men look good in a uniform; these guys are nasty! The one on the right looks like a child molester, the one in the middle looks like Bozo and the guy on the left looks like a perverted librarian from the 40’s. If this is the new face of law enforcement, I’m not interested!
No surprise the county has a lawyer representing them that rubs shoulders on her off time with the likes of these 3. She must be a real winner to put her career on the line for them. What is their connection? There must be something in it for her if she’s assisting them with suing the very entity who signs her paychecks.
Looks like their dirty little plan backfired.
Your TIME IS UP EPSO! To the few women who said “me too” and faced the corruption and harassment and the few men who listened, good for you! To the many women who allow it to take place and the many men who don’t listen; YOUR TIME IS UP! Nation wide attention will silence your shameful participation and support of harassment and corruption and will give voice to those who have stood up and said “Me Too” and to those that did listen!
The original law suit was done in an effort to get Sheriff Maketa and Undersheriff Presley escorted out of the office pending the law suit. The original thought was that if they filed a lawsuit and an EEOC complaint, the county attorney’s office or the Board of County Commissioners would remove the accused from their position pending the resolution of the case. It backfired; apparently it was easier to put the complainants on paid administrative leave than it was to remove the source of the complaint. Their plan backfired a second time; the lawsuit added their new champions Bill Elder and Joe Breister to the suit since they were the newly anointed Sheriff and Undersheriff. They received some reward; they were brought back when Elder et al came on board and Commander Lincoln was even promoted to Bureau Chief.
From the 2/8/17 edition of the Colorado Springs Independent:
Could El Paso County get caught in Trump’s immigration policy?
El Paso County could be forced to choose between violating the Constitution or sacrificing federal grant money. “That won’t change,” (Bill) Elder told the Indy after the order came down. To be clear, his office doesn’t honor warrantless detainers, participate in the 287(g) program or have any intent to do so.
From yesterday’s (1/23/18) BOCC Meeting (Executive Session)
a. Pursuant to C.R.S. §24-6-402(4)(b) and (e), an Executive Session is requested of the Board of County Commissioners regarding existing El Paso County Sheriff’s Office procedures regarding the detention of possible illegal immigrants in the El Paso County Jail and current cooperation with federal authorities, for the following purposes:
1. Conference with the County Attorney’s Office for the purpose of
receiving legal advice on specific legal questions including but not limited to Constitutional parameters surrounding the detention of possible immigrants by State and local authorities.
Why the apparent change of heart, Sheriff Elder? Having a problem securing Federal funds/grants due to your 287(g) stance? Or is the challenge of a much better qualified and informed opponent beginning to take it’s toll? Regardless, I certainly hope for all of us that you’re not receiving “campaign” advice on the County’s dime.
And now we know –
” WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department is again ramping up pressure on cities seeking public safety grants to prove they are cooperating with immigration authorities.
Officials on Wednesday sent letters to jurisdictions warning that the department could use subpoena power to force them to provide documents showing they aren’t withholding information about the immigration status of people in custody.
The Justice Department has threatened to deny important grant money from communities that refuse to share such information”
Sounds like the $603,403 from the High Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas (HIDTA) Federal Grant (and the overtime it was going to pay for) might be jeopardy. Bummer.
It appears you’ve broken the code. After your post in regards to the executive session concerning 287g and illegal immigration, POOF! Today we have a new policy (414) which suggests we’ve changed course and will now be tough on illegal immigration.
Elder pandered to the Hispanic vote for an endorsement then pulls the rug out, sound familiar? Angley is scaring the stuffing out of him.
Since you’ve broken the code, would you please do a post on how useless Janet Huffor is so we can be rid of her too.
Dear EPSO brass (specifically Detentions),
We are not stupid, dumb or blind.
HOW MANY WOMEN HAVE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT HARRASSMENT FROM YOUR SWING SHIFT LT?????
When will you wake up and stop it? A huge multi victim lawsuit? If YOU do nothing YOU are complicit in all his actions. How many complaints are you going to sweep under your rug? (I’m sure there is no more room under there)
And news flash…. its common knowledge YOUR SWING shift LT is messing around with a Nurse, Does he even have time to work during his shift? He is too busy spending time with her!
He has a horrible reputation for being a flirt and a womanizer, and you have let him loose in CJC.
SHAME. SHAME on you all.
Ladies….speak up, tell your story- go to county HR so his buddies can not protect him anymore. And take Dirtyelders advice. Get an attorney.
Enough is enough.
Well lets take a look at all the latest news about law suits against the present sheriff. It seems his attorney got a delay on the federal suit against Elder and King so the trial will now be after the county assembly. Amazing how and why this has happened. If this trial were to be held before the assembly, this would have been certain destruction of the Elder group, to include all his staff and the Huffors. This would be a good thing for the dedicated folks holding the office together while the overpaid parties like there is no end.
You have a sheriff and a chief of police who have both had major lawsuits paid out over the poor treatment of their staffs with more to come. Wake up people, do we really want four more years of reading about scandals on a daily basis. I would think you would want an office you can support and be proud of for years to come.
If you allow Elder to continue in his present position, shame on you for not having the integrity and grit to say enough is enough. Stand up at your caucus and support the man who can bring change plus support the professional people of the office. Or, you can hang your head for not taking the stand for change and regret this decision.
Its your decision, I know where I stand, do you.
To Anonymous’ comment on Jan 24. Would thatswing shift Lts first name be “John “?
I recall working with a supervisor named John who could always be found in a female employees office instead of his own. How can the office reward this conduct? Shame on him and the command staff who put him in a leadership role.
My My My,
Looks like another harassment suit will make the news “AGAIN” this coming week. When will these people wise up and understand you do not troll where you work.
As a wise old Lt once stated, he would draw a big circle and say inside here the sheriff’s office. Then draw a bigger second circle. He would say this is outside the office. If you are going to fool around do it out here and not inside the office, and surely not with anyone there from the office.
But as you can see this lesson has been forgotten. What do you have, a bunch of protected whore dogs that cannot be around females alone at the office.
Too bad the Huntz suit got delayed. Wonder how this is going to affect the outcome of the election? Just because it was delayed does not mean it went away or is being forgotten.
My My My
Take a look at Mike Angley’s website, Very interesting article about 1A.
If sheriff Elder is correct about the IA file, then Ms. Kirby committed perjury because she stated she heard Paula had the file. What a mess.
…a “sick” child? Please…
Definition of “Corruption”:
– “dishonest or illegal behavior especially by powerful people (such as government officials) : inducement to wrong by improper or unlawful means (such as bribery)”
Definition of “Transparent”:
– “free from deceit (frank): easily detected or seen through (obvious): characterized by accessibility of information especially concerning business practices”
Is anyone (or everyone?) else having a problem with this latest “delay” in the Maketa proceedings? Just one more instance of this County not being held to the same standards as the rest of us. And they only have themselves to blame for our doubt.
Bill Elder committed perjury too, While on the stand he said he did not know about the IA because he had already retired before the investigation started. I believe he used the term “retired” to build trust with the jury knowing full well he quit to avoid the IA. Therefore hr purposely chose to use the term “retired” in a very purposeful and dishonest way to earn credit for a long successful career that he did not infact earn.
You are Correct, bill elder did not retire. He quit to avoid an IA investigation. He knew he was going to have to take a Polygraph and he was afraid of what that might turn up. He later cashed in his retirement which means he currently has no retirement. If he does not get reelected he will not qualify for a retirement. Maybe that’s why he is stealing so much? 60 year old Elder only has Social Security. How is he going to pay for all the liquor he drinks? We hear he is drinking more and more; he drinks so much he still has alcohol in his system when he comes into work the next day. bill elder is a liar and has committed perjury. They will do what ever it takes. It’s our understanding the only reason elder took the stand was to show the others he would lie as well.
After reading the post in regards to Elders management of the Public Safety Tax on Mike Angley’s website “Irregularities Jan 30th”, there is only one choice left for us. Become an Angley delegate on March 6th. Sitting on the sidelines waiting for the general election won’t help. If not, those of us that are left can change our collar brass from EPSO to EPSP Elders Pink Slip Parade.
When the Public Safety Tax sunsets, so will our jobs. Elder will no doubt gather us together in a room much like the day he announced the 2014 promotion results, he’ll sob and say it’s not my fault and how the voters let us down. Elder, Borland and the Huffors will wave good-bye from the fifth floor.
But it is their fault, become a delegate or count off by three’s
Questions, The Medical Company Armor took over for antoher company, Did that company just win a $3,000,000 law suit against EPSO?
Sooo…. The Office is now accepting donations for Deputy Flick’s family. Rest in Peace brother.
But… the money is to be funneled through the “El Paso County Sheriff’s Office Foundation Incorporated.” Sounds rather innocuous at first glance. But is it? What is this Foundation and where did it come from?
I checked the Colorado SOS website for this business entity and found that it was formed on April 20, 2017 (yeah… “420” day) by “Robert D Johnson.” If it has been around for that long, what was it formed to do? Why? What have they been doing since then? Is this part of some of the back room deals of Elder’s? An amendment was filed today, saying the Foundation is to allow for donations to 501(c)(c) organizations or, upon dissolution of the Foundation, to give all funds to a 501(c)(3) or a government organization, like the Office. That amendment is dated, hilariously, on “February 8, 2018,” a date that has yet to come, given that today is February 6, 2018.
I think this deserved looking into. Anyone got any info?
Jackie Kirby…once again you’ve proven yourself to be a phony POS.
Yeah,,,we caught you yucking it up with the media on FOX 21 Friday @ 9pm (the night before Deputy Flick’s funeral). It was embarrassing enough for the anchors to cut away – and not return. Do you truly have no shame? And were all your tears this week just another one of your little “performances” before the cameras?? You should be ashamed.
A MUST READ Message to the Citizens regarding Sexual Harrasment at the EPSO! Pay particular attention to the Day 1 agenda.
To some, be hopeful!
To others, be afraid!
Well, I just read the latest blog on Mr. Angley’s website about this weeks Lieutenant meeting. It seems Mr. Elder believes he has inside information on Angley’s plan for the office should he prevail.
Two things stand out as laughable on the part of the dude currently holding the sheriff’s seat (Let’s not kid ourselves and call him a leader).
1. It would seem that the one with inside information is Mr. Angley. He knows what was said in every meeting that takes place at 27 East Vermijo almost as it’s happening. The last time we saw a leak of this magnitude a guy named Noah built himself a boat!
2. As Mr. Angley states, “At least I have a plan” true we don’t know what it is but at face value it sounds better than counting off by three’s.
The only thing that’s gone up in our world is the number of Lieutenants, Sergeants and other assorted staff positions along with their salaries. Oh yes I should also mention the attrition rate. I’ve had enough of Elder and his band of misfits to include his son-in-law Little Billy.
“Where there is anger, there is underlying pain.
Where there is denial, there is underlying fear.
Where there is abuse, there is cover-up.”
The pursuit of gratification from vanity or egotistic admiration of one’s own attributes.
Quotes from Sheriff bill elder last week:
“I knew what this would feel like”
“I knew the emptiness”
“I think the men and women in this job understand that this job may ask them to sacrifice their life”
“I get one shot of making this right for him” Elder remarked.
No “we”…No “us”…No “together”
It’s speaks volumes, folks…he’s not thinking about you. He’s only thinking about himself. Now it’s time to think about your next Sheriff. “We” have an option.
Maybe its time to start breaking down some of the lies and stretches being made by the present man in charge. So was a really a career law enforcement guy as he claims? Why did he leave the office if he was dedicated to the profession? If you are a professional you begin and end your career with the same agency. Do your own fact checking.
Was the time keeping issue the only problem during his days at VNI? Heard he refused to take an exit Polygraph.
If the man is really the hometown boy, why not act like one not only on camera, a stage or for publicity. I think a hometown boy would put the interests and safety of his personnel before any personal gain. How often has the average member of this office seen the sheriff visit their work site and talk about their concerns and ambitions? No, this man is more concerned about the wants and desires of the fifth floor and protecting his chosen few.
Do not forget folks, he was able to get a delay in the federal trial coming up, the office has no way of prevailing, so delaying was the only option. It maybe be delayed, but its has not been forgotten. How much is this one going to cost the county.
Wake up people, is this why we pay taxes, to support a leader who leads from the back of the train and not the front. A smart man once said,” if its predictable, its preventable.”
What are your thoughts for the next 4 years, more predictable behavior.
Do the right thing Larry Borland!
Do you really think we believe Rick Dietz, David Mejia and one of the most beloved and trusted Lieutenants to ever work at the EPSO are liars or is it you?
Stop cleaning up after your friend Bill Elder. You jump every time he screams “Wipe Me”. The two of you have become a two headed snake!
Last chance Larry Borland, Do the right thing!
Duncan – I really don’t think there’s any reason to be so hasty with your “opinions.”
I’m sure that Sheriff Elder, Larry Borland, Janet Huffor et al are actually having Deputy Flick’s fraudulently notarized Commission Card (The Independent November 10, 2017 – “In May 2016, we had a deputy dying of cancer, and we wanted to pay a tribute to him and his wife and provide a framed copy of his oath of office””) framed as we speak in order to present to the Flick family.
Rest in Peace, Micah.
First time? Ok. The administration was definitely at fault in this case for not getting rid of this person a lot sooner. She didn’t win, it was a settlement. It was too costly to fight it in court. She knew the evidence they had against her, all the information to include video and recordings of the inmate and deputy relationship she established. She knew all that would be exposed, Ms. White House could not possibly be embarrassed in court. A settlement is an agreement which includes no discussion on her part thereafter but it appears she failed. This situation does not relate to the #MeToo movement so just stop. Is she regretting her decision now and can’t move on?
The administration received numerous complaints from employees of the way she harassed those around her. After she filed this claim she logged everything and reported everyone around her for frivolous reasons, this caused tension at work. Those around her were ordered to keep professional and to be nice. She reported excessive force on situations which created wasted hours of investigation and argued blatantly with people causing scenes at work. She walked around acting untouchable for months because the administration allowed it. You’re right! Shame on them for not defending the employees from a liar and a harasser. She posed as a victim when she victimized so many. She was a tyrant especially against SRT members. This is all well known and celebrations occur in the quiet corners of the jail and courthouse of her departure.
Retaliation and harassment? That’s what she did. She drank the kool-aid more than anybody there, that’s why it was so important that she left. She was embarrassed, she needed to be known as a wonderful employee and she was far from that.
The SRT Lt. DID NOT lose her tabs because of her, don’t flatter yourself. It was a personal choice after a UOF investigation concluded.
The demoted SRT Sgt. was offered his job back after she left. He turned it down, smart man. The administration knew the County HR investigation was not conducted correctly. It was their first and it caused the ones after this one to be handled very differently. She did not win anything but settled on less than a year’s salary that was taxed down to what? A 4 month salary, just to go away. Who won here?
There is an ongoing situation very similar, a female civilian possibly having a relationship with an inmate. She felt the heat of the investigation and now threatening to sue. Our administration again is backing off of her. We must not fear these folks that want to sue! We should defend what is right, fight back and get rid of these corrupt individuals like this woman you speak of in your post. She should have been booted much earlier but she filed a lawsuit and spewed false allegations and that unfortunately protected her.
Last I checked she left a lot of adoration for the Huffors on Facebook too. Until they deleted her. She weaseled her way into every event needing to be the center of attention. Stalk her Facebook, it is rampant with the koolaid stains.
Mentioning the Huffors should not be enough to post a comment, check the facts.
Btw, the married couple you speak of are one of the best supervisors this agency has witnessed. I have worked with and for both of them. They do the gritty work that other supervisors would never do. They’re the first one in cells and the first to stand up for us. Stop the lies and move on with your life. Better yet over coffee you and this Sexual Harassment instructor should discuss fact checks before sharing falsities. Get over it.
Concentrate on the corruption. Why did we lose money on this? Maybe the administration should fight against false allegations.
At Move On! And so the support of Harassment continues. I’m not sure how the victim you speak of has moved on, however I am sure that it is one of the mentioned Sergeants (who also took part in harassment, intimidation, retaliation at the jail) is who wrote this post. Your words prove the deep support of harassment and the lack of sincerity in investigating harassment. Also, the SRT Sergeant was demoted, so how was he offered back the position of SRT Sergeant. And if the office truly did make this offer, shame on the process for holding proven harassers accountable. Anyone who knew the female deputy, would stand by her character would never allow her to fraternize with an inmate. And accusation she was never removed from her position for or demoted for. Trust me, if there was an investigation into the sergeant and his process found him to be guilty and demoted, then I assure you there was an investigation regarding his accusations as well. If you believe that the office will settle with someone just to get them out of their way and send them on their way; then why is her case the ONLY case to have settled. Truth is, he was founded to have harassed her, it was known he had harassed other women, and he was punished. The office settled because they did not want the embarrassment of what her case would reveal about the workplace conditions at EPSO. If she settled for less than what you think she should have, maybe it wasn’t about the money for her. Perhaps it was about being validated by an office wanting to make things right and chose to just do what you said and “move on.”
