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The March 24th and 27th articles point to a serious amount of potential corruption in the EPSO. First, you report that the County Attorney (Amy Folsom) recommends the elimination of the Sheriff’s office HR department. That can only mean that the Sheriff’s HR is inept and/or corrupt. And a messed up HR department usually means lawsuits from those who’s employment rights have been violated.
And the Monday report, that a supervisor accused of sexual harassment has been assigned to the same shift as the person who made the complaint, clearly shows that Amy Folsom is right. The County Commissioners had better make that move, and make it quickly.
Unless, of course, they are part of the corruption. Is a cover-up in progress? And given the County Commissioners’ continued public support for Sheriff Bill Elder, what other conclusion could you make?
I think I remember that Elder came to be Sherriff after the County Commissioners, led by Peggy Littleton, dropped their support for Sheriff Maketa, who eventually resigned. And following that, the District Attorney convened a Grand Jury that ultimately indicted Maketa, Paula Pressley, and Juan San Agustin on various charges.
But here we are, a year later, and the only thing that has really happened in the legal world is that Maketa, Pressley, and San Agustin have filed notice of intent to sue. Where is the criminal trial? Are the charges real, or are they about to evaporate? Is the County trying to silence or intimidate Maketa, Pressley, and San Agustin? Is the corruption so widespread as to involve key figures in El Paso County Government?
The only way to get rid of corruption is for the media to keep reporting; but for some reason, the Gazette is silent.
Please keep us updated on the criminal trials for Maketa, Pressley, and San Agustin, and on the status of their pending lawsuits.
Simply Google Maketa and you will find he is headed to trial the end of May. The others entered a plea and are silently waiting to see what happens in the Maketa trail before making any deals. Their lawsuits are just a distraction from the real concerns regarding their actions.
We had not really thought much about the up coming trial(s) as we are focused on Bill Elder, his leadership team, and the current environment. But you bring up some interesting points.
Also to clarify; Presley and San Agustin have not submitted pleas yet.
Maketa retired, he did not resign.
All the more power to the group behind this dirtyelder.com website! Many of us commend you for taking a stance and not being afraid to expose the filth and corruption of Bill Elder and his cronies (and we all know who they are)!
It’s no surprise the County is playing their diversion tactics and trying to keep focus off of Bill Elder and his corruption! They are just as much a part of the curruption! It’s a shame so many lives have been damaged because of it; but hey, those little bitxhes can’t run for long. The truth will prevail and it will be too late for them to beg for forgiveness. In due time they will have to face the wrath and pay for their sins!
And Bill Elder should be thrown out of office for blatebtly lying to the taxpayers/voters of this community and damaging the lives of some very good former employees of EPSO. He is a disgrace and is the one guilty of abusing power. POS
Look, the Grim Reaper (aka Bill Elder) has already reared his ugly face. We don’t have to wait for him to arrive, he is already here! He injected his poison back in 2014 and it hasn’t stopped since! His evil will only continue to destroy this Office. It has already ruined the lives and reputations of some very good people; it has fostered an environment of sexual harassment and sexual deviance from those he holds close, and has cast a very black dark cloud over the Office. More lives will be ruined and the taxpayers will continue to get fucXed. What the heck will it take to remove the cancer that is Bill Elder and his “Command Staff” of idiots, Amy Folsom, Diana May and Lisa Kirkman, D-bag Darrly Glenn, etc? What will it take?
Good Point, the Grim Reaper has arrived. We have updated the post. The Grim Reaper has already ruined multiple lives and will ruin many more before he’s done.
I have followed this site for quite some time and cannot believe a man of Bill Elder’s integrity and ethics would allow this crap to happen! Here’s some advice for Bill:
1. Surround yourself with qualified personnel that will uphold the code of ethics of the department! You owe no one on your staff a damn thing–despite the SMALL donations they made to your election. Both Huffors are immature and not ready for the position you entrusted them to have. If Bill Huffor is your mentee and destined to be your replacement then you need take a serious look in the mirror and call yourself an idiot!
2. Be a leader and rid yourself of those not meeting your expectations. It’s about the EPSO and you MUST bring back professionalism and integrity to the department-you did promise that?
It’s time for you to step up and BE THE SHERIFF!
“…and cannot believe a man of Bill Elder’s integrity and ethics would allow this crap to happen!”
LOL….. ’bout spit out my lunch! Never thought I’d see someone try and put “Bill Elder” and “integrity and ethics” in the same sentence. They just DON’T go together!
We can complain and cry all we want. Nothing is ever going to change. There is no one in the Command Staff that I respect anymore, their all in bed with that looser. Maybe its time to try a Democrat candidate (Sir, put down the gun). Seriously what other alternative is there. We can not keep supporting the current regimes puppets or these career politicians.
All I heard from everybody and I mean everybody, “Oh Elder is gonna be so great, he’s the Chief of Fountain PD, la la la la la….Yeah, the Chief a of 30 man Department woppitty do. I told everyone then, “I dont know why your so excited nothing is going to change for you”.
I was right. They pretended to shuffle the deck when all they did was change the top two cards. We all got play and guess what? Next election another one of those dumbies will play us again. We’re stupid enough to fall for it. One of them will wait until Elders last year and pull a Benedict Arnold and claim that they were the one voice of opposition. Everyone will bit hook line and sinker and then; here we go again.
And there are Lts and sergeants drinking the koolaid too. One particular husband and wife team in the upper ranks and anther particular husband and wife team in the sergeant ranks are helping spread the corruption through intimidation and gossip and making threats in briefings and organizing public displays of retaliation. Elected officials and their “cabinet of appointees” leave with new elections. Lts and sergeants usually stay. People will remember who drank that koolaid.
Lieutenants and Sergeant stay? Not so much. Have you not been counting? There are, what, seventeen Lieutenant positions? We all know that Lieutenant is the “top end” for promotion as Command Staff spots are political appointments. So, what have the Lieutenants been doing? Leaving in droves. In thee past 12 months you have lost Hunt, Jaworski, McMorran, Brandt, Athey, Burns, Williams, and others are looking for jobs too. They know if they are not part of “the family” then their careers are over. Those Lieutenants had around 25 or more years of experience each, all gone.
Good point! And it backs up the point initially made. Sergeants and Lieutenants have usually planned to make EPSO a career. Political appointees come and go with the Sheriff. So, those Sergeants (one particular husband and wife pair) and Lieutenant (one particular husband and appointed wife pair) who drink the koolaid should be fine while they warm up to the politics in the hallways (playing the game) while also attempting to connect with the deputies in the wards (playing the game). The Seregants and Lieutentants who don’t drink the koolaid, well, your point exactly!
Bottom line, those who drink from that cup can’t be trusted by anyone, not even by the ones pouring it, and definitely not by line level. Be careful of the ones smiling in your face with red flavor koolaid stain around their lips. Or grape, whatever the flavor of the day is!
Anyone who lived in Fountain and needed Fountain PD for anything serious (and was told, “It’s a civil matter—there’s nothing we can do!” when they showed up an hour after the event in question) knew that Bill Elder was going to be a cancer to EPSO.
Fountain is just a dumping ground for EPSO’s trash. It’s filled with cast away deputies and retired MP’s who know nothing about law enforcement. The worst is the Chief there, Heberrer. Fountain needs to be exposed just as much as EPSO.
Over the past few weeks, EPSO has set up several speed traps in the eastern part of town (and that is, indeed, their sole purpose). First, it smacks of desperation to generate some revenue for the increasingly destitute agency. Second, setting speed traps (as opposed to actually maintaining a vigilant presence in more secluded areas such as out east) is not sitting well with residents of those towns. Ergo, once 1A comes up for a vote, those same people are going to remember that despite “needing more money,” EPSO has the resources to post several officers down a 10-mile stretch of road several times a week, several times a day. And if most of us did not have a dog in this fight, can you honestly say that you, as a tax payer, would vote to continue to fund this corrupt administration?
Not sure who this person is. It’s obvious they are not an employee. If they were they would know that we no longer have a traffic unit (Thanks Elder/Evans) and during the day, patrol calls for service are stacked and deputies are running call to call. If a patrol deputy can get one or two stops in during a 10 hour shift they are lucky. Speed traps? Seriously? Grow up.
Fully aware of the traffic unit issue, thanks. Sitting for hours on end in the same place, pulling people over and not moving for another couple of hours…sure. If only all deputies at EPSO were so lucky.
Dude Ciot is in effect the state was giving money for people to work traffic for seat belt violation.
Fines from traffic tickets go to the county general fund, not the sheriff’s office budget coffers.
Your last article about the POST grant was a complete lie. I was there and heard every word. You are no better than tabloid news. Elder stood up and explained the whole situation for twenty minutes. There was no indication of any wrongdoing. In fact it was an attempt to be fiscally responsible.
If you’re going to post stories make sure they are factual. You have as much credibility as a tabloid. Nothing you post can be trusted.
So your saying that taking $225,000.00, spending that money and then having to return the money is being fiscally responsible??? In what world do you live in where that is considered responsible? Where exactly is that money going to come from? Clearly Elder did something shady to get the money or he wouldn’t have to give it back…….
Getting grant funding for projects is being responsible. The money was returned because it wasn’t used. If you’d been there you would know the truth. All I am doing is standing for truth. Watching first hand how this site twisted the truth of what occurred is eye opening. IF you claim to expose the truth then be truthful. Lying And sensationalizing is tabloid news. If you weren’t there then find out the truth. Don’t believe everything you read.
Sounds like you’re the poster child for hypocrisy, or one of them. You preach about truth on one hand, but yet you and your cronies spread lies on the other. Just so you know, being two-faced isn’t an attractive trait!
And, no one is saying grant funding isn’t being fiscally responsible per se, it’s the intentional MISUSE and MISREPRESENTATION of such funding that screams financial IRRESPONSIBILTY. One might say, Elder and Carey’s double-dealing smells a little like fraud.
Oh and by the way, there is plenty of evidence to show Elder knows NOTHING about being fiscally responsible both in his private life and “professional” life. Now, there is some more truth for you!
Smart people can see through Elder’s incessant lies and manipulation used to capitalize on one’s incompetence and weak-mindedness, hence the reason he is surrounded by so many losers. The not-so-smart people fall for his bull**** and lack the mental capacity to understand even the basics. Whether Elder used the word “wrongdoing” or not, the mere fact that he has to return $225,000 of grant money to the State is a huge RED flag! Don’t be fooled, getting jammed up for misusing grant money DOES NOT represent fiscal responsibility, rather a sign of irresponsibility and malfeasance.
Talk about lacking credibility! The Elder Adminstrarion and the filth that comes along with it LACKS CREDIBILITY as it’s made up of a bunch of sexual deviants, liars, thieves and bottom feeders!
Don’t be a hater! Dirtyelder.com is exposing the filth that exists within the Elder Administration and El Paso County government.
Whether the weak minded incompetents like it or not, your boy is being exposed for the filth that he is. Now, the truth hurts, doesn’t it?
In response to comments made by “Tabloid news”.
It’s a good idea to actually know the facts before you accuse others of misstating the facts.