Listen, my original post was never primarily about the women who stood up to a corrupt office and won, it was about the degradation of a handful of good deputies once they get promoted and the connections they make in order to secure their futures, connections that are without morals or merit. The two sergeants mentioned may be first in cells and may support deputies, in order to maintain the appearance of their value at work, but they have aligned themselves with the political corruption that sweeps the office.
Shame on you too for faulting a female deputy (who was founded to have been harassed) for logging incidents occurring against her and reporting them. If she caused tension amongst the harasser and retaliators (from the SRT all the way the Chain of Command), good for her for taking the tension they caused in her career and facing them. If the harrasors and intimidators at the jail and courthouse are relieved she is gone, that only comes from the relief they feel knowing they kept their jobs and only had to attend Mandatory Title 7 and retaliation classes. I’m sure her relief comes from somewhere else, to be away from an office you seem to defend while victims make claims.
The civilian and the lieutenant, come on, really, all of us still here at EPSO who have been here for a while know his reputation of being a womanizer and harrasor himself. So now his victim is accused of being inappropriate with an inmate as well?!?! Is this the fallback when women report?
Your post only further reveals the environment there and the way it is sickly supported. It only reveals those who have drank the koolaid and who are still drinking the koolaid and how the toxic environment can be manipulated in order to support the corruption and revictimize the victims. Odd, that you, an obvious koolaid drinker, would acuse someone who faced the office and won of drinking koolaid. I assure you she was drinking saltwater the entire time, as you yourself know, because you yourself intimidated a female deputy by reminding her of what the command staff could do to her for alligbing with that female deputy.
You also revealed what Mike Angley will review when he comes to office, that all harrasment fikes need to be reviewed to ensure justice was served.
Change will come in only a matter of time! It always does!
At Move on, simply for the thoroughness of attending to the requests made in your comment, I did stalk the female deputies FB page for the “koolaid stains” and mentioned and her weaseling into events you mentioned. The only post I saw of her at an event was when she received a Life-Saving Award from the office; an event you have to be invited to after a supervisor or co-worker nominated you for the award. I also saw a congratulations for her A Banding for court, an event you have to test for. I actually attended that same board and one of the most well repspected and disciplined Lts in the office, I assure you, did not allow anyone to weasel through. I also saw a post someone she trained in the jail tagged her in that seemingly encouraged her and thanked her for training her, a trainer in the jail does not weasel in, they are selected. Ironically, I did not see the post when I just scrolled far enough back on her page, but I do remember both the male sergeant and the female sergeant tagging her in their promotion ceremony pictures and promotion dinners. Was she a weasel for supporting them? Yet, when she reported harassment, they each took part in the intimidation process of a shift and of female deputies, because just like I mentioned in my first post, a certain amount of leadership in the sergeant ranks are carrying the messages for a corrupt command staff and administration. AGAIN, my original post and follow/up posts were never primarily about the female deputy and her facing the office. That was only used as an example of how deep the corruption can go and how it can turn good deputies into future corrupt leaders who continue to carry the torch of the corrupt leaders who create them. The “untouchables” if you may. The word you used to describe the female deputy who faced the untouchables and yet you say she acted “untouchable” – I think you are confusing that with her holding her head high and continuing to work while she faced the untouchables.
The tension you speak of in the office, come on, really, you are going to give a victim the extra burden of creating the tension?!?! The tension is still here and has been here for years. It comes from the harrasors and work place hostility and the “untouchables” who make it hard for good employees to concentrate and work.
The focus of my post is to reveal the issue at its deepest level, that the corruption is bread and continues to be. Your comment proves it! There are real issues here at EPSO and they won’t change until someone makes it unpopular for people like you to victimize victims and support harrasors.
I was on the Honor Guard with the female deputy, one of my best assignments in the office still today. Once chosen for the team, we all attend events (often in our personal time) to represent the office in the public. Are we “weasels” for marching in the cold during the Christmas Parade while EPSO families get to enjoy the festivities they deserve to enjoy. Are we “weasels” for attending funerals of fallen officers and for escorting deputies during the awards ceremony that will occur tomorrow night? It’s done in a strange and slick way the way the corrupt and intimidating members of the office can make those who contribute seem like they are doing so for the same reasons they are! There are two types of employees at EPSO, those who are serving honorably and selfless and those who are serving to be honored and are self-serving.
I’m literally getting ready to go on duty and CANNOT help but call the “Move On” post COMPLETELY laughable. That post may be able to fool someone who doesn’t know, but for those of us who do know, we know this administration would NEVER spare ANYONE suing the office or ANYONE who filed a complaint against the office from being “embarrassed in court.” Why are they smearing other names who have made complains against the office? Because they look for ANTHING, even false evidence, to embarrass and humiliate and intimidate those who complain against the office or who don’t play the political game. If this administration could have proved EVEN TO THE SLIGHTEST, that the female deputy was inappropriate with an inmate, they would have fired her to rid themselves of her being retaliated against daily at work, and would HAVE NEVER SETTLED her case. And to set the record straight, you said “why did we lose money on this?” This office did not lose money on this, the tax payers did. Perhaps if the office lost money they would rid the harrasors and protect victims. This post of yours shows the type of mentality we are up against as employees in this office. People who create falsehoods to deceive the average person from thinking about the real facts of how the actual process goes. You create smoke screens.
The office settled the case because THEY didn’t want the embarrassment. They couldn’t find anything on this victim, easy to gather that opinion by the way the office treats others complaintents/victims. It’s why they refuse to settle all the other law suits, because they believe they can create enough lies based on lose information they discovered about someone they can use to create an entire smoke screen and ruin someone’s entire reputation.
They settled because a harrasor was proven to be harassing an employee and he was demoted, an SRT team dis-tastefully rallied at the jail and intimidated other employees who may think to report in the future, and Lt Huffor and Commander King walked amongst them as if they were “untouchable.”
Anyone reading the “Move On” comment, this is what we face in the office.
It appears a supporter of intimidation and workplace harassment is brave enough to attempt to convince the masses otherwise. FTR, the SRT Sergeant who was demoted was Absolutely NOT offered his position back. He is a deputy now, so he cannot regain the positon of SRT Sergeant as a commenter previously mentioned. Wow! Look at the revelation in that statement though, that the office would offer him back his position of trust that he abused?!?!
First post got it right; because Move On was definitely written by the female sergeant referenced. She and her partner are the only people in the entire office who would make it sound like it’s a bad thing when the Huffors aren’t on you FB page.
Beware fellow co-workers of wolves in sheeps clothing. Be Smart! Sergeants who are spending their personal time with The Kings Men, meaning the sheriff and his enforcers, but who also claim to be the ones who take care of the troops; both cannot exist!
Please; we do not want this website to become employee on employee bashing. We must focus on getting rid of Bill Elder and his corrupt leadership. Elder would love for employees to forget about him and go after each other.
Great point! And we must not allow people in authority to bash victims. either. Our job as sworn protectors of the law is to protect victims and expose people who victimize.
Very true, and yes, needs to be reminded that our current sheriff would love for all of us working here to forget about him, especially as election rolls near.
Keep the focus on Elder and his corrupt leadership and the leadership they are currently creating to be corrupt. The original post that started this chain of debate was focused on new leadership joining the old corrupt leadership and becoming corrupt themselves by creating a hostile work environment.
The response was an attack on a victim who at one time was one of our co-workers and who worked extremely hard and who represented this office well until she reported the horrific environment in which she eventually became aware of through her own experiences.
Stay focused! Watch your leadership! Hold them accountable. Do not trust those who choose spend their personal time with the corrupt leadership while making you feel that you are being supported.
That’s a part of the control matrix!
Really unbelievable for a leader in the office to post a comment titled “Move On” while referencing sexual harassment, workplace hostility, and a victim.
To any employee who is currently being harassed or has been harassed, be encouraged and do not “Move On.”
Stand for your yourself, advocate for yourself, and say “Me Too!”
A settlement is ALWAYS offered by the guilty party when they have no real factual weapon to form against a victim! EPSO settled with the victim who was probably happy to take her “little miss White House” experience somewhere else, as you patronize someone for their work experience, experience this office could use.
Also, to somehow minimize the settlement amount, as if a settlement in the amount of nearly $70,000 of taxpayers dollars is hardly any money. Sure, her case was worth LOTS more and it’s why EPSO wanted to avoid court and sure she accepted a lot less than what she deserved after the proven treatment of her during her investigation.
However, I’m sure if you ask any El Paso County taxpayer if they are happy or comfortable with paying even $1 dollar of their money to settle with victims, I’d bet my annual salary of nearly $70,000 that an honest citizen would say no.
Ask the hardworking single mother or the hardworking elderly couple, or the young man trying to start his life right out of college, if they believe $70,000 is hardly any value.
Leadership, not all, but the majority needs to be completely cleaned out. You’re helping to support corruption and a hostile workplace environment, and your reply further victimizing a victim is just the tip of the iceberg in sharing your true hearts!
How can the citizens trust EPSO if the employees can’t?
Reading all these posts and looking back at my career in EPSO got me thinking about something. If it’s really this bad working at the SO, if leadership is really corrupt and running amok and the working environment has become hostile and toxic….what are you going to do about it? Seriously. People say they’re afraid of coming and publicly supporting the other candidate. They fear the current administration will retaliate against them and force them out of their job. Seriously? I hope they retaliate against me. It’ll just be a nice bonus on top of my salary.
Unless you’re part of command staff you won’t be bothered and if you really believe that the current administration will go after you for exercising your right to vote then you better get involved. Why would you want to work for an administration that will do such thing?
You all have an opportunity to make a difference. Some of you will make the effort and most of you will just sit at home and expect other people to do the dirty work while you sit at home and pray for a “better” outcome that benefits you.
If it’s really horrible working for the current administration then go out and become a delegate or recruit your friends and family members to help make a change and stop bitching and whining. This is your golden opportunity to make a difference whether you’re supporting Elder or Angley.
If Elder and company get re-elected then things aren’t as bad as a few of you claim. If Angley gets in then I guess most comments were true, the environment was toxic and change was necessary. So once again, you can post “your” frustations here and on other social outlets but it won’t make difference. Get involved and stop bitching.
I’m getting involved and I have nothing against the current administration but I would love it if we get a run off so that we can at least hear what both Elder and Angley have to say. Let me judge them on their speeches and deabates and let me vote for who I think will be a better sheriff for the citizens of El Paso County. I definitely do not want the flawed caucus system we have in place here deciding who our next sheriff will be. Give me a chance to see what these folks are made of and quite possibly some entertainment to go with that. Lol.
Sheriff Elder has been asked by a number of organizations to either debate and/or be present at a Q&A type forum with Angley but he will not show…only Elder knows why. Unfortunately that only leaves the written words of the candidates to draw conclusions from at this point. So everybody has to ask themselves…is what I’m reading and seeing about Angley better or worse than the experiences I’m having with EPSO or reading about here. As stated perhaps if Angley makes the cut at the County Assembly the Sheriff can be forced into a debate. If he doesn’t have the balls at this point I’m guessing he lost them long ago and he will continue with his “no debate” policy.
That is hilarious! Can you just see the veins popping out of Elder’s head when he learned his beloved Janet Huffor begged Angley for her job~oh to be a fly on the wall! Guess the Chosen Ones are starting to panic now. Let’s sit back and enjoy the show.
Now is the time for all the dedicated, professional members of the SO to stand up for the good of the organization. What you do now is not only for your secure future, but also for your family and the citizens of this county. Lets make this happen together folks and become a united blue family once again.
Now is not the time to sit back and watch. It’s your time to step up and not be afraid to show what you are made of and show what you stand for. True leaders stand up not only during times of hardship but also when they need to ensure the rights of all are protected, and not just for the chosen few. (FOB) – friends of bill
Yes, I understand the present administration is crumbling. But before you can make a building new and functional, you must first take away all the rubble and start with a new foundation. Where are you standing here people, are you part of the rubble that needs to go away or part of the new foundation working towards making this organization strong and professional again.
Brave folks stand in the face of adversity. Be proud to be a delegate, and this can all be over at the County Assembly. Then, the planning can begin for a smooth transition for this office to become the best in this state and possibly the nation.
Now is the time to stand up and be counted folks. I see their are some folks already seeing the writing on the wall. Pretty sad when the campaign manager for the other side has already thrown in the towel.
And now the Pantheon of loyalty begins to crumble. Janet Huffor groveling for her job, SWEET! She can’t be the first or the last to see the writing on the wall. How long can it be before Rob King comes calling, he does have that new house to pay for. Perhaps the always loyal Jackie Kirby will will drop by for coffee. Let’s not forget Rodney Gehrett who wrote that dripping man crush endorsement for Big Bill.
Mr. Angley, somewhere in the basement of 27 East Vermijo is a large flush handle that connects to the fifth floor, the employee’s of the EPSO ask you,
“PLEASE PULL THE HANDLE”
Time to get involved. Everyone who wants a change. Go to your caucus. You don’t have to tell anybody who you are voting for. You’re just there to get involved; to make your voice be heard and your vote count. If you don’t go, you have no one to blame but yourself if Elder is the only name on the ballot. It will be 4 more years of the same. GO TO YOUR CAUCUS! Encourage your friends, your neighbors, your grandma, everyone you know to do the same. While you’re at it, if you’re an employee of EPSO and afraid to donate to the opponent, then have your friends, neighbors, or your grandma donate your money for you! Elections aren’t free! Time’s running out.
Yes, we all need to get involved – Caucus is Tuesday, March 6th, check in starts 6:30, caucus meeting will begin at 7pm. You can nominate yourself to be a delegate. You must have $40 payment (cash or check) to turn in that night. Make sure you are able to go to the county assembly on Saturday, March 24th at UCCS where your actual delegate vote will be cast and is private. Show Elder and the pervert Billy Huffor and his wife that their BS will no longer be tolerated. If we don’t stop them, then they will be empowered and run the office into the ground. We will have Huffor promoted to Bureau Chief by the end of the year. Elder is no leader and the public needs to know of his misdeeds. Spread the word to your neighbors and friends.
“You never let a serious crisis go to waste.”
– Rahm Emanuel (Mayor of Chicago)
Interesting timing this morning in that sheriff elder felt it necessary to send both Commander Clif Northam and Mr. Janet Brown to the BOCC meeting this morning, one week prior to the upcoming caucus. Northam just wanted to thank the community for their support (and meals) in light of Deputy Flick’s passing and stressed the great working relationships that the EPSO has established with all the local agencies (Fountain, Manitou, CSPD). Meanwhile Mr. Brown, while mentioning the Florida HS tragedy, sincerely(?) thanked the BOCC for their support of the SRO program (which, by the way, he twice made very clear to the commissioners that he “supervised”).
I guess the sheriff finally woke-up from his alcohol induced coma and realized that it’s about time he starts campaigning.
Finally some real transparency from the elder administration.
From Elder’s reelection website: “In August of 2017, I asked KRW to return to the Sheriff’s Office to evaluate our progress on the recommendations outlined in the KRW Report. They have been meeting with employees, reviewing changes to policy and procedure and holding focus groups. We hope to have the results before the end of 2017.”
The focus groups were completed in September. It’s now the end of February – 4 months later. WHERE IS THE KRW REPORT?? Oh right… Elder doesn’t like the results because the report states morale is low, no improvements have been made and he’s a TERRIBLE “leader”. He allows Billy Huffor to grope a female deputy but blames the deputy. Patrol staffing is at just 67 deputies!! There were 86 patrol deputies in Jan. 2015 when Elder took over. That’s almost 20 deputies LESS. WHERE is the $22-24 MILLION dollars of 1A/Public Safety Tax going? Oh yeah, to command staff positions created for Elder’s buddies and supporters. Elder doesn’t want to release the KRW report from Sept. 2017 right before the caucus because he will prove he’s a lousy sheriff- where’s his transparency and accountability that proclaimed to have? He’s lies to the public – he has NOT been in law enforcement his “whole life” – 12 years was spent in a real estate business and remember – he declared bankruptcy because he and his wife just couldn’t “get ahead” because once he was promoted, he no longer could earn overtime money. Wouldn’t we all like to get a clean slate and have our bills wiped clean without having to pay? No wonder the sheriff’s office budget is in disarray, PSW monies are being stolen and used for things other than what the taxpayers voted for, people are quitting/retiring on a daily basis because of his lack of morals, honesty, integrity and respect for employees. Elder didn’t even have the decency to show up for the civilian in-service last week even though he was in the building – did he send the undersheriff or bureau chief? NO – He’d rather waste money by paying the employees to take a 2 hour lunch. He has NO respect for for this office or this county!! He needs to be tossed out like yesterday’s trash.