The POST grant funds were spent in 2016. In fact, the requirement for getting the grant is that they had to spend the money the same fiscal year. It’s our understanding they had to spend the money by June 30, 2016; which they did! If you had read the first article you would have seen that the money was spent on a turning target system which is sitting in crates at PPIR (or it was at the time).
We appreciate your comments because it reminded us that we did not make it clear in the article that Elder already spent the money and will most likely use 2017 EPSO funds to pay the money back. We have updated the article. So, thank you for that.
Also, if you were in the room as you say, you would have known the money had to be spent soon because it was discussed at the same time (read the meeting minutes), so we doubt you are being truthful. But even if you were “in the room” when Elder explained why he needed the funds there is no problem. We know he explained why the funds were needed. The problem is his facts were wrong and misleading. There was no urgent need for a new range; EPSO and CSPD had access to other ranges which has been proven because they are still using them to this day. So, Elder has been proven a liar, again.
We have more information concerning COTIPS (Colorado Training Institute for Public Safety) that we will be publishing in the future. It is very interesting.
As they say; the proof is in the pudding. Elder stated in a meeting he is going to pay the money back, so he either lied in the meeting and has no intentions of paying the funds back or he openly admitted to wrong doing by agreeing to pay the money back. Corrupt either way.
We stand behind our story and have provided facts to support it.
Total incompetence once again rules the day at the SO. Just took a look at their so-called variance reports of the 1A money on the SO website. You know, the reports those idiots have been scrambling to create since dirtyelder.com called them out on it. Well, it’s no surprise; their variance reports are useless and technically are still in non-compliance with the ballot language. It may look good at first glance, but if you’re the type that actually studies the material, you will see those reports provide no true transparency and actually are riddled with inaccuracies and mistakes! Quite frankly, there are some transactions that look suspicious. Heck, these reports don’t even line-up with what they report in the Annual Report for 2016 and may not even for 2015. Inconsistencies can serve as a red flag for financial impropriety.
It’s pretty disheartening to know that our tax money is being managed by a bunch of incompetent fools, but so long as those idiots get paid and the taxpayers continue to get screwed, the Board doesn’t care. They carry on with blinders.
Note to Janet: The honorable thing to do now is repay the County for all the money you have been paid the last 2.5 years for a job that you were not qualified for and should never have been assigned, divorce that POS husband of yours and go hide. I have a feeling Karma isn’t done with you yet.
That is a rather dumb ploy to garner sympathy; few employees would sympathize with her as she is seen as part of the problem. She would have stood a better chance at sympathy if she would have gone trailer park on her husband when the sex assault allegations came out and threw his stuff on the lawn. The only tears shed when the Chief of Stuff leaves will be her own crocodile tears.
This website is about corruption in the El Paso County Sheriff Office. But it appears the corruption is in the El Paso County District Attorney Office as well.
The kidnapping charges against Maketa are being dropped. That means the case against Maketa doesn’t exist. Fox21news.com reports that instead of Maketa, it was Shannon Gerhart who inappropriately ordered an arrest and detention. But no one has filed charges against her.
So the question for District Attorney Dan May is, why aren’t you pursuing charges against the real perpetrator in the kidnapping? Are you covering for someone?
This corruption thing is getting bigger and bigger. I wonder how much of the Arapaho DA office is part of this corruption and coverup. How deep into this is Mark Hurlbert willing to step?
First, Dan May cannot pursue charges as he has recused himself and the 4th Judicial District Attorney’s Office from prosecuting this case due to conflict of interests. Second, if former DDA Shannon Gerhart has testified before the grand jury, she would not be able to be charged unless she was served a targeted subpoena. Targeted subpoenas are the ones served on the persons under investigation. Recipients of a targeted subpoena must appear, but they are not required to testify against their best interests. If you receive a regular subpoena to the grand jury, you must appear and answer questions, however, you cannot be charged because you are being compelled to testify.
Third, in every investigation and trial, someone nearly always is offered a deal (as an example, the detective conducting the investigation was likely the arresting officer as well) and the deal usually results in no charges being filed. Sometimes you let some go to get the big ones.
All very interesting. And informative; I’m not part of law enforcement, nor am I a lawyer. I can’t quote statute; I just call it like I see it.
Did Dan May recuse the entire 4th DA Office, or just himself? Doesn’t really matter. His prior work history says he just came from the 18 Judicial District; so he has the same conflict using a DA from that district that he does if he were to have the 4th District prosecute this case. Corruption here, corruption there. Corruption everywhere.
You’re telling me that Gerhard testifying gives her immunity even if, after the testimony, it turns out she was complicit? As in, she has immunity? Anything for a sitting judge. Did I say corruption?
It will be interesting to watch this. The ADA prosecuting this case from the 18 District, Mark Hurlbert, also was the DA in Eagle County when Kobe Bryant was charged. Pamela Mackey, who was Kobe Bryant’s defense lawyer, is also Maketa’s lawyer. So this is Hurlbert vs Mackey, chapter 2.
When the Bryant case began to fall apart, Hurlbert bailed and dropped all charges. Now, I see charges being dropped on Maketa.
The way I see it, if Hurlbert is looking for a way to remove himself from all this corruption, he’ll be dropping more charges between now and Wednesday. Convenient.
it’s interesting that current Undersheriff Joe Breister’s name is brought up as visiting with the investigators. It is a well-known fact amongst several people in the sheriffs office that just prior to the grand jury convening, Joe Breister said in an open meeting that if Maketa,Presley and San Augustine want to talk to the media they are about to
get a nuke dropped on them. Guess his daily visits with the investigators were quite substantive. On another note, it seems odd that even if witnesses are compelled to testify in a grand jury, that they can’t be held liable for perjury.
This website is about corruption.
I reread the Fox21News article that reports the District Attorney office filed a motion to dismiss kidnapping charges against Maketa, Pressley, and San Agustin. That article reports that Shannon Gerhart ordered a Detective named Kaiser to arrest Kelli Trull; as it turns out, this arrest was illegal—it was without probable cause. Fox21news also reports that, at the time of the “false” arrest, San Agustin was not in the building. Imagine his surprise when he learned he was being charged for an arrest that occurred when he was not in the building.
Same with Maketa and Pressley; they were not in the building during the time of the “kidnapping”.
At the time of the kidnapping, Gerhart was Chief Deputy District Attorney; she worked for the District Attorney, Dan May. Dan May knew Gerhart ordered the arrest. So how could Dan May possibly justify charging San Agustin for Trull’s arrest? How has Dan May maintained, for over a year that Maketa, Pressley, and San Agustin improperly arrested someone? Remember, all three of them were not even in the building, let alone part of the arrest.
And now, a week prior to trial, and all quiet and hush hush, Dan May wants to secretly drop these charges.
Gerhart’s reaps a serious reward for staying quiet and playing along with May’s scheme; she was appointed to a position as County Judge.
Shannon Gerharr: Job for life.
Maketa, Pressley, San Agustin: not so much.
What I can’t figure out is, “What’s in all this for Dan May?”
Well, more and more corruption. Or is it more and more incompetence? Recently, the prosecuting District Attorney from the “not-so-neutral-because-Dan-May-used-to-work-there” 18th District asked the judge to drop two felony charges against Maketa. Really? After holding those charges for a year?
Now today, during jury selection, it turns out the jury questionnaire had “a mistake” on it; it told prospective jurors that one of the charges against Maketa was attempted murder.
So, any juror who is reasonably current on the news has now been told that Maketa will be charged with kidnapping, false imprisonment, and attempted murder. Oh but wait. Nah, never mind. The judge will just tell them to disregard all that; it was just a mistake.
This practically guarantees the Defense will be able to appeal any conviction. What a waste of taxpayer money, and of jurors’ time.
But the 4th Judicial District (Dan May), and now the 18th Judicial District (prosecutor Mark Hurlbert) would have everyone believe there is no corruption. Even the Gazette is in their pocket; it repeatedly refers to Maketa as “disgraced former sheriff”.
I think the disgrace is Dan May and Mark Hurlbert; and Bill Elder; and Joe Breister. Who knows how far into El Paso County this corruption goes; perhaps into the County Commission?
And I am more convinced than ever that there will be some sort of additional chicanery from the Prosecution. Perhaps in the form of more dropped charges? I am guessing we’ll know soon enough.
Looks like there is a whole other side to this Maketa thing. There are some interesting facts coming out of the trial that we’ve never been privy to. My assumption would be that once the Defense begins introducing their witnesses, there will be a plethora of new information that has never been heard.
Observations made via popping into the courtroom and following tweets:
1. Lt. Kull is a whackadoo.
2. Lt. Kull and Sgt. Gerhart are proud of their admitted policy violations while claiming to be targeted.
3. Ex-Undersheriff Goodall, an avid Elder supporter and lead on the Maketa recall attempt, is spending time with each witness prior to testifying.
4. No evidence and very limited discussion about the actual charges.
5. Prosecution seems to be dodging any discussion about Lt. Kull and Sgt. Gerhart failing CVSA tests prior to their resignations.
As the Maketa Trial has come to a close and the jury deliberates, I would remind all the readers that Maketa is no victim in this; he and Elder are cut from the same cloth. Both chose to lead with fear and intimidation. It remains to be seen if there is enough proof beyond a reasonable doubt to convict Former Sheriff Maketa on any of the charges. I would point out that it is not illegal to be a horrible boss; there are hundreds off them spread across the organizations in both public and private sector. However, being a huge Richard to your employees does place you in a position that paybacks can be a real female dog!!! I believe that the court trial laid a great foundation for civil action against Maketa, but I am not confident that he will be convicted on any criminal charges.
So please do tell mr. or mrs. “Esquire” just how exactly has Mr. Maketa trial “laid a great foundation for civil action against Maketa” as you have vaguely pointed out?…….. us simple minded folk would like to know. Because as far as I know, being a boss that everyone doesn’t like, doesn’t rise to the level of civil action. And furthermore, the court system either civilly or criminally was not intended to be used for carrying out vendettas or dislike.
While I am not an attorney (though I played one in school….and I’ve slept in a Holiday Inn Express) I have had my share of court room experience (and no, not as a defendant). My statement is based upon some of the statements made in court, plus knowledge of Maketa’s past behavior towards subordinates that would go beyond just being a bad supervisor. Many current and former supervisors and deputies have endured humiliation at the hands of Maketa and Presley; a dressing down that is far in excess of the transgression that had occurred done only it seemed to cement who was in charge. The grand jury was only able to come up with the few charges he faced; the investigation likely looked into the allegations of fiscal mismanagement and either no evidence of wrongdoing was found or insufficient evidence was found to charge criminally. Reparations to Habert, Porter, Gerhart and Kull have already been made; others are waiting to be reviewed for likely payouts. O. J. Simpson wasn’t convicted of murder but a civil court found him libel in his wife’s death (I’m not saying Maketa is like OJ). In closing, I would agree that the court system was not intended to be used as a tool of revenge….but unfortunately, it oftentimes is used for that exact purpose.
Well, that was certainly an interesting response. But did not answer my question. Which was “how did that lay a great foundation for civil action against Makita” The response was much like that of the prosecutions charges………. A lot of attempted character assassination but no facts or evidence produced to back up what is being said……. just alot of “he said, she said”
Former Sheriff Maketa Has been vendicated! I can imagie that Elder and Briester are scatching their heads wondering how thier plan failed to net Maketa jail time. After all Maketa had Briester walked out and investigated Elders missing file. HOW DARE HE! !! I also wonder if CBI or another law enforcement agency will prosecute the many alleged victims who knowingly lied to the grand jury then to the jury during the trial.
I also hope that the AGs office looks into the El Paso County Attorneys office and why Amy Folsom gave in to these same liars and paid out civil judgements with even trying a case.
The stink of this trumped up endeavor can be smelled across the state, and the shame across the nation!
So much could be said; but, one question: now that Bill Elder has proven publicly for all to see that he lied under oath during the trial, shouldn’t his name (and maybe others also) be placed on the Brady List? This by far is not the first time in his career (many times) he has lied. How many chances does he get and still gets to be the Sheriff?
In essence this new article once again points out that Bill Elder, the Sheriff of El Paso County, has committed the crime of perjury. So this means Elder has committed more crimes than Maketa, Presley, and San Agustin combined. Now we all know why Todd Evans and Bob McDonald ran off to Fountain, and should anyone be surprised that that lying rat Joe Breister is throwing people under the bus?
I read the article about the CC Benefiel’s homicide. I was wondering if this case would ever come up again. While her estranged husband was always a suspect, there were also so many strong suspects within EPSO as well. I noted the comments about Elder fighting with his wife right after the murder. Now it all makes sense.
Elder had an “Employee Meeting” with line personnel recently. During the meeting, he became enraged and threatened employees that they needed to leave his wife out of it and that if he found out who was providing information to this website, he’d meet them outside with knives or guns or whatever. Wish someone had a recording of it. I guess “so much” for his claim that he doesn’t pay attention to, or read, this website, and wasn’t trying to find out who was behind it?
Elder and Gary Brown. There was always some suspicion that Liz Brown, the wife of Gary Brown at the time, was a good suspect with a motive of eliminating her husband’s paramour. Remember the comments about it possibly being a female suspect, using a .22 firearm.
Perhaps we will never know, but the stench of impropriety just won’t go away, with Elder in Office and still “playing games.”
There was talk weeks ago about bringing warning shots back to our agency. Maybe they will hurry and write that into policy and back-date it. You know, like how they mysteriously got rid of the DAB when that same LT had a pending case?
Just looked at this website for the first time. Amazing. I keep expecting Froto, Bilbo and the evil Gollum to show up there’s so much fantasy being spouted. What garbage the article is regarding Elder’s IA file that is being put out today under the cowardly “you can believe or not”, but we in our Ivory Tower are going to stick it out there anyway. Wait a minute, I just heard that Donald Trump, Jr. had a meeting there with the Russians in 2013 and HE stole the file. Case solved.
Oh Gandalf, what an imagination! It’s already been proven that Elder had an IA file. You might want to return to placing your attention back into the fairytale books that you appear to be enamored with.
I think your hyperbole regarding characters from Lord of the Rings might just fit Sheriff Bill Elder and his command staff, especially Briester and Shannon. Oh, and I don’t want to forget Cliff Porter AKA “PTSD Boy”.
Wait…so Elder announced he will get rid of patrol if 1A doesn’t pass with the voters? Where did he say that? Are there witnesses? Isn’t that extortion? That man is a loose canon! And Kirby (she needs to lay off the steroids) actually admitted that the 1A funds are a lost cause? How long does Elder think he can keep up this charade? He’s messing with the safety of the community now; when will someone stop this lunatic?
It isn’t that 1A funds are a lost cause per se. There were valid reasons for that funding, but now under Elder’s Administration, the 1A funds are being misappropriated, used in ways that explicitly violate the ballot language and are “managed” by idiots! The money and purpose of those funds have been lost thanks to Bill Elder and his cast of clowns. They have ruined this Office. They need to go and now!
Your story on Chuck Kull’ s lying testimony was spot on!
His attorney SHIMON KOHN is a schmuck! !!
The El Paso County Commissioners are a joke. Citizens have lost approximately 120 K because the commissioners didn’t investigate Kulls and Gerhart’s stories; they just paid out the money. Hey it’s not their money so why should they care! ! I always thought that they had a feduciary responsibility to our citizens, but evidently they don’t see it that way. There’s no accountability when the recipients are sworn to secrecy and the record’s sealed.
Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic, shame on each and every one of you! !!!!!!!
Oh, and, if you notice, he not only used one Sheriff’s Office number on his re-election affidavit, but he used a second one too. The 719-520-7686 number listed under the Candidate Committee Information section listed as the contact number for Re-Elect Sheriff Bill Elder is also registered to the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office. So, did the Sheriff’s Office become his personal call center for his re-election?
Not surprised that more evidence surfaces that Bill Elder is a lying piece of shiX and he continues to use government resources for his own personal gain! This guy belongs in an orange jumpsuit!
Concerning today’s article, I think Jackie needs her mouth washed out with soap. How do you put a face on all the corruption Bill Elder is involved with both by commission and omission!
I know that we have to have at least one great leader in the Office who can run and beat Elder.
Take no prisoners! !!!
Please let Bill Elder know that I am willing to donate $5,000 toward his re-election campaign if he promises me a $90,000 a year job on his staff! Can’t do any worse than his current staff of incompetent members!
This letter was sent to us via our email and we thought we would publish it in our BLOG area. It does raise some interesting questions. Why did Wendy Harbert get a payout when she doesn’t work for the EPSO?
I have been perplexed with all the payouts that the El Paso County has been paying out.
Something I was pondering for awhile since I read about Wendy Haber’s lawsuit settlement by El Paso County. I cannot understand just how Wendy Habert was eligible to be paid by the County, $55,000.00 to her and $30,000 to her attorney when she was not a City or County employee.
Wendy Habert worked for Contractor that provided Health Care Services at El Paso County Sheriff’s Office, Criminal Justice Center, under a contract issued for El Paso County Sheriff’s Office.
As I understand it, the contract for providing health services to all inmates, and includes standard contract terms, which protect the City/County. The contract terms include:
(1) Independent Contractor.
(a) this clarifies that the contractor and the contractor employees, agents, servants and other personnel are NOT City/County Employees.
(b) The contract terms also clearly states that the contractor nor contractor employees, agents, servants and other personnel shall not be entitled to any City payroll, insurance, unemployment, worker’s compensation, retirement or any other benefits whatsoever. If Wendy Habert had a grievance, or claims it should have been against her employer, it was the Contractor (her employer) who made the decision to fire her.
(2) Indemnification. This contract term requires the contractor to indemnify and hold harmless the City/County against all damages, claims or liabilities and expenses (including attorney’s fee) arising out of or resulting in any way, form or any acts or omissions of the seller (contractor) its agents, employees or subcontractors.
(a) If Wendy Habert filed a lawsuit for alleged wrong doing that happened while she was employed by the contractor, why didn’t the contractor meet the terms of his contract and indemnify the City/County.
(b) Secondly why did the County pay Wendy Habert and her lawyer when the Contract terms clearly states that Contractor employees are not entitled to any City/Benefits whatsoever.
I am not a lawyer and am not familiar with the El Paso’s acquisition process, but I was able to find the standard terms included in their contracts. Something does not add up, it smells to high heaven. I wonder what was Wendy Habert really paid for under the guise of a lawsuit. Was it for managing Sheriff Elders campaign, or to lie for them.
Looks like there is a lot of Tax payers money is being spend on questionable settlements
Screen Name: Still Perplexed (via email)
I am still perplexed about all the payouts that the El Paso County Commissioners have paid out to Elder’s campaign supporters and contributors.
These two do not equate.
According to El Paso County Commissioners, Settlement of Lawsuits filed by Kull and Gerhart was due to Loss of income and benefits and to adverse employment.
Deputy Charles Kull received $120,000.00 and Deputy Emory Gerhart received close to $88,000.00
Based on testimony during the trial, it was clear that both Kull and Gerhart quit their jobs when they were told that they would be asked questions on the IA missing Elder file. Was this the adverse employment? With what came out during their testimony at Maketa’s trial, their work environment did not sound too adverse to me! My impression of their testimony, is they sounded like they created the disruptions within their department.
The thing that I find interesting is that years ago, Elder and an implicated sergeant both quit their jobs from the El Paso Sheriffs Office, under their own volitions around the time Elder had an IA investigation going on. I guess Elder did not like to answer questions either. I wonder, Did Elder mentor Kull and Gerhart about quitting during the investigation of Elder’s missing file?
When people quit their job is it standard practice in private industry that the employer owe their x-employees, who quit their job, payment of loss income and benefits!!! Private industry does not reward ex-employees even if they hire them back. But I regress, here we are talking about tax payers money. No money out of the commissioners own pockets.
After Charles Kull quit their jobs at the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office, he went to work at Fountain and earned income and benefits from his job. (So much for lost income and benefits.) Kull gets hired back by El Paso County Sheriff’s Office, (Elder) and gets paid $120,000.00 by the El Paso Commissioners! Sounds like fraud, waste and abuse to me.
Gerhart gets rehired too, and gets $88,000.00 settlement, quite questionable too. He quit so he would not have to answer and question regarding the mission IA investigation file.
They both quit their jobs, voluntarily, rather than discuss the results of the given test in which the computer measures the tone of a person’s voice in effort to verify the truthfulness of their statements. The fact that they both quite their jobs, tells me that Kull and Gerhart knew and still know a lot about the missing file and did not want to talk. An old Elder move.
You would think that stealing files from the Internal Affairs Department would be a serious crime. My guess is that no-one is looking for who stole the file. My understanding is the Elder said does not like to waste time on cold cases.
With a better understanding of why Kull and Gerhart quite, I beleive that the Commissioners have a responsibility to get the money back from these two deputies, and return it to the tax payers. Maybe the tax payers should demand that an independent investigation (by person(s) that would not be biased and not have a conflict of interest in the outcome) to validate just what these commissioners were really paying for with tax payers money to these two deputies and others. Talk about the appearance of corruption, and the depth of the conspiracy against three (3) innocent people that did their jobs. Makes me wonder if any of the commissioners have the integrity and honesty the people would expect from their elected officials.
All of these facts and/or accusations mean nothing if no one else runs for office. This will be such an easy victory for ANY other person that runs for office. I’m almost tempted. Then again, the headaches that will come with it due to all of the problems that will arise due to the current incompetent administration. Only time will tell. By the way 1A money will be gone soon. Something to think about for current employees. Layoffs? I think so.
Interesting “1A” money comment, Holy Caca. Did anyone (or everyone) else notice the beginning of their 1A campaign yesterday? Suddenly the jail is at “maximum” capacity and, according to Lincoln, more “resources” and improved “administration” is going to be required in order to alleviate these issues facing the “growing population” of El Paso County. Please….”resources” is just another name for tax-payer $$$$….and “administration” is just one more shot @ Maketa et al. The facts are that the EPSO has squandered 1A money on unnecessary personnel and equipment. It”s as simple as that…and the entire county knows it.
And just a couple of more things to consider for the current employees of the EPSO:
1) Always remember…last in, first out.
2) Think twice about spending that 2018 Uniform Allowance too quickly.
Please be sure to thank your chain of command for all they’ve done for you…they’ll be here all week…and at least through Dec ’18.
improved administration is needed? Try a NEW Sheriff is what’s needed! Elder is worthless and ineffective as are his buddies in his administration. Taxpayers and media should DEMAND immediate reports of ALL monies collected and spent since 2015.