Congratulations, Sheriff Elder…you’ve not only gone statewide, but you’ve gone nationwide!
Denver Post – “Federal lawsuit accuses El Paso sheriff of illegally holding ICE detainees…The ACLU is seeking class action status for all people held in the El Paso County jail on ICE holds”
ABC News – “Suit challenges sheriff’s attempt to hold immigrants”
The Washington Times – “Suit: Colorado sheriff’s policy violates immigrant rights”
We’re all just so very proud of you. Wow, when you campaign, you CAMPAIGN!
PS – Can’t wait for the staff meeting today!!
The corruption of Mark Hurlbert, CBI, Dan May, Bill Elder and their gang is disgusting. The truth about their witch hunt of Maketa, Presley and San Agustin will be exposed. Maybe not today, or this month or even this year. But it will happen. Now that the cases are dismissed people have already begun to talk. Big secrets are being revealed and the tides are turning. Elder’s little empire is already crumbling.
Its a sad day when you are burying one of you brothers in blue, and your sheriff is having a big laugh prior to the memorial. This was a hard, sad day for the Flick family, and this is the behavior of his boss.
Its looking more like what ole bill did for the family of Deputy Flick was for his personal gain down the road. At such a vulnerable time, and he cannot control himself to at least look sad, this was the real bill coming out.
I truly hope elder does not try and use the Flick family in his attempted bid at re-election. Do it on you own bill, debate Angley and show the people what a professional you claim to be. Stand on your accomplishments during this term, or lack of.
Funny how one of your supporter claim Angley has no experience and is not post certified. Well major, you more so than the others at the office should know the extensive experience Angley has in the federal law enforcement arena.
He will be able to become post certified once he wins the assembly. As you must be aware, bill too had to become re-certified after his 16 years as a re-estate agent. Sure hope he has kept his license current. wink wink
The time is coming quickly and I can only imagine how the folks in the office are going to see the professional leadership returns and cronyism is walked out the door. Its going to be a great day at the caucuses, and even a better day at the county assembly.
Together this will happen. Keep the faith and this is truly a team effort for this office to be rebuilt and no longer torn apart by the unprofessional behavior of the present administration.
Be safe all.
While this may seem like an effort to defend the current regime, it is not, but I would like to correct the website….this image was not taken at the funeral for Detective Flick….it was taken at the Pikes Peak Region Fallen Officer Memorial Service held every year in May. This picture would have been from either 2015 or 2016 because one of his minions, Chuck Kull, is still a sergeant….he was promoted to Lieutenant in 2017. Besides….the day of the funeral was snowing and New Life Church is white.
I do concur with the rest of your comments and with the website.
This caucus smells different. This time around I feel like there will be a run off. I have a feeling Angley will acquire the required delegate vote (30%) and a bit more. (Personal opinion)
If it does happen, then I think Angley’s odds of being elected for Sheriff are very good. People can vote without feeling like they’re being targeted or retaliated against, can influence their significant other, friends, family members, neighbors, pets (lol) to vote for Angley if change is really needed or Elder if no change is needed and business is good. Ultimately, the employees (YOU) will have the power to bring change and your voices be heard.
I will be attending my precinct caucus next Tuesday night in hopes of becoming a delegate. I no longer work at the SO and when I did l got along fine with line level employees up to Command Staff to include Elder and still do. I don’t have a dog in this fight but would hate to see 1,500 delegates decide for 7000,000 El Paso County citizens who our next Sheriff will be on March 24th. Let the citizens of El Paso County decide in November of 2018.
Get out and get involved but don’t bitch if you don’t and you’re not satisfied with the results.
See y’all next Tuesday.
Bill Elder thinks he can threaten EPSO employees into supporting him, Billy Huffor thinks people “just don’t care” and harasses and intimidates employees. Janet Huffor thinks she’s running the show. What does our badge say? HONESTY, LOYALTY, UNITY. Bill Elder has done NOTHING to support the employees or bring us together. I think we ALL need to band together and show them that we DO care and we WILL take back this organization from their mismanagement, threats and intimidation. Bill Elder AND Billy Huffor think they can control people by telling them not to associate with those that support Mike Angley or else their promotion will never happen or even threaten their jobs. We need a new leader, a TRUE leader that will treat all employees equally and fairly and management the budget so that people will actually want to work at EPSO and stay there for the long term. It can only happen with each and every one of YOU – talk to your neighbors and friends, encourage them to go to their caucus and become a delegate. Encourage those delegates to cast their vote for HONESTY, LOYALTY AND UNITY. EPSO needs a change in leadership and we have the power to make that happen. Republican Caucus is this Tuesday, March 6th. General Assembly is Saturday, March 24th. Take a stand for yourself and your co-workers. Things will not get better – they may get even worse – if we don’t DO something. Silence IS the endorsement of corruption. To all the supervisors that see what’s going on and say nothing – “leaders” speak up and defend their people; “leaders” speak up when those in charge are doing wrong. Please stop supporting the corruption, intimidation and blatant favoritism. Bullies are empowered when good people stay quiet and do nothing. Do the right thing and support the change that is so needed in this organization.
It struck me this morning, after witnessing our Sheriff stumble through the last few years, that the issue we’re facing today is the overwhelming lack of RESPECT for this administration. Zero RESPECT for the Sheriff, zero RESPECT for his Command Staff, and zero RESPECT for the poor decisions this regime has made.
Anybody reading this right now realizes that your mind begins to wander and focus is all but lost when you lose RESPECT for who you’re involved with or lose RESPECT for the responsibilities you currently have. That alone explains the absolutely awful situation we all find ourselves in today. This Office has lost it’s way…but it can be recaptured.
Think about those individuals in your life that you truly RESPECT. You RESPECT their honesty, their courage, their ability to communicate, their integrity, etc. RESPECT is healthy, necessary, and unequivocally imperative in a successful relationship and/or organization.
To the current EPSO members – look to your right…then look to your left…and think about the several hundred(!) former peers that you truly RESPECTED that have left the Office since 2015 and no longer stand next to you.
Sheriff Bill Elder has done nothing to honestly earn our RESPECT. He’s only attempted to buy it. He’s only attempted to intimidate it. He’s only attempted to bully it.
With all due RESPECT we can do this…together…as it should be.
And while we’re at it…Speaking of RESPECT and all –
“CBI Re-opens Investigation into EPSO Administrator Larry Borland for Ordering Government Documents Falsely Notarized” CS Indy (11/10/17)
“In May 2016, ( BTW – Sergeant Derek Conrad passed away in 2015) we had a deputy (Sergeant?) dying of cancer, and we wanted to pay a tribute to him and his wife and provide a framed copy of his oath of office, so we went up to the room where he lay dying at Penrose Hospital and I swore him in and I gave him his badge and we left that room with that signed affidavit and took it to the Clerk and Recorder’s Office and we had it recorded”
Easy enough… the EPSO can provide receipts of anything from gas in Santa Fe to hamburgers in Seattle. Let’s see the receipt for that signed and framed “affidavit” for Sergeant Conrad.
Seriously, this was a great post!!
Lets look at what ole bill just posted.
“I ask that you learn about the issues, the differences and make an informed decision, not just listen to rhetoric. per bill”
You at the office have been living with the issues for the past three years. Through all the scandals by his administrators or hand picked croonies. What have you seen during this administration, cronyism, unqualified people promoted, some twice, and some way over paid considering their qualifications and experience.
I think you folks have seen the issues, and know from an insiders view point, this administration will not get any better in another 4 year term. Is this what you and this county want.
Rhetoric, really is that what bill thinks about all the information posted on this website. Its pretty amazing after vetting all the information, the folks managing this site have done an excellent job. I too have vetted the information and stories and have always found all the information and allegations to be true. Majority of this vetting has come from those that are in know and so close to the issues, as well as the problem person, bill.
So folks, please take the time to be well informed on both people running for the office, and make your own informed decision. Do we really want four more years of lawsuits, intimidation on a daily basis, and see that only special people get promoted. I think not.
Lets all become delegates, vote at the assembly for change, and send a clear message to the fifth floor. Its time to stand up for yourselves and what best for this office.
Together we can make this happen!!
As caucus night approaches, consider your options.
Ronald Reagan once asked “Are you better off today than you were four years ago”. I for one did not get a new ford explorer, new office furniture, multiple promotions or a job created just for me that pays 90k a year. Bill Elder has brought us turmoil, division and empty promises since he walked onto the fifth floor. He and his clan are nothing more than carnival barkers standing in front of an empty tent. Do we want four more years of this? How many supervisors and friends you respected are gone? People retire as soon as they’re eligible or walk away from a career they loved. Everyone else comes to work in a fog just trying to get through the week and hope we’re not called in on our day off to get more of that cherished comp time.
Now it’s campaign time!
Mr. Elder, don’t tell me to compare issues or accomplishments, I’ve been living in the world called reality my whole life but what the hell, let’s compare:
You obviously screwed the pooch when you were managing the VNI money way back when and it led to your early departure (Bailout) from EPSO the first time. Your testimony at the Maketa trail rivaled Tom Hanks portrayal of Forrest Gump but Tom Hanks was acting. Then we have personal bankruptcy, and your total incompetence running the EPSO. Mr. Angley may be an unknown but his credentials are far and above yours. He hasn’t revealed his “Plan” but my guess is he doesn’t want to give you any ideas to steal and call your own.
Mr. Elder, your campaign promises and rhetoric are the Emperors new clothes, you sir are NAKED!
I’ll choose Mr. Angley.
I thought mental health was one of Elder’s top priorities (out of 5)? I guess not enough to show up for the graduation of a week long program for CIT (Crisis Intervention Training). Elder doesn’t care about anything right now other than getting re-elected so he can secure a retirement and keep the money flowing for himself and the huffors, This administration is a disgrace to our county.
Good evening all,
Great article and spot on about Todd Evans and Bob McDonald. Both are still well respected by their peers as well as past employees. The article is totally correct on why they left. Without the backing of Todd, Bill would have probably been beat out by either Reid or Anderson and would still be selling real estate today with no retirement in place.
Look at all the good people that have left. You are well aware of why they retired earlier than they wanted and were fed up with the B/S of this administration. On the bogus personnel sheet Elder want everyone to fill out, he should have done a poll to see who was the most hated in the office. Wonder who that would be? So many to choose from.
Now is the time to help yourselves and stand up to all this corruption. There is no way Elder and King will prevail in the Federal Trial coming up, and the county will again be paying out big dollars. Not to say what will be paid to Maketa, Presley and SanAgustin.
I am sure you all at the office are as disgusted with the behavior of the administration as the rest of the citizens. Do you really want to see lil billie and Janet still around in four years. We the people have the chance to stand as one and put this election to bed once and for all.
Become a delegate and attend the county assembly. Lets put an end this corrupt administration and begin planning for the future of the office.
Lets make this happen together. You build a wall one block at a time, but the more blocks you add the stronger the wall becomes. Lets stand together and let Elder know what the public really thinks of him and his band of cronnies.
If Evans and McDonald had a pair, they would have stood with us and fought this battle instead of running away with their tails between their legs. WE loved the both of them but they were both a HUGE disappointment to all of us who remained to fight the good fight.
Think about that, guys…you left hundreds of us scrambling to fix this thing without you. It’s not too late to let your thoughts (and knowledge) known.
They’ll never do it. They would be incriminating themselves because they are too involved and know too much. They are NOT innocent when it comes to Elder and his misdeeds. They were both very much a part of it, but when the going got rough, Evans bailed and McDonald soon followed. We will never hear the truth from either of them, unless of course, they are granted immunity.
I did my part, did you? Remember, don’t bitch and whine if you didn’t and are not satisfied with the results. See y’all at the assembly on March 24, 2018
Hi Chief of Stuff Huffor –
Apparently you check in daily to see your if you (or yours) is mentioned. Just wanted to make today’s “check” fruitful for you.
(KKTV 11 – 3/7/18) “Tenant/landlord relationship with Rocky Top complicates homeless camp eviction”
“The deputies handed out pamphlets with homeless resources. Anyone who is not gone by Friday will be cited with trespassing. (Lt) Huffor told 11 News (and sounding quite frustrated and angry at that – perhaps the results from the previous night’s caucas’ were taking their toll?) that the plight of the homeless is a ‘community issue’.”
“This is a community problem. Where they go next, is where the community needs to engage. Affordable housing, mental health treatment, substance abuse treatment, the list goes on and on.”
Just a reminder, Billy Boy…from your Sheriff’s own re-election website:
“Message from Sheriff Elder”
“Accomplished in short-order was the rebuilding of relationships with our regional law enforcement partners and community organizations. The citizens of El Paso County deserve nothing less than to have their local law enforcement and community leaders working together to accomplish the same goal……to build the safest and most vibrant community in Colorado and the nation.”
So I ask you, Billy – is the Sheriff’s Office actually working with the community…or is the office to busy just passing the buck (again)?
Let’s move forward –
(KKTV 3/8/18) “In an abrupt about-face Thursday, the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office now says the dozens of residents of a large homeless camp will not have to vacate the camp Friday as initially planned.”
Wow, Lt…way to jump the gun (and on tape none the less). Just another example of a well-planned and researched EPSO operation.
By the way, Sheriff. Is this really who you want to be the new “face” of your office. He’s not doing you any favors…at all. But then who are we to question your decisions. They’ve always been spot on.
Billy Huffor wasn’t really jumping the gun on this one. He just doesn’t know what he is doing. This is the problem when a Sheriff makes appointments and promotions based solely on political favors. Huffor was a mediocre deputy when Elder took office, but immediately promoted him to Sergeant. Less than a year later, Elder promoted him to Lieutenant. Now, Elder has put him in charge of law enforcement street cops, despite the fact that Huffor doesn’t have a clue what he is doing. The eviction questions would have been a “no brainer” to an experience patrol deputy. But… that’s Elder politics.
It was amazing at the caucus how many people had heard of dirtyelder.com and were asked if everything on there was true. I told them to just do a little vetting on their own and they could easily verify everything as factual.
Caucus night was a fun evening talking to lots of other delegates and hearing their feed-back about the sheriff’s race. So many commented they were impressed with the website of the “colonel” and were interested in talking to him and as well as supporting his platform at assembly.
I have a feeling there are many other delegates as excited as I am and cannot wait for the assembly to put this race to rest.
I hear Bill was not real excited or engaged on caucus night, I think he has a lot on his mind. Like when will the next lawsuit be filed, which of my staff will step on it next, and what will I do for a retirement when I lose.
Well, I guess you could always start your own circus, you already have a boat load of clowns.
I want the employees of the EPSO to stay strong and united, help is on the way. To the delegates of this county, lets get a real leader in the office and make it a professional organization AGAIN!!! See you all at assembly!!!! Go TEAM!
Good Morning all,
Its less than two weeks to assembly and the excitement is building. Information has it tensions on the fifth floor are getting pretty loud and does not sound like a happy place to be assigned. Maybe its because the head guy is finding out his folks are not behind him any longer and trying to save their own future. Good luck there.
I am wondering who is really in charge at the office and why does it seem that the chief of CSPD always seems to be around to hold Bill’s hand. Carey is not a bad off the cuff speaker, something we know Bill does very poorly. This is the reason he will not debate Mike Angley. Come on Bill, man up and give the people an honest live debate, do not hide behind Pete or Janet. Its pretty pathetic you are using Pete to bring folks to you just like you used Todd, because no one knew who you were. Now they know “you” and do not like what they see. You are some one who has broken so many promises, hired many incompetent people, wasted funds on too many promotions, unnecessary positions, and lawsuits.
How about the chief of stuff, the court liaison, the civilian bureau chief, an inspector, a traffic Sergeant in charge of no one, and more Lieutenants in charge of very few people. Plus, all the take home cars. To include a reserve Lieutenant who would at the Broadmoor PD. Total up the waste in these positions and you could put more deputies on the road or in the jail without addition funds, just using the funds efficiently.
It sure does appear the blocks are starting to tumble. Stand tall folks at the EPSO, true leadership is coming, and cannot wait to see everyone in the office and the public coming to support Mike Angley and say no more to Elder and his band of croonies.
Check out all this for yourselves folks and see everything on here is true.
“Integrity is doing the right thing, even when no one is watching.”
So, Caucus night is done and the county assembly is fast approaching. Several of Elders staff were seen at their precincts, they all turn out to protect their paychecks. Remember when they returned in 2015 and said,
“I only want to stay for two years and go out on my own terms”
They wanted to regain what Paula Presley had taken from them. Apparently Paula left that collection of anatomy in her office for Janet Huffor to find.
What will we get with four more years of Bill Elder.
• No more deputies on patrol than we have now.
• More Commanders, Lieutenants, and Sergeants.
• Undersheriff Billy Huffor.
• More Janet Huffor.
• More Do-nothing staff. (Awaiting Janet’s commands)
• More from financial wizard Larry Borland.
In reality, what did Bill accomplish?
How about a double digit attrition rate? We have lost a wealth of institutional knowledge with the departure of some of our best leaders. Elder wanted to create a “BENCH”. How’s that going?
The public safety tax cash is bringing in an average of 20 Million a year yet we still can’t staff patrol or the jail, WHY? One cash sucker could be our attrition rate and the Sick time/Vacation payouts that go with them. Some who leave have very little on the books while most old timers are maxed out with an average payout of 50k. In round numbers we’ve lost 200 people with Elders purge plan. If they averaged 25k each, which is a reasonable number. That’s 5 Million. What is this mass exit doing to the retirement plan? Might we see a 10 year vesting requirement soon?
How about “1A”, Bill hasn’t mentioned it in his Hometown sheriff act. What he has mentioned over and over again is that he needs a second term to qualify for retirement. Here are his greatest accomplishments from the first term:
• A new Condo in a gated community.
• A new fifth wheel camper trailer.
• A new monster pick-up truck to haul that camper.
• A hefty pay raise.
• A sanctuary employer for sexual harassers.
Bill Elder cannot pull off the extension of the public safety tax folks, He doesn’t care! As long as his retirement is safe.
What do you get with another four years of Bill Elder?
About twenty months to polish your resume and count off by three.
I am one of those “old timers” mentioned by Duncan that left the Office under Elder’s regime. I acknowledge I had a character flaw that was most likely viewed with contempt and scorn by those that would deliver us from the evils of Maketa/Presley; I, unfortunately, cared about those that worked for me. That was seen as a weakness and was apparently viewed as not being part of their team. I am sad to admit that I supported his bid for office; I knew John Anderson was not the answer because I had lived through that 8 years of “joy” and knew we didn’t need a repeat. I liked Jim Reid, but didn’t know if he was the man for the job. I wanted to believe Elder’s promises; I thought for once the Sheriff’s Office would have someone that would truly support those on the line doing the work. Sadly, I was again disappointed. I would like to think that Elder did have the intention to change the office but when you bring back the same people that were part of the problem under the previous tyrant, you aren’t fixing anything. It is like a surgeon removing a tumor and then putting all but a tiny chunk or two back in the body, hoping it will work out. How is change suppose to occur when you have an Undersheriff and Bureau Chief come into Patrol briefings saying that they are just there for 4 years and don’t care if 1A is renewed, because they got theirs? How does promoting a group of people to Sergeant and Lieutenant who had never tested or were not on the current list help support a promise of a fair and impartial promotion process? How does “flattening” the chain of command by adding a second Undersheriff/Chief Deputy and addition staff positions demonstrate fiscal responsibility? (I would note that flattening does rhyme with fattening….Freudian slip?) There has always been somewhat of an exodus from the office when new management comes on board, but when you have 200-250 people leave an organization, to include some of those he brought with him and some of his most devoted followers….that is what we call in the business a clue that something is wrong. With the county assembly approaching, I am hoping that, at the very least, Elder will have to fight to keep his job. I hope he continues to refuse to debate his opponent….his silence will scream volumes about his character. To those I left in that hell hole; stay safe, watch out for each other and stand strong. Help is on the horizon.
Those damn “character flaws” you have…I only hope they weren’t honesty, courage, or intelligence. Because if they were, you never had a chance under Bill Elder.
BTW -The actual attrition number is well over 350 former employees that have left the EPSO since January 2015 – Probably closer to 400 (50% of the Office). Chew on that…Seriously 🙂
Good morning hero’s,
Yes hero’s, those of you who have chosen to become delegates and will stand tall at the assembly. Its amazing not all folks on the fifth floor are supporting Bill’s re-election. This says a lot.
Maybe Joe has finally had enough of the B/S of this administration and enough of the civilian Bureau Chief challenging his authority. Hell, Borland’s career was pretty poor over all and whats are his top five accomplishments? Time to go to Arizona Larry. CBI let Larry and Janet off the hook?
Bill has lots of in fighting from within, and refuses to debate openly because he would look like a fool without a script provided by Janet or Natalie.
Why is Bill and his campaign folks campaigning during the middle of the day. I am hearing you are intimidating folks with your standard questions, “are we okay”? Whats a person to respond, ya great we are so happy you are our sheriff, NOT!!!
I do not know how all the people on the fifth floor can come to work every day knowing everyone in the office is disgusted with your behavior and “you” as a leader. The way you and your staff treat your employees is abominable.
On Saturday when Bill is riding on the old plow horse or on a float, understand one thing folks, this is not a man of integrity, but someone who is only in this for a retirement. A smart man would already have his retirement in place, and is truly serving the people. What does this say about old Bill.
I ask you as the sheriff, are we okay? Hell no, you let us down as a leader, you broke your promises to get us to vote for you, and you do not have the trust of the people. You have lied to the people and the hometown boy needs to disappear quietly.
Its a pretty sad day when employees are encouraged to become delegates to the county assembly, then are threatened by a commander prior to assembly. Wow, I thought we were living in American.
I hear EPSO delegates are being told if they vote for Mr. Angley at the county assembly, their futures will be compromised and not looked upon kindly by Elder. What the hell kind of leadership is in this. This is why the sheriff and commander are headed to federal court next month. How many more suits like this one are waiting in the wings to be filed. Word is many, and the board of county commissioners is just as responsible as the hometown boy. Do you really want four more years of these controllers.
Its time for these disgraceful folks who call themselves leaders to be shown the door and bring a leader who will be transparent, and not do the smoke and mirrors with facts and figures. Bill changes policies to suit his needs, he promotes unqualified people with little to no experience, then gives inflated salaries to these positions. How about the paying of your civilian bureau chief at the sworn rate. Was this over payment ever paid back, or swept under the rug like everything else in the Elder administration.
The future of this office is certainly in the hands of the delegates. Do not be afraid of this administration folks they are nothing but a lot of low-life individuals who are more concerned about their retirements, their future inflated salaries, and not about you as a professional employee. The public is reading this site more than Elders folks think, and they too are making informed decisions and vetting these informed articles.
Stand tall folks, the public understands what you stand for and will be voting with you at the assembly. Lets rid the office of these shysters who call themselves experienced leaders. Time is coming soon to making an informed decision, this office cannot sustain four more years of Elder and his band of misfits. If Elders were to prevail what will the attrition rate be, its already heading towards 30%, due to the mistrust of an over worked and under appreciated staff. We the public hear you!!!
Wow. Another mind-numbing performance during yesterday’s Fort Carson fire by our dear leader. Put a microphone in front of him, stand back, and just wait for the insight:
1) As hundreds of his citizens were forced to evacuate (and only wonder if their homes would avoid the flames), Elder began his part of the press conference touting (campaigning?) the strong “relationships” that have been built.
2) He then went on to pull out his crystal ball and predict that the fire “would be out by midnight.” (Last check – still burning at 8am Saturday morning).
Gee, Sheriff Elder…You’re just so darn good speaking in public. Are you sure don’t want to debate the Lieutenant Colonel??
So much for your Terry Maketa/Waldo Canyon moment, Sheriff…once again, you spit the bit.
At least you got to ride in one of those air-o-planes to see the fire yesterday. And with any luck you got to ride a pony today at the parade.
Hope you got a balloon and some cotton candy, too!!
History repeats itself,
In September of 2012 the American Embassy in Benghazi Libya was attacked and burned. Questions as to the whereabouts of President Barrack Obama started the next morning. As it turned out, Mr. Obama jetted out to a campaign event in Las Vegas as Benghazi burned.
Could a politician make an error like this again? The answer is a definitive “YES”. Last night a wildfire ragged in Midway south of Fountain, several homes appear to have been lost and families displaced. To his credit we understand County Commissioner Longinos Gonzalez was at the scene to help in any way he could, for this we commend Commissioner Gonzales.
The man responsible for wildland fire fighting in El Paso County however has taken a much different course of action, while Midway burned Bill Elder prepared for two much different events. The first came early this morning where Bill Elder appeared on the Jeff Crank radio show in a campaign event to promote himself. The second at noon when Bill Elder appeared in the annual St. Patricks’ Day parade which for him was another campaign event to promote himself. Yes, my friends, History does repeat itself.
It is also worth noting that the EPSO Wildland fire team is short several members who fall into the minus side of the attrition rate previously mentioned. Several members refused to work for not only John Padgett but also Bill Elder himself. Not only is the patrol section desperately short of help, apparently so is the wildland fire crew. Most officials fear the upcoming fire season, what is Bill Elder doing about it?
Unlike anyone else on here, I will leave my real name with any comment I ever make. I happen to know that Sheriff Elder works 16-20 hour days , most of time, in order to fit in events like the parade in which OVER 150 people showed up for, very excited to walk and celebrate a man they adore. Over half of the participants were kids and had been looking forward to the parade for weeks. He doesn’t let people down.
He had JUST left the fire AND they had to go right back when it was done. People like him and that upsets those who support Angley. I can appreciate that. Angley showed up to the parade in an expensive suit and played on his phone the entire time. Not exactly my idea of someone who fits in with El Paso County.
Ms. Ward, thanks so much for your response! You and the rest of Mr. Elders supporters have always claimed you didn’t read this website. We always knew you did but it’s nice to have verification. Welcome from those you and your elite friends consider the unwashed, we call ourselves employees.
For those of you who don’t know Missy Ward folks, she is in the upper echelon of the El Paso County Republican Party. That’s right she’s one of those people who doesn’t take sides or support any candidate until the assembly is over and the “DELEGATES” have made the choice as to who will represent the party on the general ticket.
So, for those of you who didn’t believe the fix was in with the swamp, go ahead and sign your daughters up for Billy Huffors “Stop and Frisk” class at the jail. I’m sure it’s all fine.
It is unfortunate that many in the (El Paso County) Republican party do not hold their elected officials accountable; they blindly re-elect them. We do not believe it would matter how much evidence there is of Bill Elder’s corruption, they will vote for who the leadership tells them to. We would suggest Missy go talk to a few Deputies (not Elder’s leadership) and see what they have to say. How about a few of the hundreds that have left EPSO in the last few years. That says a lot more than walking in a parade. Missy, get informed and take off the blindfold. If you are serious about getting the truth send us an email and we will direct you to a time and place where you can talk with real Deputies.
Elder is the most corrupt sheriff we have ever had.
Would be nice if Elder would we willing to release the most recent KRW audit report. I’m told that he won’t as the deputies gave the auditors quite an earful about how corrupt Elder and his command staff are.
Who paid for that KRW report…It wasn’t the actual taxpayers of El Paso County was it? If so, it seems that those same taxpayers would want to see the results of their hard-earned dollar.
Pretty sure it was taxpayer funded. FOIA?
Ooh, so brave you are…unless you work for EPSO and OPPOSE Elder than it’s not a big deal to use your name.
Interesting site. I’m “just one delegate”, but at caucus I was asked what my thoughts were on The Sheriff position. I, like most delegates have only seen the public face & have no insight into the internal EPSO. I have only casually been following since the last fiasco. Yet, enough had filtered in for me to know things were not healthy there so doing my due diligence I took a look at the alternatives. Everything I saw about Angley impressed and on the surface I was no enemy of Elders, but things just seemed to need a fresh change & I really liked Angley’s qualifications, statements on transparency, and comments on fiscal responsibility. It appeared by evening’s end that all 3 would be casting ballots for Angley. It wasn’t until after the caucus was closed as I was walking out that one of the delegates pointed me here. I would like to point out something if you are a delegate wondering how much here is true or not, which I cannot with certainty comment either way. However, a true leader who has lost the confidence of so many for what ever reason would be well advised to consider whether they are still effective in achieving the mission. When the mission is the safety and helping to ensure our civil rights are not violated I want everyone in EPSO pulling in the same direction with as little distraction as possible. I think perhaps Angley may not offer leading us in a ‘new’ direction as much as simply being able to lead a greater majority of in the ‘same’ direction.
Just one…I too read all of this site. My thinking at first was that this is UNBELIEVABLE. Then I said to myself…for the sake of argument let us stipulate that this comes from the disgruntled, the fired, those wit an axe to grind with Bill, etc. Let’s also stipulate that 95% is false leaving 5% as true, EVEN if ONLY 5% is true, that in itself is SO DAMNING that Bill Elder absolutely should not get another shot at dicking up the office any more than he already has. My vote went to Mike Angley yesterday and he’s getting it again in the primary!!
KVOR story on the Midway fire,
In an interview today KVOR reported that the fire is out now that a large pile of used tires has been extinguished. The part that surprised me was that they identified the Chief of Operations as Jim Reid! This would be the same Jim Reid that is the Director of County Transportation. Does this mean that because a bunch of old tires that once rolled on county roads were burning that it fell under Jim Reid’s responsibility to run this operation? Or is it more likely that Bill Elder and John Padgett couldn’t get the job done and a higher authority stepped in and asked Jim Reid to do it. For those of you who don’t know Jim he’s the guy that ran wildfire operations for Waldo Canyon and Black Forest.
My guess is the second choice, I don’t think Bill Elder could put out a candle if Smokey Bear was his Undersheriff.
Anyway, Thank you Jim Reid.
A tire fire is considered a hazardous materials incident. The county Hazmat Team was taken away from the Sheriff’s Office and placed under EPC Emergency Management, which is under Jim Reid.
Just a clarification Duncan….. Jim Reid was not working for the Sheriff’s Office during the Black Forest Fire and did not run Wildfire Operstions although he did during Waldo Canyon Fire.
Seen on Facebook:
Sheriff Bill Elder threatened me. (Now he’s getting sued.)
I am not a spokesman for the Mike Angley for Sheriff campaign, but I endorse Mike. He has not asked me to send this email, nor coordinated with me in any way. Neither am I associated with the web-site http://dirtyelder.com and I have no idea who is.
I also do not speak for Dave Williams for HD15, Vickie Tonkins for CCD5, or Ray Garcia for HD21, but I endorse them all as solid conservatives. Vote for them at assembly.
In my personal capacity as a private citizen, I hereby firmly oppose Bill Elder for Sheriff, because Bill Elder personally threatened me. I regret having supported Elder in the past.
And I’m not the only one. Did you know on April 30th, Bill Elder is going on trial as defendant in a lawsuit, read here. Elder has continued the culture of harassment of his predecessor, Terry Maketa. While I am not a party to this lawsuit, I believe those who are now suing Bill Elder, because…
Two years ago, Bill Elder personally threatened me. I was afraid then, but I am not afraid today. While I fully expect Elder to retaliate for this email in my future, I feel empowered as a delegate at County Assembly, and I will vote for Mike Angley for Sheriff.
At the last county assembly, two years ago, Elder looked me in the eyes and said,”Gordon, how dare you say that my friend Bob Gardner co-sponsored Obamacare. If you continue to say that, I will personally dial every delegate and call you a liar.”
That threat, from a powerful man with a badge, of CONSEQUENCES IF I DIDN’T KEEP SILENT sent chills down my spine. I later emailed Bill personally to request he retract his threat, but he never did. (If he denies this, I’ll release the email. Just ask him in person.)
The truth is, Bill Elder fully supported Bob Gardner’s co-sponsorship of Obamacare that made it state law (proof here).
If you don’t believe me, just check Elder’s postcard in your mailbox today, with a big endorsement by “Obamacare Bob” Gardner, his buddy today.
WATCH MY VIDEO INTERVIEW WITH MIKE ANGLEY FOR SHERIFF HERE.