Well FINALLY someone has stepped in with some very good and useful credentials. Mike Angley looks like he’s going to challenge this incompetent administration. Mr.Angley, you will have no problem getting in. The question is will you do things differently and do the right thing? Hopefully because you will be in office and running what used to be an admirable and well respected organization. Most of the employees will vote against Elder and the Huffors. These same employees will influence their friends and family to vote a certain way that would benefit you. Quite sure we’ll be meeting because I/we have quite a bit of useful information for you, Sir.
Let’s wait and see what Mike Angley has to offer to the people of this county–no more false promises-no more corruption-no more Huffor’s–no more Elder! If Mike is the right candidate I may donate my $5000.00 to his campaign!
Mike’s bio is outstanding and his leadership qualities is what the EPSO needs!
Dear Sheriff Elder –
If you think the “leaks” are bad now, just imagine if you had an intelligent, competent, and qualified opponent (Oh wait…what’s this? Mike Angley?? Well that’s certainly interesting). That sound you’ll soon be hearing will be the pitter patter of little feet scurrying off your sinking ship. Do you really want to campaign on all of your accomplishments since taking office? Really?? If so, I’ve taken a moment to jot down a few of your most stellar accomplishments as a reminder:
Oh, hell…who are we fooling? I’ve got nothing.
What bothers me about this site is that facts are stated in the form of a question. I assume that is done in order to be thought provoking, however, there is no question. The facts are reality. Sheriff Elder is a liar that is ok with destroying careers and reputations. Not only does he carelessly ruin people’s careers, he cares not what that has done to the persons family, including spouses, children, siblings and even elderly parents. When you blatantly lie to protect nothing but your own income, image, and pride, you severely damage your victims. Victims being the INNOCENT people that Sheriff Elder, the Sheriff Department’s “legal advisor” Lisa Kirkman, El Paso County District Attorneys, Dan May in particular, ADA Mark Hurlbert have falsely prosecuted and continue to try to prosecute.
How frightening for an average citizen to know that in El Paso County Colorado, if the Sheriff and/or the District Attorneys office simply DOES NOT LIKE you, they together will financially and emotionally ruin you and your family with their ultimate goal being PRISON for their victims. Reminiscent of the Salem Witch Trials.
I do believe that Karma, and better yet, the Good Lord will deliver the ultimate judgement.
But in that coming day, no weapon turned against you will succeed. And everyone who tells lies in court will be brought to JUSTICE.
The Sheriff and the DA’s will be held trial in a much higher, eternal court than that that they drag their victims through here on earth.
How many out there caught Wedenesday’s Gazette article on EPSO employee (and Jackie Kirby son) Ben Corriea? Just a few short months ago Kirby lost her mind when her little boy was mentioned on this website…now he is front-page news…and obviously a “plant” being used create an aura of humanity for the Office. Once again, the Gazette is doing Elder’s bidding. They should truly be ashamed for agreeing to print such an obvious piece of campaign garbage.
I am not a lawyer, and have no real experience in trials, etc. But I cannot understand how Dan May and Mark Hurlbert continue to go after John San Augustine for kidnapping, when they dropped charges on Maketa and Presley. A female detective arrested Trull; why isn’t she on trial? And I hear she made the arrest because of direction from Shannon Gearhart. Why isn’t Gearhart on trial. Better yet, how was she selected to become a judge if the arrest was a bad one?
I agree with Francis. If you piss off certain people in El Paso County, they will come after you. And they use taxpayer dollars to do it.
Citizen, you are absolutely right. This is nothing short of a witch hunt. Maketa pissed off the wrong people and San Agustin knew Maketa didn’t do what he’s accused of and he refused to play their little game. So they charged him too! Now, they don’t know how to get out of any of it without admitting they falsely charged all 3 of them, so they just keep their charade going. Aren’t the same witnesses who already lied on the stand going to have to testify again at the other trials? How on earth will they keep their stories straight? It will be entertaining to watch, that’s for sure. Plus, Judge Shannan Gerhart will have to testify at some point. Awkward….
Ralph, With Maketa, they dropped the kidnapping charges two weeks before trial, after they found “new evidence”. Never mind that the new evidence was discovered nearly a year after arresting Maketa.
So I’m guessing they’ll find more “new evidence”, nearly a year after charging San Augustin, and based on the new evidence, drop the charges on John about two weeks before the trial is scheduled to begin.
That way, no one has to testify. That is, Shannon Gerhart can keep her cozy judge job and not have to testify. Dan May won’t have to make any public statements. Mark Hurlbert gets to go home to Denver.
So all the “good guys” in this–May, Elder, Gerhart, Hurlbert, and all of their cronies–get to go on with life like nothing happened. Same for all those who lied at Maketa’s trial.
And all the “bad guys” in this–especially San Augustin who has a year’s worth of legal costs–have their reputations ruined and can never work in law enforcement again. Lesson to all of us? Don’t piss off the “good guys” who run the Republican Party in El Paso County.
Here’s a question, though. There was a guy in Maketa’s trial named Gerhart who was fired for something under Maketa, got a bunch of money from the county as compensation, and was re-hired by Elder. He then testified against Maketa (the guy who fired him). If I remember correctly, Gerhart has some sort of bad relationship with the Brady list.
Now, this guy Gerhart and the Shannon Gerhart who charged San Augustin, are they related? As in, married? So they target San Augustin; in return, he gets money, she gets a promotion from ADA to being a judge? And San Augustin is left to twist in the wind?
Seriously, are El Paso County Republicans corrupt, or what?
Just to be clear, Shannon Gerhart (who is the wife of Ray Gerhart) did not charge San Agustin. She was involved with the original arrest back in sept of 2013 of an individual who Mark Hurlbert says was illegally arrested. Shannon Gerhart, who was a deputy district attorney at the time, told investigators there was probable cause to make the arrest, however, somehow Hurlbert justifies charging John San Agustin with kidnapping. The evidence of corruption and that this is all political is the fact that the five who were present when the decision was made to arrest were not charged, but the one person not present was charged. Can’t wait for the trial. The truth is coming….
Citizen, you bring up good points. One clarification; Gerhart, the deputy, wasn’t fired by Maketa. He failed a polygraph test and when he was told they wanted to question him more, he resigned on the spot. Maketa had nothing to do with it. Gerhart freaked about having to answer more questions and quit.
Also, something else to chew on; who else finds it odd that these charges all came over 2 years after Presley, Maketa and San Agustin left their jobs? How crazy is that! Witch-hunt?
They couldn’t keep their stories straight! This new trial proved that! Several who testified stuck their foot in their mouths. Lies lies and more lies. It’s all on the court records now.
Did I just click on the Elder4Sheriff.com link and come back to this site? Hilarious.
Sad. I just read the latest news. Very sad. Why is it that Maketa could manage the budget just fine, but every time Elder turns around, something else is jacked up with the 1A money? What the heck is that guy doing with those funds? If the media would pull their heads out of Elder’s backside and quit taking everything he says as gold, maybe they would get the information needed and actually inform the public what he’s doing! It’s illegal! And newsflash: the Commissioners and County budget officials are allowing it! They are just as guilty. Deputies, you should all be furious…not only are these your taxpayer dollars that are being misused, but your future employment is in jeopardy! Maybe it’s time to contact the new guy, Mike Angley, and see what his plans are for YOUR FUTURE.
Everyone, go to Angley’s website! And check it daily; the guy keeps adding new endorsements and valuable information you won’t want to miss. Today he talks of Elder’s 2017 “budget presentation”; and brings up what we all know from his last 2 presentations-that there’s not even one $ in the entire presentation! Maketa always had a very thorough, detailed budget presentation and provided it on his website. Elder’s budget it a joke, just like his administration.
All of this is futile; the media literally does not care about this website, does not care about Angley, and Elder will be reelected. That’s how it goes in El Paso County. The ONLY way Angley or anyone else is elected is if BOTH employees publicly organize and campaign against elder AND if the media seriously investigates and reports on this regime and promotes Angley. If those two things don’t happen, it will be Elder again. And we all know neither of those things will happen. So get on with your lives and plan for the future.
We don’t need to media to tell us what to think or what to do….that’s why President Trump was elected. People are tired of the BS at the Federal level and at the local level. Change is coming and I think Elder will be tossed out as he should be. Elder has shown who he really is by his actions (or lack of) and I’m betting that El Paso County voters will want someone who is competent with their tax money and someone who will hire the best person for a job (and a job that’s actually contributing to the organization, not one created for his friend) – not his friends and campaign supporters who are looking for “payback”. Mike Angley for Sheriff
Wow. I just read today’s article about Dan May and Elder covering up on Tom Clements’ murder.
Sounds like just about everyone at the Sheriff’s office is spilling their guts. They must really hate Elder. It must be really hard to work there, knowing he covers up on crimes against one of their own.
And I thought it was bad that he asked the County Commissioners to payoff Gearhart without due process.
I hope something happens so Clements’ family gets some justice.
Again, unless mainstream media runs with an anti-Elder agenda, the masses who choose to be uninformed will just vote him back in to office. That’s how it goes. Angley will need very public support from both the media and sitting county commissioners to win. Neither of those things will happen.
Are you willing to step up and give public support? If you’re a current employee of EPSO, you are protected as long as it’s done during your time off…If you’re ready to see some real change, effective leadership, honest handling of taxpayer money and a boost in moral, then please contact Angley and find out how you can best help to get him elected as the next Sheriff. Be the voice for those that are afraid to speak up.
That’s great news! I hope all the visitors this weekend are new viewers so more people are learning about all the corruption. Just for s$#%s and giggles, you should check out the Sheriff Elder Facebook page. He posted a new picture on July 4, 2016 then NOTHING until June 3, 2017! Now all the sudden he cares about posting updates and telling everyone how much he cares for the community and employees. Nothing for a year…but now that he has an opponent, it’s so important to make daily posts! Toooo funny. Also, there’s no re-elect Elder Facebook page. He must be afraid people will post the link to this website. Keep it up, Dirtyelder.com. You’re making a difference and people are listening.
It was with tremendous bemusement that I recently took a peek at our Sheriff’s “re-election” website and read his endorsements, especially those taken below from the five members of our current Board of County Commissioners:
EL PASO COUNTY COMMISSIONER PEGGY LITTLETON –
“When our community finds the need to be ready, I am comforted knowing that Bill Elder is our Sheriff”
EL PASO COUNTY COMMISSIONER LONGINOS GONZALEZ –
“he’s spearheaded reform in the Sheriff’s Office”
EL PASO COUNTY COMMISSIONER STAN VANDERWERF –
“He has created a calming influence in the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office” and (an) establishment of a higher ethical standard, Sheriff Elder has removed the controversy of years past”
EL PASO COUNTY COMMISSIONER DARRYL GLENN –
“I appreciate what he and his staff do that does not get reported out in community on strengthening and developing positive and lasting relationships”
EL PASO COUNTY COMMISSIONER MARK WALLER –
“Sheriff Elder was leading the fight in Denver to pass legislation giving cops the tools they need to make our community a better place to live and raise kids. We need real leadership and experience, and that’s why I’m supporting Sheriff Elder in his bid for re-election”
“Reform?” “Calming Influence?” “Higher Ethical Standard?” Removed the Controversy?” “Real Leadership?” Just what color is the sky in their little GOP world? Do they truly not understand the magnitude of the train-wreck at 27 East Vermijo…or do they just choose to continue on with their heads in the sand?? Interesting that they don’t mention the growing number of lawsuits and fiscal improprieties. And it seems a little premature that they would hitch their wagons to Elder’s star prior to any real campaign. The allegations of corruption will continue…I have no doubt. And when those allegations turn criminal, these five “county leaders” will be stepping all over each other in order to avoid their own professional train-wrecks.