Here are 10 reasons I believe to be true, about why I’ll never vote for Bill Elder:
1) Elder’s cancelation of the 287G program (proof here) made us a “sanctuary county”and made it easier for illegal immigrants to “catch and release.” Because Elder did not stand firmly with President Trump’s ICE policy he invited and caused the recent ACLU lawsuit which just released more criminal aliens back into our society, making YOU less safe.
2) Elder is getting sued on April 30th, in part for continuing Maketa’s culture of harassment, read lawsuit against Bill Elder here.
3) Elder canceled Maketa’s fast-track pre-screening of some concealed carry permittees,delaying Second Amendment loving gun applicants for months instead of weeks.
4) Elder is not initiating marijuana arrests, but waiting for CBI and DOR to enforce the laws that he should be enforcing first.
5) Elder supported tax hikes in recent ballot initiatives, proving he’s not a conservative.
6) Elder is now deceiving delegates by personally telephoning YOU to call Angley “uncertified.” The truth his local certification is not required by law until 1 year after election, and even then Angley could serve forever without pay. Elder himself wasn’t certified when elected, but now claims that it’s mandatory? He lies.
7) Elder went out of his way to endorse all the RINO liberals in our party last election cycle, and opposed caucus-selected conservatives. Just look who he stands with.
8) Elder opposed Rep. Dave Williams’ legislative bill to hold elected officials accountable if they “catch and release” criminals who hurt citizens.
9) Elder accepts donations from his own employees, who are sure to get favors later. I predict he will punish or demote those who vote for Angley.
10) Elder’s own deputies don’t like him, since Elder frequently reportedly speaks abusive and foul language in private meetings where he berates his own staff. He’s a bad leader with a history of abuse of power.
Finally Elder is inexperienced compared to Angley with Elder having served only one command, when Angley commanded 5 federal law enforcement units.
Here is why I support Mike Angley for Sheriff:
“As a former State Rep and 20-year honorably discharged veteran I heartily endorse Mike Angley for Sheriff of El Paso County. Mike is a 25-year veteran criminal investigator and retired Colonel with OSI, the Air Force equivalent of NCIS. He’s a social conservative, has written for Breitbart, supported Sheriff Arpaio, commanded several large government law enforcement organizations, and would immediately put an end to multiple internal corruption and abuse of power problems still resident in our county Sheriff’s office. The failed leadership of Bill Elder, whom I regret supporting in the past, needs to be replaced with a man of integrity like Mike Angley who will 1) support conservatives instead of RINOs, 2) actually arrest and prosecute illegal grow houses, 3) end our catch-and-release “sanctuary county” problem, 4) speed up the concealed carry permit process, 5) end the culture of sexual harassment still ongoing from his predecessor, and 6) cease the new favoritism and internal promotion of political cronies in his own department. Mike Angley can be trusted, and Bill Elder’s actions prove his empty words cannot be trusted. I pray you volunteer, donate, and caucus for Angley for Sheriff.”
I’m not alone. Read the long list of others endorsing Mike Angley for Sheriff, here.
See you Saturday at the El Paso County GOP Assembly in Colorado Springs.
God Bless you!
Gordon Klingenschmitt, PhD
Gordon For Colorado
PO Box 77077, Colorado Springs, CO 80970
Wow people, if you want to know more about Bill and his band of merry men. Check out the post by Gordon Klingenschmitt to the Colorado Springs Republican Meetup Group on Facebook. Read this post and see how the almighty Bill has abused his authority and has made threats not only to his employees but to a private citizen.
Make an informed decision about who you want to represent you as sheriff and lead the agency into the future. I trust you will all do your own fact finding and see the post has truth and facts to support Gordon’s claims about Bill.
Stand together folks and lets make this happen. Do not let the madness of the present administration to continue.
Before tomorrow’s Assembly proceedings, we think it might be substantive to visit this KRW survey debacle just one more time:
– In a moment of weakness, the BOCC approved (in the Spring of 2015)spending tens of thousands of tax-payer dollars on an “independent” and “unbiased” boondoggle of a survey of the EPSO and it’s culture.
– The company that was contracted by the EPSO was KRW, and was headed by former CSPD Chief, City of Colorado Springs City Manager, and Bill Elder and Larry Borland’s close friend, Lorne Kramer (the “K” in KRW).
– Following completion of the survey, Elder, Borland, and Kramer (with family in tow) embarked on a 3-week catamaran trip around Grenada in early 2016. Who paid for that trip? Was it a gift to Elder and Borland for the lucrative contract??
– We’ve been told by certain Command Staff members that Larry Borland didn’t even enter his vacation time accurately during this trip, once again costing the tax-paying public thousands of dollars.
That trip alone just screams of “conflict of interest” and “abuse of power.” But let’s fast-forward to Summer 2017.
– KRW is once again involved in some type of follow-up survey.
– We understand that the results voiced by the employees of the EPSO were extremely unfavorable for the Elder administration.
– The results of the survey (a survey that was once again paid for by the citizens that Elder represents) are never released. What are you hiding, Sheriff? Just what are we paying for??
Is this what we’ve come to? Is Bill Elder our best option?? Do your homework delegates – he’s wasted our money and he’s wasted yours. And if elected to another term, he will continue to do so… and smile to your face as he’s doing it.
What Bill Elders “INCOMPETENCE” can and will cost you.
El Paso County is no longer the “Hometown” Bill Elder fantasizes over in his stump speech. Walter Mitty pretending to be the sheriff has consequences, unconscionable consequences. Voters, if you keep your head in the sand and don’t put a stop to Elders INCOMPETENCE you’ll pay the price in more than tax money.
This hometown boy does not have the credentials to counter the growing influx of crime in our county. MS 13 gangs and drug cartels are not hometown folks; they are an international threat. Allowing this to become a sanctuary county puts us one step closer to becoming a Texas border town and everything that comes with it.
• Increased gang activity
• Illegal immigrant population growth
• Homeless population growth
• Illegal marijuana grows
• Human trafficking
• Violent crimes
These are no longer “South side” problems, they are creeping into every area of the county. Briargate, Falcon, Black Forrest, Gleneagle, Springs Ranch, Old North end and the West side. Bill Elder hasn’t been part of the solution, he’s part of the problem.
The international crime that has invaded our hometown needs someone with international experience to fight it. Mr. Elders small view of the world has been focused on positions for his friends, contracts for his buddies (KRW), new cars and trips to San Diego, Grenada and countless other boondoggles.
Bill Elder has failed to put more deputies on the street and failed to staff his jail. The deputies need your help. The conditions they work under are extremely dangerous for them and you! The position that’s VACANT right now may very well be the one you need when you dial 911. More than 350 employees have left the EPSO under Bill Elders INCOMPETENCE.
Your tax dollars are funding his INCOMPETENCE!
Stop the madness.
Bill, did you really go to on vacation with Lorne Kramer and Larry Borland? Yes or No. Pick one. Bet you lie.
Dear Sheriff Elder,
See what happens when you tell folks you are a force of change and get their support and then you turn on them? They don’t vote for you at the County Assembly…plus they tell other folks how you and your command staff have pushed people to quit or retire and those people don’t vote for you either. Eventually, you end up having to face a competent candidate, with good credentials who can speak well in front of others…..while you crack a joke and use the death of one of your detectives to further your political career.
In addition to blatant harassment and intimidation by Lt. Huffor, it should also be noted that Sheriff Elder apparently felt it necessary to utilize a little more “subtle” form of intimidation during yesterday’s county assembly.
While ALL EPSO employees/Elder supporters in attendance were decked-out in those nice, white “Elder for Sheriff” t-shirts, Elder stationed one Lieutenant above the bleacher seating on each side of the assembly hall. Interesting that they WERE NOT wearing the Elder t-shirt, only a coat and tie in an misguided attempt to blend in. Why were they up there, Sheriff? Were they your “eyes in the sky” – merely observing the pageantry of the proceedings? Or was their intent one of intimidating the delegates in attendance?
Yes, Sheriff. We noticed.
The two lieutenants in question were actually working as Sergeant in Arms for the assembly. Their primary duties were to ensure that the decorum of the proceedings were not interrupted and to remove those in attendance who disrupted and interfered with the proceedings. There was actually a third one, but he apparently didn’t get the memo to dress respectably. I cannot speak as to whether they had an additional assignment to “observe and report.”
I would also note that the Sheriff may have been in violation of the rules of the assembly. According to the rules packet provided to all attendees, it stated that if you were a candidate that had an opponent, you could not do the invocation, the Pledge of Allegiance or hold any high official position…but, Elder was assigned as Sergeant In Arms. Perhaps the El Paso County GOP has some explaining to do?
Like having someone shout out “Elder” as candidate Mike Angley was preparing to speak? Or was it the “decorum” of having the Elder’s “stooges” raise their Elder signs as high as possible at each end of the hall while Angley addressed the delegates of El Paso County?
Sergeants at Arms? Please.
It was absolutely despicable that our fallen Deputy was used in an effort to garner votes. Shame on you Sheriff.
Pete Carey, how proud you must be to stand along side your buddy, or should I say “Cash Cow” Bill Elder. Now you are forever connected to the ridiculous high school tactics employed by the Elder thugs. What a proud moment for so called professional law enforcement, to create a gauntlet in front of the assembly hall to confront delegates. Some delegates actually thought it was a picket line protesting against Elder. Thanks for showing your true colors Pete, your just as bad as Bill. The two of you do make a lovely corrupt couple.
And to you County Commissioners
• Mark Waller
• Darryl Glenn
• Peggy Littleton
• Stan VanderWerf
• Longinus Gonzalez
You endorsed this behavior, like a conga line of clapping seals!
WOW WOW WOW,
This is how Elder likes to run his organization, like a crime boss with enforcers and folks used to intimidate dedicated employee. I heard there were two deputies lil billy harassed that left the assembly before balloting, along with his tirade of profanities unleashed in a restroom and observed by the general public. Such an example of a professional law enforcement officer. I wonder how many office policy violations were violated by billy alone. Or were this behavior ordered by Bill and he will give billy another pass.
But wait lil billy was not the only lone person who acted like an ass to a private citizen. Bill tried to harass a retired long time employee in the same manner. This delegate was not intimidated, and stayed to voted for Mike.
You know Colorado Springs wake up and see the true colors of this administration. There are witnesses to these behaviors by the billy’s, so do you own research. Call Bill’s favorite station and have them ask if these incidents happened at the county assembly. I think both are one step short away from these victims calling in a harassment complaint to the UCCS Police, or better yet, just file suit against the billy’s. How much more bad publicity can this office suffer before the truth is present to the general public.
Please Pam Zubeck, look into both these harassment incidents and be further verification they happened. I am sure you will confirm both incidents were in violation of campaign laws, civil law as well as criminal law and need to be investigated.
I think the employees of this office have responded directly to you Bill, no we are not alright, and we want you to leave before you finish destroying the office with all your failed administration. Listen good because the train is coming and you cannot stop karma!!!
And please, Pam Zubek, do a FOIA request for the most recent KRW audit report mentioned above and paid for by the taxpayers. Please!!!
Well Hello Bill (since I know you read these),
It was so nice to see you yesterday at the assembly! Not because I like to see you in general, but to see your expression when you realized that a lot of your white shirt wearing ‘supporters’ obviously voted for the better candidate, Mike Angley. Oh, the look on your face was priceless!
So, I thought I would offer you a suggestion. Maybe you should drop out of the election and retire!!! Here’s how I see it…
Obviously, things didn’t go as you had planned. You expected 85% of the vote, but something went sideways for you. That something was a LOT of your former and CURRENT employees. By this time, you have to know that there is a very significant number of your employees who absolutely can not stand you. And those same people have been diligently collecting and diseminating documentation of your corruption. And don’t think for a moment that all those former Maketa Commanders who turned on him won’t turn on you. I know of one of them who is already providing info to Angley’s campaign.
Now that Mike is on the ballot, the media is going to start listening to him and his campaign. You must realize that we are going to open the valve on the back of the septic tank truck and start dumping all of your filth all over the city. The public (the voters) will finally get to see the real Bill Elder.
Is that how you want your career to end? Publicly shamed like you have so desperately tried to do to Terry Maketa? It will be with pleasure that we will do it to you!
So, your choice. Save face, withdraw from the election and fade off into the sunset, or find a good solvent to get the tar and feathers off of you, ’cause you know it’s coming!
What has Elder and his dimwit commander Padgett done with this countie’s qualified wildland fire fighters? Scott Campbell, fire crew founder and crew leader since 1994… forced to resign. Other qualified fire fighters, paid and volunteer resigned due to recent bs in the Emergency services division. Bottom line, if you have experience and knowledge, but are not a “yes man”…. you are gone. 2018 is setting up to be a VERY ACTIVE fire season and EPSO valuing political bs over tax payer property.
Citizen in Shock
Wow, the behavior of members of the Bill’s campaign on Saturday was distressing at the least. From the beginning of the assembly to the end there was the intimidation from the time you got off the bus. You were met by 10-20 aggressive supporters. If you indicated you were a Bill supporter you got a handshake and a pat on the back. If you indicated you supported Mike Angley, you received aggression, disrespect and some even were harassed and threatened in front of command staff.
So many witnesses to this behavior.
I think this behavior was pure discrimination and retaliation by members of the sheriff’s staff, to include command staff. I would think they would have to report the individual who was acting manic and aggressive to private citizens to the Undersheriff, or Internal Affairs.
The response on one commander was oh, I see you just met Huffor. The actions of Huffor towards this citizen, also a retired office deputy, rose above the level of disrespect, threatening and harassing. Huffor’s action were unprofessional, criminal, and it was the responsibility of staff have a duty to report to the office, to the UCCS campus police to investigate, or have Huffor leave property due to his unprofessional behavior to start.
But, we all know lil billy feels the entitlement to be able to act this way and thinks he is above the law. Elder did the same to another retiree and longtime “friend”. If you are not a supporter of old bill, god help you. I think both Bill’s are having episodes in immediate need of mental evaluations to ensure the safety of the public. At this point you have two thugs with badges and no one from the office or the county is addressing their behavior.
Also heard king actually called an employee and told him if he knew what was good he had better vote to support crooked bill. Now this type of behavior using a telephone falls under the title of phone harassment and threats. Hello, Pete what are you going to do about this one, bury your head in the sand and allow this behavior to continue. Thought so, you are as unprofessional as the rest.
So, folks has any one from this corrupt clan of thugs with badges reported the actions and behavior of any of these folks yet. I guess they missed the class on duty to report.
Good people of the EPSO, we understand what you are up against and this is why you needs to stand strong and united. Citizens of El Paso county, please stand up and question this administration’s behavior.
The republican leadership needs to launch their own investigation on the these acts of harassment committed at the assembly. This assembly was controlled and run by elder and his thugs, not by leadership of the party. The public is watching along with all the media sources, what are you going to do republican leaders?
Its time to end exploitation by the elder administration and bring back professionalism to this office. Be proud those from the office who supported Mike, we know the majority with be able to vote from the privacy of your homes for the primary. God bless you good folks. The rest can retire and move away, except bill, there will be no retirement, just move away in shame.
This voter intimidation is unbelievable.
Since when does a long-time Detention Bureau Commander have the right to pull a delegate’s ballot out of her envelope during the Assembly to see how she voted? How is this allowed to happen??
Sheriff Elder, when will you realize you were elected to the Office of Sheriff based on your Promises YOU made to both the Citizens and Employees of the office after all the Maketa mischief. Yet all I hear is how you not only continued the shenanigans, you started from day one and have not let up a bit.
When will you, and you alone be the Sheriff and not let the Huffors act as if they were co-sheriff, and stop the drama?
I believe in my heart of hearts, that any vote for you today, equates to a vote for Bill(y) Huffor in about four years. That would be disastrous for the Office, and the community.
If you are so comfortable with your actions and the running of the Office to date, you have been allowed to run for the past three and a half years, maybe now YOU, not Bill(y) Huffor should consider open debate with Mike Angley, and put to rest the common belief you fear debating the competition.
After all the controversy that occurred at the Republican General Assembly, one would think you would want to get out and show the voters that you are the good guy you so vehemently claim to be. if you are to busy or otherwise concerned, you could send Lt Huffor as your stand in. Remember you were given our trust once, if you want it again, then step up to the plate.
From the sheriff’s office website:
Honesty: Our personal and professional behavior will be a model for all to follow. Our actions will match our words. We will have the courage to stand up for our beliefs and do what is right.
Loyalty: We are loyal to our oath to protect the constitutional rights of those we serve by empowering our employees to make decisions that support the letter and spirit of the law.
Unity: We have a united commitment to serve our diverse community with fairness, dignity, and equality. We commit to excellence in all we do.
I would say the SO’s command staff FAILED miserably at all of the above. The commanders, bureau chief and other lieutenants that were witnesses to the events or were made aware of what happened and DID NOTHING are a disgrace to the office, the badge, and the community. Bill Elder is no leader and the daily actions by him and his cronies are proof.
Can’t wait to see the KRW report from Sept 2017 interviews/focus groups. That report will show everyone what a lousy leader Bill Elder is. The employees see it and the voters are starting to see it.
I must say that I enjoyed the Assembly Process once again. A different twist for me this go around as I posed as an Elder supporter along with my BFF to cast my vote for Angley. There were several of us there posing and we enjoyed watching Huffor actually believe that we were there for Elder. Jokes on you Huffor! Now on to the Primary Election to finish him off. I am hoping to see some much needed changes from Angley when he takes over. Hopefully his first order of business would be getting rid of the Huffors! Then on to removing those people Elder promised high paying civilian promotions before he took office and new positions he just made up for his friends. The undersheriff may have to stop his 2 hour lunches with O’Meal. How tragic! How did that promotion work out for you Sheriff? I heard that her employees are transferring out of her section like rats off a ship. We will continue to play the poser game while at work so the Elder campaign doesn’t know who to trust. I hope other posers post here. I truly enjoyed watching this go down.
Much like the Academy Awards, here are the top 10 things I noticed at the Republican Assembly:
1. (THE RED CARPET) Paula Presley still turns heads, or in this case entire grown men. In the hallway of tables leading to the assembly hall there was limited space to walk without shuffling along with the herd. I happened to notice Mitch Lincoln, Tom DeLuca and Rob King making their way through the crowd. From the opposite direction and drawing some attention came Paula Presley, Immediately and with what could only be described as “Military Precision”, the three stooges did a 180 in the opposite direction. She obviously still scares the stuffing out of them. (Advantage Paula)
2. (THE YAPPING TOY POODLE) Billy Huffor was on hand to try and intimidate what he believed to be Angley delegates among EPSO deputies both current and retired. I understand he ran off two but one retired deputy all but kicked him aside much like a heel hound. The two delegates the he did manage to run off were substituted by countless undecided delegates who after watching this Muppet Show voted for Angley. Billy just can’t help himself, this is the guy you remember from high school who got hung by his undershorts inside his locker. Uncle Bill his given him a title and Janet forgot to lock the cage. (Advantage Angley)
3. (TINY TIM ACT) Joy Elder managed to hobble in on her crutches to support her hubby Bill. No doubt this was a Herculean effort on her part what with the throngs of Bill supporters pushing for a closer look. Maybe not, after the assembly Joy walked out across the large open courtyard with what seemed to be ease in her step only occasionally bumping the crutches along the ground. Once she reached the steps leading to the courtyard she tucked the crutches under her arm and simply walked down the two flights of stairs. (Advantage Angley)
4. (GRUMPY OLD MAN) Larry Borland was on hand to support Bill (His Paycheck). He was his usual stone face “I just stepped in dog crap and tracked it on the new carpet” self. What a joy this guy must be to live with. He’s still counting the 1A money but it’s not likely that Ebenezer brought in many delegates for Bill. (Advantage Angley)
5. (WHAT HAVE I DONE) Pete Carey has to be asking himself this question or at least he had that look all day. Finding out first hand what a jackass your friend is puts a certain look on your face, you know that look a guy gets when she says “Honey I’m Pregnant”. How does it feel Pete? Now two organizations of people think you’re a putz. Welcome to the FOB Friends of Bill! (Advantage Angley)
6. (WHAT HAVE I DONE II) Darryl Glenn, your look when the final count came in was priceless, it looked just like the guy who mixed up the video tapes he sent to his wife and girlfriend, trying desperately to chase down the mailman. I think your guys in trouble Darryl. (Advantage Angley)
7. (MISS HAYSEED OF FAIRPLAY COLORADO) Janet Huffor was so sure that Saturday was her day. Finally, she would come out from behind the shadow of Wendy Habert who was called in to help Bill get into office in the first place. Janet left the assembly alone trying to put on a happy face but by the time she made it to her car she looked like Tammy Fay Baker. Cry, cry, cry (Advantage Wendy Habert)
8. (STEP ASIDE B%#TCH) Wendy Habert once again steps forward with the grace of a rhino pushing her understudy Janet “Hayseed” aside. Wendy could be seen in the assembly hall fanning Bill with a campaign sign. No doubt her man Otis was peeling grapes for Bill on the sidelines. This is Wendy’s House and she wanted everyone to know it. If Bill felt pee running down his leg it may not have been his own but that of Wendy marking her territory. (Advantage Wendy)
9. (THE GREAT PRETENDER) Bill Elder is at best a mediocre real estate broker. He has no business pretending to be the sheriff. He has no leadership skills and no moral compass to carry out the job. He has relied on others to carry him to this point. Many well qualified people helped put him where he is based on hope and promises. Now we all see that Bill Elder is a “Fence Post Turtle” You know he didn’t get there on his own, he has no business being where he is, and he is serving no useful purpose being there. It’s time to take him down. Bill Elder left the county assembly on Saturday an angry man, his jaw was set, his face was red and lil Billy the Yapping toy poodle was at his side. Is this the future you want in the sheriff’s office? (Advantage Angley)
10. (HUMILITY, HONOR, DIGNITY) After most delegates had left the building and long after Bill Elder and his supporters had left the building, the process was still going on. I saw a tired but very dignified man stay until the last vote which was held for his precinct. Mike Angley who shares the same district as Bill Elder stayed to cast his vote for his neighbors. This is someone I can follow; this is someone who will make a difference.
ADVANTAGE……………….The people of El Paso County!
There’s nothing like an Easter Day 4pm Gazette article that might have anything faintly negative to do with the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office. Just is case is disappears overnight:
As CS Lewis said “Readers are advised to remember the devil is a liar.”
As I think back to assembly I have so many disgusted thoughts on how the Elder gang conducted themselves. They turned a day of some many first time delegates eager to participated in the process into a nightmare of threats, intimidation, harassment, and unprofessional behaviors. From Elder himself who denies he did nothing wrong.
Then why when Carey and Evans tried to have you meet with the retired deputy you verbally assaulted and berated for supporting Angley did you respond, “I did nothing wrong”. That is because you are always doing things wrong and this is the norm for you. This is not over so you had better be ready for the next investigation about to come knocking to look into your actions. Election law violations are not something to laugh at.
Huffor, you lil punk, and yes that is what you are. Well you have stepped over the line one to many times and your world is about to come down. Old Bill cannot save you now, and I hope the old command staff are ready. They had better be ready with some official reports and what they you did and why they did not take the proper actions. Sure hope they do not perger themselves, that is a crime.
Bill’s nasty comment has truely hit home in this town of heros who “did” serve in the military and were disabled or must now use handicap plates. Folks with disabilities do vote and have turned on the realtor for good. Best dust off that license, start selling off some toys, and if you are lucky maybe Maxwell well let you work for him.
Bon voyage, and enjoy the retirement. But first you are going to be held accountable for your actions on March 24, 2018. You are not immune,
The writing is pn the wall Folks…..everyone knows that the next Commander promoted will be Lil Billy Huffor.
Does the current Command Staff really want a Commander that behaves as Billy does?
Do the employees of EPSO deserve a lil brat that throws tantrums when he doesnt get his way then lies about his actions?
Does the County of El Paso want this egotistical narcissistic maniac in charge???
Lil Billy has been hand picked and coddled by Elder since day one.
1. Promoted to Sgt. without a normal Promotion process- then placed into a postion that was invented for him- he didnt have to work in the jail as others have too.
2. Rules changed during the LT promotion process to allow lil Billy to compete and be promoted (all of which has been reverted back to the way it was before)
3. Worked as an LT in the jail for a very short period of time, where he worked his own hours and got into some trouble. Then he was placed in a highly coveted new postion (another made up position for Elders buddy Maxwell)
The people of EPSO and the County must know whats going on and where the office is headed.
Let Elder know that you wont stand for it any longer. EPSO Employees are neither dumb or blind. We are fed up.
Once again…our Sheriff attempts to pass the buck and put the blame on the “community” and all the while showing his immense compassion.
THE GAZETTE – Homeless camp near Old Colorado City dismantled in Sheriff Office’s latest effort to clean up county
By: Chhun Sun •
April 4, 2018• Updated: Today at 2:47 pm
About 20 people living along Fountain Creek between Old Colorado City and Manitou Springs were evicted Wednesday, the latest in the El Paso County Sheriff Office’s efforts to dismantle homeless camps.
Sheriff Bill Elder acknowledged that campers are known to pitch tents a few hundred yards away after being told to leave a site. “All we’ve been doing is basically kicking them back and forth between the city and county,” he said. “We’ve got to do better with that. We’re trying to treat these people with dignity and respect and give them time to move on. The community’s got to step up. The community’s got to understand that we’re not going to arrest our way out of the homeless situation.”
Wow…”kicking” our homeless “back and forth?” How touching, Bill. Really showing a lot of heart there, Sheriff. Perhaps a few of these “homeless” were delegates at last week’s assembly…it sounds as if your and your team are treating them with equal “dignity and respect.”
It seems to us that your constant cries of “community” just aren’t working, Bill. Don’t the citizens and leaders of El Paso County respect your thoughts and ideas?
I know we don’t.
Colorado Springs homelessness coalition on the move, expanding health focus
The cleanup came after several complaints by area residents and property owners. Huffor said notices of the cleanup were posted Saturday and Monday.
Shelter beds were available, including 20 at the Springs Rescue Mission on Wednesday. The Salvation Army’s Weber Street emergency warming shelter – which can hold 150 people – housed 80 men and 15 women Tuesday night.
“When there’s a camp cleanup, wherever it is, generally our warming shelter fills up close to capacity,” said Capt. David Kauffman, who leads the Salvation Army’s El Paso County chapter.
Wednesday’s cleanup was conducted along a mile of Fountain Creek.
Several campers declined to be interviewed, though one said he was waiting for the workers to leave before he moved back into the area.
Hmmmmm…..last I checked, its a Sheriif’s Office, meaning the Sheriff can promote whomever they wish (cause you all are so super smart, this may have slipped your notice). Angley will rule with the exact same autocratic/elitism and authority (he knows all about compartmentalized command (his words), just ask him or those who worked under him) new boss meet the old boss….but of course, bringing back to the Office all of the wronged, disgruntled employees who now support him will make things right again. What a crock.
Oh, and since you won’t post this anyway (see? Our group has written many comments to your posts as well….with no response unless we agree with all of the whiny b.s. you spew…yup…psy ops) from what we saw, Evans was nowhere near the Assembly, but hey, you fact check everything, right?
Get a life….
I’m glad your message was posted, also glad you pointed out that “Angley will rule” your words.
Attention all deputies, looks like bill and lil billy are going to make you folks work even shorter than you already are. They feel the need to justify a full-time homeless outreach team. Must be time to payoff some more of his cronies. I am sure while they were talking at the homeless camp today, bill was telling billy to get all these f _ _king cripples out of here. We know the majority of the homeless have mental health issues and this is how bill refers to anyone who has a disability.
Lets see, there are so many promotions on the horizon you are going to need a scorecard to keep track of who is where. There are so many leaks on 5th floor its amazing. Congrats Mitch, how is the koolaid.
Saddle up bill and get ready for more than an 8 second ride, its call karma. There are going to be tough questions and investigations coming at you from every direction, and teflon billy will become even a bigger liability for you.
Its just amazing how many retired military and handicap folks citizens you have offended by your comment at the assembly. Hear your phone ringing, it could be Pam, a tv news reporter, or any number of other agencies looking into violations you and staff committed at the assembly. You may have put off the trial in Denver, but karma is closer than you think to becoming your new best friend.
Lets see how you like being under the microscope. Maybe you need some botox, you are really looking more haggard than ever. Are you more worried than usual? Is the person you talking to really drinking the koolaid or just letting you think they are with you. Must be tough thinking about what you will be doing this time next year, and wondering, what happened!! Its called greed and disrespect.
The dynamic duo are now eviction experts!
Well at least Big Bill is doing something with his real estate experience and teaching lil Billy a new career, he may need it. Once again the Big Bill is on the cheap campaign trail and the local news is once again fooled into giving him air time. Today the target was the homeless camp on the west side. Sheriff Bill is now claiming that this is a “Community” problem. Wrong Bill, now it’s your sticky bogger because you decided to announce it as YOUR campaign promise.
Let’s see how your doing:
You and lil billy have been busy busting up these camps of pot nomads and getting them out from under our bridges but where are they going? Well you’ve managed to upgrade their living conditions Bill, congratulations on checking off your first big campaign item. This group of the counties social under crust has moved into the Pikes Peak Public Library on Cascade Ave, Good job Bill!
That’s right, take a trip down to the library folks, you know the place, it’s where 35% of your property tax goes to fund the new homeless camp of El Paso County. Don’t go there until you’ve stopped by your local health clinic and updated your tetanus and hepatitis shot. Once you get there it’s like a new Disney ride “Underpass World” complete with needles on the floor, people vomiting between the isles of such classics as Moby Dick and Charles Dickens. You’ll find hookers turning tricks in the periodical section, and everyone’s favorite the public restrooms covered in vomit and feces! Think I’m joking, go down and look for yourself at what your tax dollars are buying!
Thanks Bill, what are you going to do about that gang problem you promised to solve, move them into the Antlers?
It was nice of you to clean up the language of your latest news teaser. Everyone already knows the F-bomb was dropped in that comment too.
Once again, Sheriff Bill Elder has managed to step in it. I’ve just go to know just who his Communications Team is??!!
The Gazette – April 5, 2018
‘Innocent bystander’ wounded in gunbattle that killed El Paso County deputy is suing for $1 million
“A civilian wounded in the gunbattle that killed an El Paso County sheriff’s deputy earlier this year is planning to sue the city of Colorado Springs and the county for at least $1 million.”
“Villanueva was described by Sheriff Bill Elder as an “innocent bystander”
Way to go, Bill – You are both judge, jury, (and apparently a witness) this time.
Write the check, El Paso County taxpayers.
…and rest in peace, Micah.
Just following up…
It’s a wonder that at least The Gazette and KRDO both had the grapes to actually report the Villanueva lawsuit. Thank you both for stepping up. Can’t wait to hear El Paso County spokesperson (puppet) Dave Rose tell us that the County “wasn’t aware of any Officer Involved Shooting.”
Anyhow…where’s KOAA, and Fox 21 (granted..A. Chin did a brief “parrot” of KRDO’s initial report on KKTV – maybe she needs another hug or two from Sheriff’s Bill Elder’s wife, Joy? And whatever happened to Fox21 and News Director Joe Cole? He used to have journalistic scruples.) These are the stories, folks…
BTW – Would SOMEBODY/ANYBODY please push for the status of the CSPD/EPSO shooting investigation? It’s been two months…what exactly are you hiding? Just who shot whom??
We know you know…it’s time to tell us.
Looks like another weekend and more cover up by the Elder crew. It sure seems like the friends of bill (FOB) have a problem with taking action when they are eyewitnesses to a crime to report it to the appropriate agency, generate a case report to assist an outside agency concerning the crime, or wait, just handle it internally and pretend it was not that bad. But wait most of Elder’s staff have never completed a case report, investigated a crime or testified in court as a charging officer. How could this be and obtain these high positions? It all depends who you are and who you know, right bill.
After reading the article about Lt Williams in the Gazette, it sure did show he was taking the proper actions as required by office policies. But no Bill and Larry Borland felt the need to protect and cover up his special folks.
I heard there was an incident where two members of your office were involved in a fight, and the victim was actually completely chocked out. Sure does sound like Probable cause for felony charge. That incident should have been investigated and charges filed.
It started out as a fight, a 911 hang up, and a call for service was initiated. EPSO responded up the pass to where the call came from. What happened to that call record, was a case report generated, and was the case forwarded to your friend Dan May for review and filing of charges. Of course not judge bill, it was only handled improperly internally, by you and your staff. Here again, why was this incident not identified as a crime and a criminal case generated. Again failure to report, and all parties involved are guilty of failing to report.