The County Commissioners, and Bill Elder, are copying the Democratic National Committee (Debbie Wasserman-Schultz) and Hillary Clinton.
Washerman-Schultz and the DNC had all the Super Delegates declare their votes for HRC well before any of the state primaries; this preloaded a victory for HRC. They did this before any of the Democratic Candidate debates; that is, before any of them could objectively listen to different viewpoints. (not that it would have mattered, as Donna Brazile relayed the questions to HRC prior to any of the Democratic Primary debates). It was obvious then, and has since been admitted to, that the DNC primary was rigged in favor of HRC.
As everyone knows and admits, HRC was “The Chosen One” for the Democratic Party.
And here we go again. Following the example of Wasserman-Schultz and Brazile, the five County Commissioners are attempting to preload the Republican Caucus so that “The Chosen One”, in this case Bill Elder, wins the Caucus. In other words, so that the five of them can choose the next Sheriff.
The Five County Commissioners–Littleton, Gonzales, Vanderwerf, Glenn, and Waller–are no different from Wasserman-Schultz or Brazile. They thwart a real electoral process.
I wonder who within the Republican Party in El Paso County will provide debate questions to Elder prior to any debate?
If re-elected, what will Elder do for each of them in return for their DNC-like favoritism?
First off; Bill Elder is way too much of a chicken to debate anyone. He knows there is way too much “Dirty Laundry” for him to debate. We predict he will REFUSE all offers to debate. He made way too many unfulfilled promises in the last election. He knows it would be a target rich environment. How would he explain all the waste and abuse? All the missing 1A funds? All the sexual harassment cases? The hostile work environment?
But he’s just so great under pressure. Who can ever forget his sterling performance while being questioned by FOX 21’s Joe Cole regarding the Black Forest fire last year? It was truly a moment to remember. And lest we forget his amazing presence during the Planned Parenthood shooting (Thank you, Ms. Littleton for reminding us of the “comfort” Sheriff Elder provided us on that terrible day). He was so eloquent it was almost like he wasn’t there. Oh yeah…he wasn’t.
Debate is one thing. The corruption involving the five sitting County Commissioners is something else.
I know this site is supposed to only be about Elder, and I think the site manager is doing a great service to the county.
But someone in the media has to investigate the County Commissioners. Why are they behaving like the DNC Super delegates? Why are they picking the next sheriff more than a year before the election? What dirt does he have on them? Or is it the entire Republican Party in El Paso County? Are they rigging the election?
I’d bet that every Republican in the County, probably the State, condemned the DNC for the crooked, rigged Democratic Primary. But here they are, a year and a half later, doing the exact same thing themselves, and all wrapped up in their self-righteous blanket of morality.
Where is the Gazette? Where are the local TV stations? Why isn’t anyone challenging this?
The difference between the Five County Commissioners and Wassermanschultz? Nothing. The difference between the local media and MSNBC? Nothing.
There are far more dirty politics than people realize. Why did the County Attorney not fight the lawsuits against Maketa more? She didn’t want them to ever go to trial. Why not? Because she knew that, in a trial, it would come out that she, too, spent time between the sheets with Maketa.
Thank you, “Citizen” for the insight – and at least we all know just how that worked out so well for HRC. Once again (for the umpteenth time), when given the opportunity to do the right thing…Elder (and company) choose the wrong approach. Karma’s a bitch, Sheriff. And it’s looking for you.
In light of the fact that it’s now been brought to everyone’s attention that Elder, the commissioners and the local GOP are tightly intertwined, I really do hope Mr. Angley and any other possible opponents will go the petition route. The GOP can’t be trusted any more than Elder can.
I would like to point out a fact that most people may have overlooked; Bill Elder was not elected Sheriff of El Paso County by the citizens; rather he was selected by the Republican delegates at the caucus 9 months before the general election. Elder had been working for nearly two years prior to the caucus garnering support from the party so that he won the majority of votes from the delegates at the county caucus. Since no other candidate had at least 30 percent of the delegates’ vote, he was the only one on the ballot. The Democrats did not field any opposition, so in essence he was appointed the Sheriff by the Republican party, not the voters.
The Republican Party hasn’t always stood so strong with the incumbents….back in the early 90’s, the party chose not to support the incumbent Sheriff (Bernie Barry); there were a total of 5 candidates for Sheriff. Three candidates were Republican, one was a Democrat (really a DINO as he had assisted a prior Sheriff’s candidate’s campaign against Barry in 1990) and one independent. Sheriff Barry did not get on the ballot at the caucus and attempted to get enough signatures to get on the ballot, but failed. John Anderson won out and was actually elected Sheriff.
This election cycle, please consider becoming a delegate with your local precinct. You can influence who gets on the ballot and give other candidates a chance.
New from Elder’s website over the weekend – written endorsements/testimonials from noted IA customers the Huffors (“Bill Elder is a God fearing, hard working, and loyal servant leader who we have had the pleasure to serve with” – well crafted, Janet) and Rob King (“He is a good and decent man who understands and promotes leadership qualities and empowers his staff to make decisions” – I wonder if “promotes leadership qualities” = campaign donations). And what…was Harvey Weinstein not available to lend his support for Elder as well??
Congratulations, Commander…and we’re so sorry that you had to endure this nonsense. One question, though…can any current EPSO employees confirm or deny that the Office has internally emailed the information regarding the dismissal of your charges just like they emailed your mugshot in 2016? I didn’t think so.
Incredible. Just like predicted, DA Hurlbert “found” some “new evidence”, after more than a year, and has dropped the case on San Augustin. How is it any different from the “new evidence” he suddenly found just before Maketa’s trial, when he dropped the same charges against Maketa?
But he hasn’t dropped the kidnapping charges against Paula Presley. I guess he’s going to wait until just before her trial to “find new evidence”? Why doesn’t he drop those charges now? No evidence of kidnapping against Maketa, and none against San Augustin. Hurlbert abused his power to ruin San Augustin’s career and reputation. He continues to abuse his power to slander Presley’s.
Hurlbert is an abuser. He abuses his office to go after people that Dan May doesn’t like. Speaking of Dan May, why doesn’t he do his own dirty work? Why does he have Hurlbert come down from Denver and do it for him? And why does Hurlbert stoop so low as to do his dirty work?
What a wonderful day yesterday was for those seeking justice! We could not be happier for John San Agustin, his family and friends!
People of El Paso county, please remember there are others (at least one) who the DA Dan May, and Sheriff Bill Elder are still trying to prosecute during this witch hunt.
If you will go to the Fox 21 website you will find the actual Motion to Dismiss filed by Mark Hurlbert. In the motion you will read that, “As with any case, over time evidence can change for better or worse. In this case, evidence changed entirely for the worse making it impossible for the People to prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt.” THERE NEVER WAS EVIDENCE! How can NO evidence change for the worse? Over time? Do the voters of El Paso County know how that translates? Let me help…….Bill Elder and Dan May could not lie enough to get reasonable people to believe it! Do voters know why it takes so long? Because May and Elder know that every passing day hurts their VICTIMS financially and emotionally! Not to mention the reputations of the people they lie about.
One day, real (actual) evidence will be made public, in EVERY false charge May and Elder have created.
Voters, please put yourself in the position of the people May and Elder have, and continue to, victimize. Imagine telling your family you are being arrested. Imagine the panic and fear that would spread throughout your home. Imagine how you will be able to try to keep your home, feed your family, provide healthcare to your children. Imagine that everything you have worked for and believed in was taken from you based entirely on lies! Law enforcement takes a special breed of individual. One that risks their very lives to help serve and protect those who can not protect themselves. Imagine that this has been your dream since you were a child, then to have the very agency you work for do their best to distroy you and your family for nothing but political gain?
People of El Paso County, please do your research. Ask your questions. Understand the political connections. Research who vacations together, who is married to whom, what hand feeds what mouth.
Dan May’s and Bill Elders prosecution attempts, knowing the truth, and knowing who the true victims are, is purely political.
Please do not re-elect this corruption. Remember voters, you pay the salaries of these liars, and you pay for the FALSE PROSECUTION ATTEMPTS against their innocent victims. That money is NOT going to your child’s college fund or your parents senior living community. Every fancy suit these liars put on, YOU PAID FOR!
While you are thinking about how corrupt Elder is, also remember that the individual El Paso County Commissioners have endorsed Elder for reelection.
That is, they are supportive of the abuse of power that is taking place. It’s well past time to sweep them all out of office.
I’m hopeful that this website has been shared with Brauchler’s opponents. I’m sure they would be very pleased to be armed with these FACTS about their political opponent. Not only did he and his office maliciously prosecute 3 individuals, but then they kept charges pending on San Agustin and Presley for months, after dismissing the exact same charges against Maketa just days before his trial. Finally, they admit to their “lack of evidence” and dismiss San Agustin’s case, once again, days before his trial; yet Presley’s charges remain. As if that isn’t enough, Brauchler & CO are going to trial yet again on Maketa for no reason other than to seek revenge. All at the cost of the taxpayers. Then, they will wait till days before Presley’s trial and then drop her charges. (For “lack of evidence”). The government has deep pockets and Brauchler isn’t shy about wasting our taxpayer dollars so that he can ruin the lives of innocent people. Somebody should request the phone records and emails of Brauchler, Hurlbert, May and Elder. Brauchler would be shaking in his gubernatorial boots. Is this the type of person we want leading our state?
Before and after shots of Bill Elder still show a fat, old and ugly idiot with a very bad receding hairline! Either way, this piece of shiX DOES NOT look good in uniform nor does he even belong in uniform. He is a disgrace!
It is so very sad all the lives that have been destroyed as a result of his corruption.
ANGLEY FOR SHERIFF!
What people need to realize is that there is a huge “Part 2” to this. This site is all about Elder. But those on the inside know that Elder is not the one calling a lot of the shots at EPSO, and Elder is not the one spreading all of the corruption either. Joe Breister is nearly one-and-the-same as Elder. He’s just as dirty and is trying to stay below the radar so that, if Elder doesn’t run again, he can step forward and run for Sheriff.
Bill Elder believes he is a “Pathfinder”; he used the same word to describe his supporters that worked at the SO under Maketa who fed him information. The term is insulting to those that served as Pathfinders. The proper terms for those who provided information to him should be “spies”, “snitches” or even “informant”…but those don’t sound sexy or honorable. I think he believes he is carrying the torch to illuminate the darkness cast upon the office by Maketa chasing out the evil spirits of the previous regime. Perhaps the evil spirits are more powerful than originally thought as it appears that they have possessed the mighty paladin Elder and corrupted him as he is using the same play book as Maketa. The members of the Sheriff’s Office deserve better than the current administration.