Now that was a whooper, but what about the underage drinking involving the daughter of a reserve Lt and other members of your office. It seems like this episode happened after an awards banquet. This group of employees all tried to extend the evening at TNT’s, a local strip club. But, the bouncer at the door would not allow a the young female entry due to her being underage. At this point, everyone in the group was aware she was under age, and was working for the civilian supervisor. It seemed the deputies in the party attempted to use their influence, and official ID’s to persuade the bouncer to allow entry. Again, denied. Seems like the civilian bouncer had more ethical character than these deputies or office employees.
Here we go again, of course this was handled internally, and not completely by policy, since old bill and larry do not know their own policies and protect his supporters. It would seem like the boys in IA who investigated this incident should have identified a criminal violation after starting their investigation. This incident should have been reported to CSPD for investigation. But hey, Bill just wanted this handled internally to protect the civilian supervisor, deputies, and the daughter of his supporter’s daughter. So many office policies and criminal violations were violated, but hey if you are an FOB, you are immune according to bill. Just ask Billy Huffor.
A final note, what happened to the duty to report by Lincoln, King, DeLuca and several other members at the assembly who witnessed the harassing and threatening behavior by Huffor. We know hey witnessed this because King told the victim, “I guess you just met Bill Huffor.” Were any memos/case report generated to report this harassment, was Huffor ordered off property due to his behavior, were the UCCS police or CSPD notified of the crime that was just witnessed? Surely not, this was an protected elder supporter and husband of campaign manager Janet Huffor.
Well news outlets, newspapers and Dan May how long can you turn your heads, stick them in the sand, or continue to be as guilty as the present sheriff and his staff. Its time for careers to end by being ethical and a true police officer for once. Will you do the right thing, or just keep your mouth shut and end your career in shame when the truth finally comes out and YOU are called to testify and be accountable.
This week marks the anniversary of the Titanic sinking. An unbelievable tragedy brought on by the arrogance of the leadership at the White Star company. Here we go again!
The Elder campaign has taken to desperation. The new tactic within the walls of the EPSO is to have the current staff spread stories of Armageddon should Mike Angley become the sheriff, “He has no experience”.
Folks, it’s the rank and file that carry out the function of law enforcement and detentions. No sitting sheriff pulls a shift in a patrol car or in a ward at the jail, we do. The position of sheriff is about leadership and running an organization. Mike Angley’s leadership experience over Bill Elders is vast.
Bill says he spent years as a deputy and in fact rose to the rank of lieutenant. He was also called into question over finances within his section, sound familiar? He’s failed at running his own finances to the point of bankruptcy. When confronted with these issues, he ran away to become a real estate salesman. Now he’s your Hometown guy with years of law enforcement experience? How many people that Bill Elder promoted to be your supervisors are hometown guys yet completely ineffective as leaders?
Bill Elder and Larry Borland have been playing a shell game with the 1A funds and there’s nothing to show for it. There’s no money for training, overtime, or anything else but payroll for his elite class of friends on the fifth floor. 1A is going to sunset in 2020 what is he doing about it, “FULL SPEED AHEAD”.
In Bills first campaign he said the organization had suffered a “detrimental vicarious impact” and that the Maketa era was done! Yet on day one of the Elder reign he had the same staff plus Hatch walk up and down the halls until the music stopped, then they jumped into the nearest office and simply took on the title posted on the door. Since then our world has been a mess. Now these same people tell us if Angley wins we’ll sail off into the unknown. If Bill Elders idea of leadership is putting Janet Huffor in charge of his entire staff, what kind of experience is steering the boat?
This is nothing more than panic in the hearts of those who fear the gravy train is coming to an end.
Voter response in a primary with a mail-in ballot is historically low and Elder knows it. You don’t have to cross a gauntlet of staff to vote or put on your Elder T-shirt to walk to your mailbox. You, your family and friends can make all the difference in turn out from the privacy of your home. This is why they’re scared and spreading wild stories of doom.
When Ronald Reagan ran for office in 1980 he asked a simple question, “Are you better off now than you were four years ago”. I think the next four years will be a challenge for this office. I think it’s going to take leadership to get us through rough waters. I know what to expect from Bill Elder and the Huffors, like that fabled ship, there’s only enough lifeboats for first class! Start counting off by three’s
My vote is for Mike Angley
What a well written comment. It is sad that is rings loud with the horrible truth. We cannot afford another 4 years as it is. We need a real leader. We need a change. I too, am voting for Angley.
Here’s the ugly part of 1A sunsetting in 2020 if not renewed. A LOT of deputies will lost their jobs if that funding is lot. But…. which ones will lose their jobs? Simple… those who are identified as 1A deputies. But which ones are those?
Ahhh… therein lies the problem. Are you a current deputy? Is there a “1A” tagged next to your name on the master roster? Doesn’t matter what is used to be, what matters is where it is now. You see, those designations have changed since Elder got elected. I watched the changes taking place on the roster. Today, you are not a “1A” deputy. Tomorrow, you are.
Elder never provided a comment on why the positions were moved around, but I think we all know.
If you are a current deputy, and not a big Elder supporter, you have a problem on your hands. One of those “1A” noted may be next to YOUR name now.
No need to schedule retirement ceremonies each month, nobody is opting to have one. Everyone would rather just leave and not have to stand in the same room with these dim bulbs. It’s like “Cake with a Cop” another Elder political event.
So Bill Elder wants to find out who is behind this website, so much so that he may have asked Pete Carey to help get to the bottom of it. Why would Bill Elder go to such lengths to get this information? Mr. Elder, first you call Pam Zubecks reporting “Crap” and now you wish to unmask the authors of this website. I think you don’t like the public being aware of the truth. This website has backed up most of it’s stories with DOCUMENTS. Many of these have come from within your organization so there is no doubting their authenticity. I’d also point out that a good number of them have your signature.
If we were to wait on the Gazette, FOX21, KKTV, KRDO, KOAA or KVOR radio to report any of this it would never come to light. It is odd that in what’s considered a conservative community, that all the local media have circled the wagons much like the “Main stream media” that they complain about. You would think that the stories produced on this website along with the DOCUMENTATION provided would at least garner a story on say page six, but no. This is why this website is in business. It is no different than the “Call for Action” segments on Channel 5 or any other watchdog formats seen on local news.
When common people get sick and tired of no results from their public officials they tend to take action. This philosophy is what made this country and what continues to keep it going. When you call all of us liars because we question you, when you call us cripples because you feel the heat of defeat closing in, when you protect your inner circle while they make a mockery of the organization they represent, when you dismiss us because we question your twisted logic we take action as we do on this website.
We do it anonymously because as we’ve seen by your actions at work and at the county assembly, you take reprisal actions against us. You threaten us during In-Service training, you have your Command Staff do the same, you meet us with a picket line at the assembly, you send your lieutenants to intimidate us, your commanders open our envelopes to see that we are voting for you. This website is a product of the fear and intimidation tactics that you alone have created, practiced and expanded.
Mr. Elder if you wish to know who is behind this website, take a look in the mirror, IT’S YOU!
The sting of a remark is usually in proportion to it’s truth.
Well said, We the People,
The office is loosing so many good people who have had enough of this administrations crap. Wow, three Sgt’s in one week, that is unheard of for this office.
By the way, how are all those IA investigations going? St Charles and Hilte, are you getting these investigations investigated throughly and unbiased, or are you drinking the Elder kool-aid? Probably not, no backbone or integrity in either of you. Its amazing how these complaints all involve Huffor, your chosen golden boy. You may protect him on the in-house complaints, but what about the criminal complaint that was filed reference to his behavior at the assembly.
Have the two commanders, the Bureau Chief and who knows how many other employees witnessed Huffor’s behavior been interviewed yet. Bet they still have not completed their duty to report memos on lil Billy harassing a retired deputy (private citizen) at the assembly.
Bill, are you just going to give your standard lie, its your word against mine. Probably how billy will answer when interviewed. Like father like son. Be interesting how this complaint shakes out. Just waiting to see if this needs to elevated to the next level for investigation and prosecution.
Is this why Lincoln moved up his retirement sooner. As soon as he was mentioned as witnessing this crime, he conveniently moved up his retirement date. Its okay, they will find you to be interviewed and get your subpoena for court.
Just a final question, to all those retired military folks supporting Elder, just curious how many of them have a disability rating, DV plates on their vehicles, really feel about you referred to them as cripples, just because of having a service related disability. This is something Elder would know nothing about, military service, but he did wear a pathfinder medal which he never earned.
Sorry Bill, you just need to go before you finish destroying the good people still working at the sheriff’s office, I’m sure they are tired of the lack of leadership, cronyism, and lack of budgetary transparency. Probably due to over spending staffing the fifth floor too many chiefs (Campaign donators) and not enough indians, (dedicated employees).
Stand by good people of the EPSO and private citizens, your next vote is in private, so vote if you want the same leaders for four more years, or a new administration that values and appreciates your work on a daily basis.
Vote to get Bill and company gone, and help build the new administration. You are the biggest part of making this office great and professional, again. Vote for Angley.
Anyone can be a sheriff, or leader of any kind, when the sun is shining and everyone is happy. The test comes when things aren’t sunny. That is when you see what a person is made of.
Right now, things aren’t sunny. Look at retention; good people walking away–no, they are running away–from a county sheriff. They should be running TO the Sheriff. They should be looking for a job here in EPSO. But they are not. Instead, they are running away.
And how is Bill Elder handling this? He yells, swears, calls his electoral opponent a cripple. He avoids live interviews.
Bill Elder is in over his head. He is in a panic.
People voted against Hillary Clinton for the same reason, and thank goodness. Hopefully, people will do the same and vote for MIKE ANGLEY for Sheriff.
Wow what will be next? Just amazing you have a commander who cannot be alone with any female employee. You have a Lt who is banned from dispatch because he does not understand NO! You have another LT who thinks its okay to do remedial training by patting down a female on camera.
What do all of these predators have in common, the same protector, the good old home town boy protecting his boys from criminal prosecution or in house discipline.
Is this any way for a leader to act. Has he ever heard what happens when you protect and keep these types of employees on staff. Do the math bill, this equals $$$$. These folks need start suing you personally and make you accountable for allowing this behavior to continue, its not a big secret.
Wake up people, this is no different than having a sexual predator released from prison. At least you get notified he has moved in to the neighborhood. Bill needs to issue warning where he is assigning his own office predators.
The only way to stop this behavior is to make everyone of them accountable, either criminally or filing a civil suit. Would you allow you own children to be treated this way? Become a whistle blower and report this behavior to HR, Bill says he supports this for the protection of his employees. Make it happen!!!
This behavior is probably just one step away from a rape or worse. Curb this unprofessional dangerous behaviors now. Stand up for yourself and the rest of your family at the office.
It looks like Lincoln is gone now, how much longer before the other two leave? This was not a big loss to retirement, he never really had any special talents or accomplishments.
I hear old Tom got chocked up and could not finish his little speech. But why would lil billy get up to make a speech, as a thank you to Mitch for protecting him and covering up his assault. I wonder who the next promotion will be, surely it will be another butt kissing yes man.
Tic, tic, tic, how are those IA cases on little Billy coming. I hear the inspector agreed a crime had been committed by Huffor. So why not stop this investigation, report the crime, have the IA investigation follow the criminal. Is this not procedure and policy? I sure hope they interview all the witnesses, especially the one that just retired and King. King’s comment, “I guess you just met Bill Huffor”. Wow. that proves he was a witness for both the IA, the criminal investigation, and possibly a civil suit.
So Bill, is billy worth protecting? We know you wanted him to be sheriff, but he is not even qualified to be a cop with integrity, just like you, none.
Look out for more breaking news from the fifth floor next week, should be very interesting. Cover up’s, complaint investigations, should be completed next week. The road to the next level of investigation is already in place. I hope you folks do the right thing and do not become a part of a cover up and a party to future litigation.
Tic, tic, tic, who will turn in paper next. How about the harassing patrol Lt, oh wait there are several of those. Cannot wait to hear, another one bites the dust.
Citizens of El Paso County, have you had enough yet? Your chief law enforcement official “Bill Elder” doesn’t know the law. His most recent blunder will cost us dearly in tax money to be REWARDED to illegals because he has no idea what he’s doing. The Colorado Supreme Court has blown him out of the saddle which will result in a grand payout. A similar case in Denver county resulted in the victims receiving about 10k per day for their overstay of four days. Bill kept these people for months!
It’s official “Colorado Springs is a Sanctuary City” thanks to Bill Elder. No doubt we’ll soon be the highlight of MSNBC and other liberal news outlets. Maybe Bill can get interviewed by Joe & Mika. Had we simply been signed on to the 287g program all would be well, but NO! The much heralded financial genius of Bill “Bankruptcy” Elder has struck again. Having this guy as our sheriff is like having a mental patient holding a bottle of nitroglycerin while under anesthesia.
• Mark Waller
• Peggy Littleton
• Longinus Gonzalez
• Stan VanderWerf
• Darryl Glenn
YOU ALL ENDORSED THIS FOOL!
Peggy Littleton led the charge for a vote of No Confidence on Terry Maketa for alleged sexual affairs but she gives this idiot a pass? Pull your heads out Commissioners, you too must run for re-election and if you’re not at the table, you’re on the menu! The sexual harassment cases are growing along with the retaliation cases and the deplorable conduct at the county assembly not to mention this latest gaff that will cost we the tax payers several hundred thousand.
If three people tell you there’s a stick up your butt, you don’t need to wait for the X-Rays to come back! Four more years of Bill Elder and we’re San Francisco East”. Wake up people, vote to get rid of this fool and take a long hard look at the County Commissioners who are supporting and endorsing him.
The HR reporting process began when the Sheriff was “acting” like he wanted transparency. However, when the very first HR investigation revealed the level of harassment taking place in the office, the Sherrif quickly shut that process down in order to stop the bleeding HR was uncovering in the highest echelons of the command staff who protect the lower ranking harassers in order to protect the environment at EPSO. HR recommended termination, but the Sheriff elected to only demote and then got rid of the process. He brought the process back to EPSO when he turned the reporting process over to the county attorneys who protect the Sheriff’s office. Hence, nothing is being done since that happened. HR cracked the shell on the environment at EPSO and the Sheriff realized he was in over his head allowing the environment to be seen and leaked by employees who were coming forward to give statements. They also caught on to the retaliation that takes place in the office allowing him to abuse his power amongst many of the women at EPSO.
Reporting to HR is no longer an option, they were uncovering the corruption. So the county paid the employee for what happened to her, never even fought the allegations she brought against the county because they were proven. They sought her out to settle her proven case in order to avoid the “A Rated” EEOC complaint filed against them. Then, the process was handed over to the county attorney to make sure no one ever came close again to uncovering the truth.
It’s going to take EEOC complaints to uncover anything at all. All of us still here at EPSO need to break the in-ranks cycle of reporting by taking it outside the agency through the means of having an untrustworthy process for reporting.
“The rising wave of sexual misconduct scandals involving men from Hollywood to Colorado’s halls of power has employers on high alert.”
Taken directly from the article. Wow! “Colorado’s halls of power” mentioned in the same sentence as the highly publicized “men from Hollywood.”
How ironic! All while sexual harassment sweeps the halls at EPSO, with only one of those harrasors being punished to date. And only because he was the only one investigated by HR, who recommend doing something about what was un-covered. Since then, they process has been stopped in order to keep others known harrasors from facing the same fate. Elder never knew his fake wanting of a “transparent” process would uncover so much.
Read this eye-opening article about Colorado’s issues related to the #Me Too movement. If EPSO had smarter leadership, they could have been ahead of this movement by doing what was recommended and firing that Sergeant instead of demoting him, would have kept the process at HR to continue cleaning up the place as employees cake forward, and and would have fired the rest of the harrassing men we still have to see and work around everyday. Our leadership isn’t smart though, many of them are harassers themselves. And so, instead of being trailblazers for the movement; they are now caught in the embarrassment of being one of the th abusers of “Colorado’s halls of power.”
Morning to all the dedicated employees of EPSO, keep your heads up help is on its way. I cannot imagine what its like to work for a man who has tossed integrity out the window for self preservation.
I sure hope he has note or a score card to remember what lies or stories he is telling to different people. I hear an employee, (you know who you are) called Bill and asked him making the comment, calling Mike Angley (and all other DV) fucking cripples. But again Bill mumbles and tells this person ahhh, someone must of misheard something said during a phone call. Are you kidding me. First of all it was not during a phone call, but at the assembly to a retired deputy. He knows perfectly well he made this comment, but its too late to back track the comment, too many people know.
Well lying Bill, why did Carey and Evans try and put together a meet between you and the citizen reference to this comment you made to him. They sure believed you said it, that was the reason for the meeting. Again you lied and said it was just your word against his. Obviously your word means nothing. Next, another Police Chief set up a meeting, this time the meeting last but minutes and the citizen walks out after you deny this comment. So why would another chief set up and attend this meeting with the citizen. Pretty obvious, you are the only one not believed.
So, I hope all the employees you have threatened and mistreated all file EEOC complaints on you and your administration. I think its time for the DOJ to be notified and become involved in your filthy, crooked administration, plus look into all the financial dealing during your administration. Obviously you will not provide any comprehensive financial reports of where money in being spent, so maybe the fed can assist you in this little investigation.
Your time has come, best get a good cardiac doctor, because I think you are being examined closer than you could ever imagine already.
Thanks for this latest tip, you old kool-aid drinker.
The IA’s should be completed soon, so we can see the latest cover ups and creative writing skills of the elder faithful. They must need the job more than a conscious.
Your folks are leaving you like roaches on extermination day, who will be next this week?
Spot on Tax Payer!
Folks, don’t fall for the old school yard trick, “Your shoes untied”. Next thing you know you’re on your butt and everyone is laughing.
This is exactly what your county commissioners or specifically Mark Waller are doing to you. Mr. Waller played on Bill Elders ego and stupidity to get him to turn over his budget to the commissioners. Now Mark can skim funds to make his “Widen I-25” project a go and fool you into thinking he’s a great guy. This is why the commissioners are endorsing Elder. They need a nitwit as sheriff to keep the game going, who better than Elder the predictable fool.
Angley seems to be a problem for the republican old guard. From every commissioner down to Missy Ward. Did you notice that these same people all agreed that no matter how much money the Public Safety Tax brings in they can spend it! You don’t know how or where it’s being spent.
“YOUR SHOES UNTIED”
You’re on your butt and everyone is laughing. Get up and VOTE.
Was is the “cat stuck in the tree” story…or your “great new food truck on Powers” expose’…or was it your way too numerous to mention “EPSO ‘illegal’ marijuana busts” articles that garnered you this prestigious award? Just who actually voted for this award? I’m guessing it was those who have never had their fingers unfortunately ink stained by your “stories.”
Yeah. We’re reading. We noticed. And we WILL vote for Mike Angley this June.
Hey…there’s an idea for an article for you. Just sayin’…
Interesting…. we all know that Elder has gutted the patrol division to have positions (money) for other things. I felt it would be good to show my friend and neighbors that crime has increased in my area of the county, which it has. The easiest way would be to show them all of the incident on the map at CrimeReports.com, a website that EPSO has uploaded crime stats to for year.
Well…. I should have known. Nothing on CrimeReports.com anymore. Seems the Office has stopped reporting to them. Hiding something?
I know I am late in talking about this, so I apologize. That being said, why is the sheriff not held to a standard of transparency when it comes to the budget? The accountability of his budget has not been shared with the tax payers and I want someone, (i.e. County Commissioners) to answer this question. I would also like to know why $ 1.4 million dollars was removed from the Gateways Through the Rockies (GTR) budget. This was a restricted fund under the old sheriff? I am aware the money was there in January 2015. I was the assistant director and helped prepare the budget for GTR. The money is no longer in their budget.
I use my name in my posts because I will not be intimidated by anyone to include this regime. I worked for the sheriff’s office for just shy of ten years. When the new regime came on board, the lies and deceit that came from the command staff was more than I was willing to accept, so I quit. I could share more but why?
Where are the 1A funds and the GTR funds being used ? I know this is rhetorical question but it should be answered.
It’s NEVER too late to question the lack of “budget transparency” from the Bill Elder administration. In addition to the Gateways’ $$, we need to remember that the budget for Concealed Handguns (also previously “restricted”) was somehow incorporated into the EPSO General Fund in early 2016 with no explanation ever given. Seemingly odd, with all that extra tax-payer 1A money rolling in…
With journalistic integrity all but vanished in this county, it’s up to those who know where the bodies are buried to keep these stories in the public eye.
Nowadays, it would make sense to the the R or D after the names of media outlets, just like politicians such as “Senator John Smith (R) of some state.” We could have “Fox News (R), New York, or KRDO News (D), Colorado Springs.
I just don’t get what kind of favors must be running around here that all of the local media, except the Indy, refuse to talk about Elder’s corruption.
I wonder how the Elders, Huffors, and the rest of his command staff have the gull to call themselves Christians and men of integrity. How can you look at your spiritual leaders and act like everything thing is okay and the allegations on this site are false and miss-interpreted.
The allegations are pretty black and white. How can you look in the mirror, give a speech and know in your heart everything coming out of your mouth is a lie. You are no better than a common criminal. You are one of the worse liars ever, and you know everything written has been vetted, verified, and was obtained from people with real integrity.
Why did you suspend two employees immediately when it became know they were involved in a verbal domestic issue. The only thing you were concerned about all the bad press you would receive from this incident.
Amazingly one of the parties was the daughter of a commander and was the accuser of Huffor in the sexual harassment case you made go away. Reminder: King wrote in his “verbal” counseling you committed a “serious” violation, this tells me it happened as alleged, but you needed to save lil billy. Notice the double standard here, Huffor commits a serious violation, but crooked bill makes it go away.
You tell Pam Zubeck the incidents and quotes that were alleged to have happened at the county assembly were over stated or again, mis-interpreted. Sounds like the standard response of a liar. For once in your life bill, tell the truth before its too late. What about the cover ups involving other supporters involved in being present and supporting the underage drinking of an underage dispatcher in a public restaurant. (Oh, by the way this was the daughter of your Posse Reserve Lt who has an unmarked Tahoe assigned to him.) You forget this since the incident was kept in house and not reported to the DA for investigation or prosecution. You would have to have ethics to do whats right to report this to be investigated, but this would also draw negative attention to your crooked administration.
What about the three deputies in Cascade involved in a physical altercation and no one charged. Again this was kept in house to avoid more publicity so the public would not see what crooked operation you run, and see the real Bill Elder, phony man of god. You claim you are a man of religious scruples, but only in word not in practice. Stay home on Sunday, obviously you are wasting your time and that of the church members you have snowed. I bet after talking to you they need to go home and shower, especially knowing there is something sinister and evil about you.
Amazing King, DeLuca, and Lincoln got memory loss and do not remember the criminal actions involving Huffor. Well this complaint is not over and state authorities are getting notified as you read this. Also, more civil suits are getting ready to be filed.
Bill, you may of been ethics back in the late 70’s, but that is even questionable. Meow, meow. Look in the mirror and be honest, all you see is a tired, old liar who should be ashamed of your decisions, your cover ups, and you have no respect from your troops. They see who you really are and its time you do too.
Its time for you to go, you are the most hated sheriff ever in the history of this county.
Do not forget about the female deputy that was having an inappropriate relationship with an inmate. Video and audio Evidence of this ongoing relationship. She was not criminaly charged w sex assault (as she should have been) and I would dare to bet a PREA violation was not documented. She was able to throw smoke and leave along with her inmate assaultive boyfriend Also with no charges……
I am willing to disclose all I know. I have spoken with others about these funds and other things but i assume it have fallen on deaf ears. I wish there were leaders I could speak with that would take an interest. Maybe the new democrat running for sheriff would like some insight. I will contact her if she ever gets a website. Time will tell. I also concur about the media.
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Well, well, well, after reading the two articles in the CSIndy, it Sounds like this would be a GREAT time for the current sheriff (Elder), to enter into open debate with the challenger(s), there is a Democrat running for the Office of the Sheriff as well as a highly qualified Republican, Veteran, and well educated competitor. Come on Mr. Elder, come talk to us tax paying citizens with the other candidates, and look us in the eye and explain your actions, and what your plans for the future are. Or is your plan to get another four years as a “Lame Duck”, then prop your over paid sidekick to run so he can then in turn take care of Big Bill in his retirement years? You pride yourself on being Transparent in your actions. Maybe now is the time to put your (our) money where your mouth is. And as a disabled Veteran myself, something Bill Elder knows nothing about, you may want to edit your comments about Fing cripples, as we are the ones that Served and Protected the nation while you chose to stay home and serve your own interest.
KKTV – 4/18/18
“Uber sticker seen on law enforcement truck”
“FOUNTAIN, Colo. (KKTV) – Our 11 News crew did a double take when they saw an Uber sticker for the ride-sharing app, on the inside of the windshield on an El Paso County Sheriff’s truck.”
“A picture of the EPSO vehicle (http://media.graytvinc.com/images/810*1080/SHERIFF310.jpg)
was taken at the command center for the 117 Fire. When we asked the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office about it, they were not aware of the sticker on this truck. Sheriff Bill Elder guaranteed 11 News the truck has not been used to give anyone a ride for Uber and says it was meant to be a joke.”
“It is frustrating because everybody is working hard, every vehicle here has been deployed in some way shape or form to the 117 fire. It very much caught me off guard, it caught our administration off guard. But we have corrected it and will take disciplinary action if necessary,” (Jackie) Kirby said.
The sheriff’s office says the sticker is a violation of their policy, so there will probably be an investigation into why it was there.
It’s once again shocking that they “were not aware.” This pattern of being “unaware” of issues as they arise is becoming more than a little troublesome. This is just one more example of the continuous lack of respect for Sheriff Bill Elder. In a time of absolute crisis and terror for so many El Paso County citizens this week, his employees were just playing a little “joke.” Hysterical.
I’m sure that KKTV’s will be following-up regarding the “investigation” and “disciplinary action.”
It is truly a sad day when you realize how bad a place you retired from has gone. You remember the days where people were excited and proud to say they worked at the EPSO. Not any longer, since Elder has become sheriff, it has been nothing but a downhill slide due to his incompetence, lack of moral turpitude, and running an agency he has no ability to lead. He has done nothing but staff the fifth floor with inept, over paid people who are incapable of honest leadership. Elder surrounds himself with yes people to blame bad leadership on everyone but himself.
Wow, Pam Zubeck hit the nail on the head with her information on your son, Huffor. How the hell can you keep giving this punk so many merit and performance raises when he was never qualified to be promoted in the first place. He was disciplined for sexual harassment, he had an accidental discharge of a shotgun shortly after being promoted. But wait you did another policy change to cover this incident. He backed his unit into a post, but did not have to go through the same reporting procedures as any one else would do, because of his entitled status. What about three IA complaints in a one week after the county assembly? Lets look at the lazy commanders and Chief who quickly retired rather that have to do his first supplement report during his career.
I hope the people of this county and all our veteran community are taking note of how you really feel about them. From talking to this group of folks on a daily basis, you have got to know you are the most disrespected, incompetent example of a leader they have ever seen.
Word on the street is you have shielded billy through cover-up’s, policy changes, and controlling the lack of integrity IA section by these investigators and Lt. Some how you have scared the little UCCS police into stalling the complaint investigation on billy, to avoid publicity. There are so many citizens who were at the assembly who don’t know you, and now definitely want nothing to do with you are voting for true leadership and integrity, Mike Angley. They shared their concern about the tension they felt at assembly from the time they walked in until assembly was over due to the thug actions of your leadership folks.
Best get on a regular stress relief program, EPSO staff, looking like you are about to be hit with something you never expected. This time you can do nothing to stop this, you have no influence, and we will see your world totally turned upside down. I hope it was worth it protecting a thug, but “if” you were smart, you would do the right thing. But you are not! So get ready for the sinking of the SS Elder will come and a new day will finally begin in Jan 2018. Hang tough to the dedicated folks still at EPSO, their is a true investigation about to begin and you will need to be more supportive than ever as the leadership will truly have their actions and decisions reviewed like never before. Go buy some Aleve, you will need it.
Wow Elder you were so angry after seeing an UBUR sticker on an office vehicle. It was a joke, but yet you are willing to commit resources to find out who did it. So what if it turns out to be your son Billy, or Janet, or I am just trying to stay under the radar Jacki. Like every other incident, this too will end in a Letter of Counseling. Its your style.
You are a joke, when you receive information of real crimes, all you do is go hide in your office. You choose to ignore the information because you are already getting enough bad publicity.
Whats going to happen with the DV case IA is investigating? Should that not have been reported to the DA for investigation to make the decision on whether to prosecute, or are you an attorney also? What about the underage drinking incident, you did nothing to the supervisor. Oh wait, she got a letter of counseling, sound familiar folks. What about the deputies involved who are paid to enforce CRS, sounds like thugs with a badge. Appears only the underage drinker received a letter of reprimand. The reason this was kept quiet is because she was the daughter of Greg Maxwell, in charge of security at the Broadmoor. As a father and a part-time reserve deputy, should have reported this incident to CSPD or the DA to determine if charges should be pursued. What do you think folks, duty to report sound familiar. Again, not here, a friend of bill’s not wanting bad publicity. Hell, Greg might lose his take home vehicle and he is a civilian reserve. Makes no sense, likes to dress like a cop but will not do real cop work when it gets tough. Turn in all your stuff and be a security guard, that is more your style.
Tom Clements, whats going on here Bill, no guts to pursue the real criminals? If you do not have the ethical drive to do whats right for another law enforcement agency brother. This just proves you are only in this for the money and recognition of the position. Sad to see, but once you are soundly defeated in the primary, best be calling Tom hoping to get your old job back. You are going to be one lonely pathetic individual when you are no longer the sheriff.
Whats going to happen then Bill, when the phone no longer rings, you still going to be calling people asking if we are okay. No, you will be a sad individual with no one taking your calls. Think back, what happened? You could have done some good for the office, but the only way you could keep yes people around and support you was to over pay them, protect them and hope the good employees kept the office operating. Sorry to say even these folks will desert you when you are no longer their meal ticket.
Turn out the lights on your way out, do not look back, because no one is there to wish well. Its SAD!!!
I find this so typical of Elder and his minions. There will be an investigation into the Uber sticker, yet, his God son commits sexual harassment, and things get swept, shoved, driven under the carpet. When will he do something about little Billy? This reminds me of the “influenza ” kid. Sheriff Elder, when, sir will you show yourself to be the Lead law enforcement officer of the county,that your position demands, and stop acting like a “Godfather “?
The talk of the Sheriff’s Office is they are handing out reprimands left and right. Are these for what otherwise would be a teaching moment? What do they have in common? Could they be targeting employees that are NOT supporting Elder for reelection? Could these be strong arm tactics to bring you into submission?
One the other hand, real crimes (DV, Contributing to the deliquencey of a minor, voter intimidation, transmitting sexually explicit photos, etc) are undisciplined, under disciplined, and not prosecuted. What do these have in common? Are they ELDER SUPPORTERS?
So smile and proudly take your “letter of counsel” or “IA”. They are unknowingly handing you evidence.
Can anyone say $$$$class action$$$$.
In case you haven’t noticed, primary season is upon us. In a free society, no big deal but with Elder we all get a taste of what it’s like to live under the rule of an ego maniac. Bill along with his heir apparent Billy are pulling out all the stops to remain in power. The entire staff has been given their term paper project to root out all opposition and Angley collaborators and drive them out.
People are worried about having the ominous “1A” moniker attached to their name on the great roster. The whole gang is on board or as Bill likes to say “Rowing in the same direction”. If you think you can’t trust them now, what makes you think it will be better with another four years of Elder? The same people you don’t trust now will only get more power and become more obnoxious. If Larry Borland finally ops for Medicare perhaps Jackie Kirby will become the next “Civilian Bureau Chief”.
If you don’t want the stress of having “1A” after your name……………..then VOTE to have “SHERIFF” in front of Mike Angley.
I saw at the county assembly how dirty politics really are conducted. You have delegates intimidated, you have a police department afraid to perform their duties they swore to uphold, then you have the head of the Republican Party engaging in secret meetings with the current sheriff and his campaign manager in the sheriff’s office prior to assembly
Amazing, this meeting was observed and the conversations heard discussing strategies and whether or not elder should debate Angley. It sure does help when you have the head of the Republican Party giving advice to one candidate over the other. What happened to being neutral for the integrity of the party. Looks good on paper, but is not practiced it appears. Goes to show the unethical behavior of our own Republican Party Leader and how afraid the Elder campaign is to stoop to this level.
Look it up, Elder supported this person in his failed attempt at office back several years and now he is the head of the party, and returning the favor. Please, does anyone else see a problem with this behavior. If you do please call party headquarters and demand Josh to relinquish his position, he does not deserve to be a leader just like the one he is supporting.
Come on media, call Elder, Janet and Josh out to have a press conference and deny this meeting happened. Better yet, how about all three volunteering to a CVSA test to prove it did not happen.
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