Elder is wearing a US Army badge, and he never served in the Army?
Uh, that is sick. What sort of man has a self-image so low as to pretend to be something he is not, and to pretend so publicly? What sort of Sheriff puts US Army badges on the uniform of the El Paso County Sheriff’s office?
I know USAF officers who were courtmartialed for wearing medals they had not earned or been awarded.
It is sickening to see Elder wear this badge, falsely proclaiming a qualification, and doing it so publicly. What other “qualifications” is he telling lies about?
Where is Darrell Glenn? You know, the County Commissioner who is always talking up his honesty, integrity, and military background. Why is Glenn claiming such honorable qualifications on the one hand, while on the other endorsing such fake and liar for Sheriff ? What a fake Glenn is.
Is all of El Paso County government corrupt?
As I am sure you will all concur … Elder, Borland, Huffor and Kirby will all look FABULOUS in orange jumpsuits!
Right at home with all the other felons!
They are a disgrace!!!
I do not concur. Kirby has never looked fabulous!
Yeah, you’re right. She has always struck me as a very odd ugly version of a Neanderthal. Her buddy Janet Huffor is really no better.
… wish they both would become extinct.
Can someone please explain why Deitz and Mejia had to be “escorted” to HR to get their personal belongings when the County took over the EPSO HR department? Were the higher-ups (Elder, Borland, Breister, Huffor, Kirby) afraid they would take something with them that could be used against the Elder Administration? I mean, these two guys had access to all types of information that Elder would want to keep out of the “wrong hands”. Why all of the sudden do they need to be “escorted”? Sorry, but that just doesn’t add up.
Too many incriminating documents they could have taken with them. Which deputies were “1A” deputies? Did you know that changed a number of times? They are identified by name. But those names have been swapped around. One day you might have been a 1A deputy, and at risk of losing your job if 1A doesn’t get renewed, and the next day that designation could be next to someone else’s name. I’ve seen the lists. Lots of sneaky stuff like that going on.
Bill Elder says in his statement “There is no requirement for these cards to be notarized” then why did you put 1016 people through this nut roll?
If there was no deadline, why did Borland and Huffor commit a felony to get them done so quickly?
Don’t fall for Bill Elders shinny object trick, the turd in in his pocket
And another thing….Kirby said they decline to comment. Why? Why? Why wouldn’t Elder & CO not want to set the record straight if they didn’t do anything wrong? Why on earth would they stay quiet and not comment? Because they are a bunch of lying, corrrupt bast@$#s! That train is getting louder and louder!!
So let me get this straight. We’ve gone from –
1) Nothing to see here, to
2) It was all HR’s fault, to
3) The unfortunate passing (due to cancer) of an EPSO employee, to
4) J. Huffor was aware all along, to
5) Kirby actually notarized Maketa’s commissions, to
5) We’re still notarizing and recording these documents (at least until the current supply is exhausted) – Even though it’s not required.
Wait. Let me guess what’s next:
6) Check is in the mail?
7) The dog ate my homework?
Oh sure, it’s what happens when you’re guilty and have something to hide. The stories just don’t add up!
When a person becomes fidgety, they become defensive, they have trouble keeping their stories straight, they fumble, they blame, they divert attention away from the real reason, they start becoming “too talkative” (if you know what I mean); these are all classic examples of what people do when they have something to hide. We all know, Elder has a lot to hide. That closet of skeletons can only hold so much, and that door is starting to opening ….
Elder thinks he is so smart, be he is highlighting his own stupidity and I think its hilarious!
Seriously???, you nailed it! When one cannot keep their stories straight, they are simply exposing their own guilt. Never, ever, ever does the story remain the same with Elder and his posse. Look back at history since he took office…not once has he kept his story the same when questioned more than one time. Not once!
Elder and Kirby are the King and Queen of “no comment”, “we cannot comment at this time”, “this is an ongoing investigation, we cannot comment”, “we kindly decline to comment”. Don’t believe me? Go back and read the articles.
The proof is in the pudding. Angley (Elder’s VERY QUALIFIED opponent) recently said that Elder refused an invitation to debate him. The debate wouldn’t be until January or February, so it’s not like Elder can say he “already has plans that day”. He’s a corrupt chicken-shit who is scared out of his crazy ass mind. He had no problems debating his opponents during the first round. Now that he has a proven track record that he claims to be proud of, why would he choose not to debate? If you are proud of your accomplishments, and you’ve nothing to hide, then debate Angley! The train is coming…the Karma Train!
All this is interesting. But remember, all the County Commisioners have ALREADY endorsed Elder for re-election. That is more than a year in advance, and months before even the local Republican primaries.
This is EXACTLY the same as HILLARY CLINTON and the DNC.
El Paso Republicans are copying HRC’s example 100%, and the El Paso County Commissioners are part of it, trying to squeeze out any other candidates. Totally corrupt Republican Party. Totally corrupt County Commissioners.
Elder is simply their puppet.
Elder is playing right into his own demise; he is that stupid. Typically, a guilty person will do everything they can to hide their guilt and shame by blaming others, making excuses, repeating themselves, deflecting, denying and even becoming defensive and belligerent, which is exactly what Elder did on Wednesday with the media. He can’t help it; the house of cards is falling apart, and the lies and corruption are being exposed. This aXXhole needs to come clean and own up to his sins!
Thank you to all who are working and have worked to expose this POS and THANK YOU to DIRTYELDER.COM for all you have done. Too many lives and careers have been destroyed because of Elder’s corruption. It has to stop before too many more lives are destroyed.
Elders attack of the Indy, its editor and reporters is the typical response a narcissistic liar would give. Liars hate when the truth about them is exposed, and narcissist always blame others for their actions.
Interesting that Elder writes about his family. Well, if you’re a corrupt public official, the truth eventually will be made public. Elders cares about “his families safety” but does not give a damn about the people he continues to falsely prosecute. Guess what Elder, the people you are dragging through false prosecution, only to protect your image and cover your mistakes, have families too! One day, his wife, children, and grandchildren will see exactly what he did to his VICTIMS innocent wives/husbands, children and grandchildren. When every lie, false arrest, and attempt at false prosecution, along with PROOF is exposed, his family will know why so many people are trying to stop him.
It’s funny that he is so worried about what the small, local papers write, when national papers and news outlets are slowly circling this train wreck, waiting to make their move. Elder is a foolish man to think that he can keep his corruption contained to El Paso County. This whole mess that Elder created, and the harm he has caused multiple families, will make a great Dateline story. As of now, the only people able to speak are Dan May and Elder. Soon the innocent victims will have their voices heard.
INCOMPETANT, INCOMPETANT, INCOMPETANT!
Bill Elder is no better at lying than he is at anything else. He thought he could run the sheriff’s office after being an INCOMPETANT deputy.
Just because you rode in coach a dozen times doesn’t mean your qualified to fly the plane!
He’s nothing more than a MEDIOCRE REAL ESTATE BROKER.
He refers to “THE VILLAGE” on his re-elect me website. Well Bill, that sound you hear outside 27 East Vermijo is The Village. They’re gathering pitchforks and torches and, they’re coming for you!
Curiouser and curiouser (Alice in Wonderland).
It would appear that Elder is digging his hole deeper and deeper with each passing week. Now that he has lied about this notary business, and now that his immediate staff is obviously part of what appears to be a criminal act and coverup, how can Elder possibly survive this?
He can’t. How long before J Huffor and Jackie Kirby decide Elder is no longer worth going to jail over and try to protect themselves? (Hmmm, is it only women that Elder is putting in jeopardy?) How long before they turn on him?
So what will Elder’s puppet masters (i.e., the El Paso County Republican Party) do about this? Answer: Throw him under the bus. He is poisonous to local Republicans. Look to see the local Republicans discard Elder; he will resign before the Republicans meet next year to decide their candidate. He is lame duck.
As to his command staff, and other officers, you probably want to jump sooner than later. If I were you, I sure would not want to be the last one off this sinking ship. Better get your life jackets on now.
A recipe for financial disaster consists of a couple ingredients:
A greedy inept Bill Elder
An incompetent and way overpaid Command Staff
An unqualified Finance staff
And … total lack of transparency
And … the taxpayers get Screwed cleaning up the mess!!!
Elder would be amusing if the mud from his misdeeds didn’t get all over the rest of the honest folks down there. He seems so smug in his beliefs that he is above the law. But…. he forgets one thing. The people who helped him get where he is, his Command staff, helped him get there by turning on their former boss and airing all of his dirty laundry. Is Elder really so dumb as to think that those same turncoats won’t do the same to him if they think they will benefit from it? He also displays his lack of intelligence when he thinks that lying about this latest Notary flap will somehow not be detectable. He’s not only corrupt, he’s not smart enough to know how to stay corrupt and not get caught!
So very true, and the current command staff is as much of the cancer as the sheriff himself. The corrupt good ole’ boy system even extends to the civilians. Take Liz Omeal for instance, she was leaving the jail for two hour lunches with Chief Breister to push for a completely unneeded civilian supervisor position with pay of a Sergeant. Of course the “homie hook up” continues to this day for the select few in Inmate Classification. EPSO has been and still is a viper pit, hopefully this Mike Angley is serious about cleaning up the trash.
It gets better and better. So I clicked on that link you posted to see Elder’s contributors. I had to laugh. A lot. Doesn’t the candidate file that document him or herself? He put his own home address on it. Isn’t that what he was going off on the Independent about? But he files public documents himself with his home address on them. Crazy! A couple other laughable entries: the report lists Thomas DeLuca as working for School District 11 and Joseph Breister as being retired. Huh? Last I checked, they both are on Elder’s command staff. How does one make THAT mistake on a public, mandatory filing? One other entry on that form that is worth questioning. Is Leslie May District Attorney Dan May’s wife? Did the DA and his wife contribute to Elder’s campaign?
Stupid is as stupid does
…. and their stupidity is deep rooted; trust me.
Someone needs to get this information into the right hands. It is doubtful that anyone local will do anything about it. Who at the state level oversees these things? As a taxpayer, I want Elder and the county to answer for this misuse of my tax dollars. Who will hold them accountable? The right questions need to be asked, and when Elder’s people give their usual lip service, then the right documents need to be demanded. Don’t just take them for their word (they lie, FYI). Demand the documents. Demand them from the sheriff. Demand them from the county.
Deputies and all sheriff’s employees, it’s time to act! You’re going to lose your jobs! And soon! Who is more important…this corrupt administration or your family? Rally the troops and demand accountability! There are hundreds of you and only a handful of them. It’s your future, what are you going to do to protect it?
The one that holds them accountable is the voters of this county. By not supporting his re-election, you will stop what he and his regime are doing. He hasn’t violated a law per se (I am only speaking about the issues with the Public Safety Tax or PST, not any other issue that has been brought up…not enough room in this post for those here). He has failed to abide by a section of the county resolution that authorized the PST, specifically he has not provided annual reports and transparency. He has not followed the intent of the funds. Most likely he will spin a tale on how his new units and reallocation of personnel has improved and enhanced the safety of the county, thereby he is in compliance. Nothing has been mentioned of diverting the funds outside of the Sheriff’s Office or for personal use, so it would likely be difficult to prove a malfeasance of office. I would also imagine that there is nothing in the PST county resolution that allows for any penalty for failing to abide by the guidelines established by the PST, so by not following that he is only violating the public trust and not committing a criminal act. As long as he has the Republican Party to support him, he will be okay.
There are a couple options: 1. Contact the Colorado Attorney’s General Office; part of what they are tasked with is the investigation of public officials. If they chose to investigate the matter and found criminal violations, they would most likely be the agency to prosecute. 2. Become involved in the delegate process. One way that he can be stopped is if he has an opponent in the next election; when Elder ran for Sheriff, he was not truly elected by the citizens of El Paso County, but by the Republican delegates at the county convention. There were three Sheriff’s candidates, however, the other two were unable to get at least 30% of the delegates to vote for them, so Elder was the only Republican candidate on the ballot; with no Democratic candidate, he became the Sheriff almost by default. If you become a delegate, you can help get another candidate on the ballot and force Elder to explain himself to the public. If there isn’t another candidate, then the delegates will likely support Elder and he will continue another four years of antics.
I would also like to address your suggestion to the deputies and sheriff’s employees to “act”. While a nice idea, it is not really practical…the problem is not just Elder; it is his command staff as well. Colorado has a statute called “Pleasure of the Sheriff” an old holdover from back in our frontier days that allowed a Sheriff to stand up a posse to go after the bank robbers, cattle rustlers or whatever other scourge of the territory that needed to be dealt with and then he could dismiss them at will once the crisis was over. There is no protection for the deputies; they have no union and are not covered under civil service protection. In essence, you don’t please the Sheriff, you are gone. Dissention in the ranks is frowned upon which makes fighting from inside rather difficult.
I understand what you are saying, however, if the troops band together and demand accountability from their leaders, maybe their voices will be heard. I get that people are afraid. They have bills to pay and mouths to feed. My suggestion is for a group of them to come together and defend themselves. Meet with an attorney first and be ready to file a lawsuit if they are retaliated against. It’s a well known fact that the commissioners will pay them off if they do. So really, it’s a win/win situation.
Dirty Elder thank you for telling the truth about patrol manning- or there lack of.
Please don’t forget about the jail.
Moral is at an all time low and manning is at an all time low. As soon as the new academy was on the floors other deputies back filled other positions in other units and Bureaus. Keeping the staffing of wards at a dangerous level . There are times that wards are “doubled up” that means ONE deputy is watching 2 wards!!!
Either command staff has no clue of whats going on or they do not care. When was the last time you saw a member of command staff on the floors of CJC or walk into a ward?????
Quick. Someone get Elder a shovel.
Anyone know what happened with Angley’s interviews with the Independant and the Gazette? One would assume that those interviews would reveal more corruption. Maybe Elder, in his usual fashion, got them shut down.
This comment is to the dedicated men and women, sworn and civilian of the EPSO. You folks are the reason this office is operating even with morale at the lowest level ever, and with absent leaders.
Continue to be watchful of your brothers and sisters. Just know once there is a change in command, you will have the best available staff, leaders who support their troops from the front, not from an office, They will train their folks to excel and to mentor others to become the leaders of tomorrow.
It is sad the sheriff encourages employees to participate and support the candidate of their choice, as long as it is him and his agenda. I am hearing anyone who is backing the other candidate, Mike Angley is being watched and treated very differently by staff. This is wrong!
What is the sheriff afraid of will come out about him or his staff. Watch and listen, their is more information coming in about questionable behaviors that is being verified.
Stay strong folks, Karma is real.
And the Academy Award for Best Actor in an EPSO farewell video goes to…………..Chief Joe!
But then again, he’s been acting like an Undersheriff since 2015.
Wow brothers and sisters. Take the time to read the latest article on the Angley website. If you were not a supporter yet, you will be after seeing how the higher up’s are taking care of their own gain. They have failed in hiring practices, over payment to friends, and have done nothing to correct this issues when identified.
Is this the type of office you want to support. Do not compromise your values and integrity, you know who you are and why you took this job.
Read the article and make your own informed decision about who to support. Could this be the information that the DA can no longer ignore, or will another agency be coming in to verify this possible fraud and conspiracy. Just look in the mirror and ask yourself, what do you stand for? Are you part of the problem, or are you going to be part of the solution?
Wow. Kirby using CCIC to get info on friends? Enemies? Who was she checking up on? They are allowed to break the law and not get in trouble. This sounds like Hillary. Does Bill Elder have his own Email server? When is the media going to get on this and start reporting what is going on?
Jackie Kirby! Shame on you! Giving orders to do something illegal! Sounds a lot like Maketa or Presley ordering San Agustin to falsely arrest someone. Oh wait that NEVER happened and this actually did. Maybe you should have “ghosted” into CCIC then you wouldn’t have gotten caught. Karma is such a big ole Bitch.
Remember though, she (Kirby) and the others never ordered Rick Dietz or Dave Mejia to notorize those affidavits. Of course they wouldn’t….OH!….Oooops!
I think Borland needs to just quit at this point. All that noise he is hearing at night and following him is karma, and it’s getting closer and closer. Jacki, wow she has done is so wrong and there cannot be any good reason other than ego. She too has to be hearing voices close by, can you say you have the right to remain silent.
Word is there will be some major opening at the upper level, but this will just be filled by a continuation of cronyism. It will put the office in even worse moral danger than ever before.
To the dedicated people of the office hang in there, change will come and you can be a big part of it by participating in the process and become a delegate for the outsider, Mike Angley. Compare his record and make your own decision. Four more years of this B/S or seeing hope coming over the horizon.
Mike Angley is going to have a lot of replacing to do. Breister, Deluca, most commanders, chiefs, even some Lieutenants and Sergeants. I’m sure the public would also love to know why a civilian, Liz O’Neil, was given an unnecessary made up supervisory position and getting paid more than a sworn senior deputy. Why is it sworn deputies are being paid to do a civilian’s job like in accreditations or technical support. That’s mismanagement of money at its finest but you know….the homie hookup, screw everyone else right?
They even gave that arrogant Jackie Kirby a vehicle with emergency lights and siren. And I’ve seen her use them, despite having NO training in emergency vehicle operation and no justification for driving emergent. But, when you have enough “dirt” on the Sheriff that she does, she gets her way.
Hope Kirby is claiming that as income and Sheriff Elder is reporting that as additional income for her. IRS regulations require that non sworn employees issued a take home car are required to report it as a monetary benefit and earned income. The Sheriff is responsible for implementing a process for reporting the fringe benefit as income. Only sworn personnel with a first response expectation are exemp from the fringe benefit income of a take home car. Oops….maybe the next investigation against Kirby and Elder should be tax evasion. Probably ought to add Janet Huffor and Borland to that investigation.
I hear Elder is drinking heavy again. Some say he even shows up at work still hung over from the night before. Of course he usually shows up around 10. It’s interesting that Porter, Huffor, and the other usually suspects are keeping a low profile. They are all scared of what is going to be posted in the website next. Keep up the good work. When is the Huntz trial and what ever happened with Tim Williams, I hear he is filling a lawsuit as well. Any news about that?
When asked for suggestions on how best to “tackle mental illness, Commander Kramer should have suggested that Elder take a good, long look in the mirror.
It’s been said that Elder is questioning his staff to see who is loyal. They must all be lying to him. Seems things that only the staff should know about are getting out at an exceptionally fast rate. Yikes! Who should he trust?
Bwaa haa haa haa…… Hilarious! Who are his command staff? Several of them are the same turncoats who outed Maketa when they felt it would benefit them personally. And Elder brought them on thinking them would never do the same to him. What a poor poor ignorant man. Loyal to him? Yeah, sure buddy, you keep thinking your staff will be loyal to you and wait and see what happens!
Congratulations (once again) to our local media (i.e. The Gazette, KRDO, etc.) for attempting to bury over this weekend the continuous blunders being made by the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office.
1) $15k being paid to a woman assaulted at the County Courthouse (“We thought there was at least some chance that we would have some liability,” he said, adding that the settlement was “in the best interest of saving taxpayer’s money” and preferable to a potentially costly legal battle – Dave Rose – EPC PIO).
2) The audit showing that the new medical contract (brilliantly negotiated by former EPSO Director of Fiscal Compliance Brian McPike – he of ABSOLUTELY NO background in finance) is falling WAY below expectations. SHOCKING…
BTW – Colorado Springs Media Outlets…we’re not stupid. We notice these things.
MERRY CHRISTMAS, SHERIFF SMELLDER!!!!!!!
I’ve been reading this website for the last 24 hours. I would like to thank whoever put this up. This is the true voice of El Paso County sheriffs department. After reading all these posts I think what’s about to happen is fate. My civil rights have been violated officer Gerhart . DA Dan May has held frivolous charges over my head.. He has use is official position to push his own personal bias and target my companies.. I have over 100 Cora requests that have never been answered by Kirby.. She tried to charge me 40,000 for Emails and request 20gs down.. Lmao.. I seen multiple times ppl say Cora need to be filed.. I have gone through this they will never release anything that will implicate them in any corruption .. This just proves conspiracy to cover up and commit corruption. However when we file for discovery in our civil case they will have to answer these questions. It is very clear the oath of office violations are a direct assault on the Constitution of the United States. I also plan on going after the board of County commissioners. For I have asked for their help multiple times and have never got a reply back. 42 USC 1985 1986 .. if there are questions you would like to see come out in discovery please reply to this thread. I will be going through this website with a fine tooth comb. Give me fuel to add to the fire. I am 100 percent sure the sheriffs apartment is corrupt to the bone. I am also 100 percent sure Gerhart is it idiot since I caught him in multiple lies on my video. His testimony at the Mikita Trial was a joke. And he should not even be an officer. The fact that he was not put on the Brady list because his wife works at the DAs office is some bullshit . If Dan May did his job. Gearhart would not of been in the position to deprive me under the color of law my civil liberties. The Media will cover my lawsuit and we will be calling a press conference.. This lawsuit is one of a kind I know the press will cover it. I can’t believe they have not cover the Oath of office fraud..
The best thing to do is give everyone an equal pay raise.
If you’re unable to give a raise to everyone, then here is the “Right thing to do”. Use the money to give a raise or bonus to the civilian employee’s in the pay grades of 9 through 12. These are the workers below supervisory level.
Everyone received a 2% raise in 2016, this was a COLA that had been in the works and had nothing to do with Mr Elder. Some sworn pay grades also got an additional raise as a result of the front range survey. The primary reason behind this was to eclipse CSPD patrol officer pay and lure recruits.
If you have additional funds from the BOCC, it’s time to take care of the civilian/non-sworn in the lower pay grades. These folks get a pay bump once they complete thieir six month probation and thats it. They are the structure of the office and paid the least for their work.
Do the right thing, take care of them.
While we’re on the topic of our BOCC – Can anyone shed any light on the admission during the 2/21/18 BOCC meeting that the EPSO surprisingly did not receive close to $1 million from the 911 Authority? It appeared that Commissioner Littleton was onto something as she questioned the dynamic EPSO Fiscal Director Jane Fromme (only to have her fellow commissioners sit on their respective hands). Why were those expected (and budgeted) funds withheld fr0m the EPSO. Is this just another example of financial mismanagement? Or yet another example of Sheriff Bill’s amazing ability to screw the pooch when it comes to working with other County entities??
Seriously???, this is interesting information, and you pose a great question. Can you clarify the date of this BOCC meeting? 2/21/18?
And a lot of them are incredibly underpaid for what they do. Look at what’s going on in dispatch right now! To say it is understaffed is an understatment. We are at critical staffing levels. There are less employees working there now than there are employees who have left dispatch this year.
Supposedly we have burned through the budget, but how the hell can we when we are at and below minimum staffing basically every single day?? When people are having to take overtime shifts just so someone else can take their holiday time?
Elder has basically given a giant middle finger to dispatchers. Newsflash, if you chase all of the dispatchers away then you lose the brain of your organization. There is a reason dispatchers are essential personnel.
Very interesting article in the Independent about the PST or 1A tax. How has Bill Elder managed the 1A money? There are no more deputies patrolling the county than there were in 2012. There are not enough deputies to run the jail. The attrition rate has skyrocketed but there is a silver lining, if a crime occurs at any “Coffee with a Cop” there will be more than enough Law Enforcement on hand to make an arrest.
Just caught Bill Elder’s interview – looking glassy-eyed as ever (another rough night, Billy Boy?) with KRDO that initially aired 1/2/18 10pm about his new-found focus on illegal marijuana growers and busting illegal marijuana growing operations. “The next piece is manpower,” Elder said. “The commissioners allocated over $100,000 in overtime. And that will help significantly.” So if I understand this train of thought correctly…you need another $100k (on top of your $50+ million budget and your brilliant handling of our tax payers 1A money that was intended to provide “manpower”) in order pay your deputies? That just doesn’t add up. By the way, Sheriff…way to dress-up for the interview. Perhaps that uniform of yours is getting a little tight – especially around the collar.
The Sheriff also added, “We’re done. We’re done,” Elder said.
Your “done” alright.
Amazing!! Sounds like several commanders within the Elder higharchy are being reassigned. These moves come at a time when staffing level are critical. Now you move folks into positions where they have either never worked or have no expertise. Wow, losing confidence in the Elder administration more and more everyday. When are the rest of the citizens of this county going to wake up and take off the blinders. This office is in a dangerous downward spiral.
Makes a citizen think good people are being punished for standing up to bill. Leading by intimidation went out of style generations ago. How is this working for you, Bill? Look behind yourself sometime, I bet the group following you could all fit in a volkswagon.
I hear you were voted most likely not to succeed. How is that CBI investigation going? All your protected people been interviewed yet? The only question is, how is this story going to end.
Hope everyone noticed how Bill Elder took the horribly tragic death of Deputy Zachari Parrish, to campaign for sheriff in the next election on his Facebook page. Literally saying, “please share this message. Urge them to support my efforts to be re-elected. Tag yourself to this post and make it go viral.” It is deplorable that he used the death of a deputy as a moment to campaign. Deplorable, but not surprising. Unfortunate, sad, and desperate. Sheriff Elder, where’s your integrity?
Absolutely nothing is beyond Elder anymore, Francis. And it’s apparent that a definite pattern has formed: He used the death of a former EPSO Sergeant as a poor excuse for his Office’s notary scandal. Now he utilizes this recent tragedy in Douglas County order to further his message. Hell, he even notes that one of his individual supporters has “passed” on his re-election website. It brings to mind the following quote by C.C. Franklin…
“I do not have respect for you who takes advantage of the soul that is kind and giving, for it is you who takes such liberties that becomes the ultimate fool.”
Ironic that the office paid a sexual harassment and retaliation settlement to a female deputy just months before the entire nation is in an uproar over sexual harassment and retaliation of females in the workplace. I hope this serves as a macro-universal sign for that female deputy and other female deputies who have endured the rath of this office and the way harrassors are protected and keep their employment while the harassed are retaliated against and paid to leave. Ironic too that the harrasors have no where to go but EPSO (because they are raised and bred in that environment) but the females can use their skills to find meaningful employment because they refuse to be a part of that system. I hope it also serves as confirmation to the men who are able to get away with this behavior and the Chain of Command who supports it that YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED. The entire nation is catching on. This is the next civil rights movement and there were women at EPSO who weren’t afraid to stand up to it even before it was supported nationwide. To the women who contribute and support this behavior by not standing up to it or by furthering the cause by sleeping with married men or by failing to report, or female sergeants who intimidate during investigations (all true and on record)…shame on you too! Your days are also numbered! EPSO is the poorest example of Character First!
No doubt Elder is corrupt. But he is also incompetent. Both these are obvious from all the “confusion” and course reversals on pay, overtime, etc.
The Republican County Commissioners are also on the take. Likewise the District Attorney Office, and many in the judiciary.
Don’t believe it? Watch. Terry Maketa’s retrial is about to start–January 22nd I think. So somewhere just prior to that date, say the 19th or so, the DA office will announce it will drop the charges because of lack of something or other.
Then, down the road a little, just before her trial begins, charges against Paula Presley will also be dropped.
And then, the lawsuits will begin. Get out the checkbook.
You may have a point. One would believe that Dirty Elder wouldn’t want his dirty laundry aired AGAIN right before the big gathering of republicans who will be voting to retain him or not. Especially when he has a very qualified opponent who so far has proven he will not hold back on his criticism of Elder. It will be a perfect platform for his opponent to highlight Elder’s misdeeds. Elder will most definitely be a witness again, so it will be a show to watch for sure. And Elder won’t want Jackie Kirby (who is under investigation herself) to get on the stand either to highlight more corruption on his part. But then again, he’s not the brightest bulb, so anything is possible!
Well folks, looks like we have a choice to make. On March 6th, stand up as a delegate and vote for a change or…………………. wait a few short months for Mr. Elder to have you stand up and count off by 3’s.
Just got done reading the latest story about pay raises. Isn’t the majority of civilians female? Plus, all of Bill Elder’s command staff and most of his LT and SGTs are men. Is this nothing more than Sexism by Bill Elder? I’ve heard some civilians have not had a pay raise since Elder took office, is that true? I can’t believe that. If true, Elder is a big fat liar. He needs to be replaced. Employees need to become republican delegates and vote for Angley. Find out how.
With all the transparency of a burlap bag, notice what occurred at the last Thursday’s BOCC Meeting:
AGENDA (paying attention to item #10)
Board of County Commissioners (“BOCC”) Meeting
Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:00 AM
Call to Order.
2. Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America.
3. Staff Emergency Items.
4. Changes/Postponements/Notice of Next Meeting.
5. Comments by Elected Officials and Commissioner Liaison Report(s).
6. Community Service Organization Reports.
7. Consent Calendar
8. Proclamation recognizing iInspire Day in El Paso County. (Mark Waller – President Pro Tempore, Board of County Commissioners)
9. Called-Up Consent Calendar.
10. Resolution to recognize revenue and appropriate expenditures in the amount of $603,403 from the High Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas (HIDTA) Federal Grant to the Sheriff’s Office 2018 budget. (Sherri Cassidy – County Controller, Administration and Financial Services/Larry Borland – Administrator, Sheriff’s Office
MEETING RESULTS (paying attention to item #4)
Board of County Commissioners (“BOCC”) Meeting
Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:00 AM
PRESENT: GLENN, WALLER, VANDERWERF, GONZALEZ AND LITTLETON
Call to Order.
THE INVOCATION WAS GIVEN BY DONNIE THOMASSON.
2. Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America.
3. Staff Emergency Items.
4. Changes/Postponements/Notice of Next Meeting.
ITEM NO. 10 WAS WITHDRAWN BY STAFF
There was no reason given and no questions asked as to why this item was “withdrawn.” Is there a problem, Sheriff?
These 3 guys represent law enforcement? Gross! Most men look good in a uniform; these guys are nasty! The one on the right looks like a child molester, the one in the middle looks like Bozo and the guy on the left looks like a perverted librarian from the 40’s. If this is the new face of law enforcement, I’m not interested!
No surprise the county has a lawyer representing them that rubs shoulders on her off time with the likes of these 3. She must be a real winner to put her career on the line for them. What is their connection? There must be something in it for her if she’s assisting them with suing the very entity who signs her paychecks.
Looks like their dirty little plan backfired.
Your TIME IS UP EPSO! To the few women who said “me too” and faced the corruption and harassment and the few men who listened, good for you! To the many women who allow it to take place and the many men who don’t listen; YOUR TIME IS UP! Nation wide attention will silence your shameful participation and support of harassment and corruption and will give voice to those who have stood up and said “Me Too” and to those that did listen!
The original law suit was done in an effort to get Sheriff Maketa and Undersheriff Presley escorted out of the office pending the law suit. The original thought was that if they filed a lawsuit and an EEOC complaint, the county attorney’s office or the Board of County Commissioners would remove the accused from their position pending the resolution of the case. It backfired; apparently it was easier to put the complainants on paid administrative leave than it was to remove the source of the complaint. Their plan backfired a second time; the lawsuit added their new champions Bill Elder and Joe Breister to the suit since they were the newly anointed Sheriff and Undersheriff. They received some reward; they were brought back when Elder et al came on board and Commander Lincoln was even promoted to Bureau Chief.
From the 2/8/17 edition of the Colorado Springs Independent:
Could El Paso County get caught in Trump’s immigration policy?
El Paso County could be forced to choose between violating the Constitution or sacrificing federal grant money. “That won’t change,” (Bill) Elder told the Indy after the order came down. To be clear, his office doesn’t honor warrantless detainers, participate in the 287(g) program or have any intent to do so.
From yesterday’s (1/23/18) BOCC Meeting (Executive Session)
a. Pursuant to C.R.S. §24-6-402(4)(b) and (e), an Executive Session is requested of the Board of County Commissioners regarding existing El Paso County Sheriff’s Office procedures regarding the detention of possible illegal immigrants in the El Paso County Jail and current cooperation with federal authorities, for the following purposes:
1. Conference with the County Attorney’s Office for the purpose of
receiving legal advice on specific legal questions including but not limited to Constitutional parameters surrounding the detention of possible immigrants by State and local authorities.
Why the apparent change of heart, Sheriff Elder? Having a problem securing Federal funds/grants due to your 287(g) stance? Or is the challenge of a much better qualified and informed opponent beginning to take it’s toll? Regardless, I certainly hope for all of us that you’re not receiving “campaign” advice on the County’s dime.
And now we know –
” WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department is again ramping up pressure on cities seeking public safety grants to prove they are cooperating with immigration authorities.
Officials on Wednesday sent letters to jurisdictions warning that the department could use subpoena power to force them to provide documents showing they aren’t withholding information about the immigration status of people in custody.
The Justice Department has threatened to deny important grant money from communities that refuse to share such information”
Sounds like the $603,403 from the High Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas (HIDTA) Federal Grant (and the overtime it was going to pay for) might be jeopardy. Bummer.
It appears you’ve broken the code. After your post in regards to the executive session concerning 287g and illegal immigration, POOF! Today we have a new policy (414) which suggests we’ve changed course and will now be tough on illegal immigration.
Elder pandered to the Hispanic vote for an endorsement then pulls the rug out, sound familiar? Angley is scaring the stuffing out of him.
Since you’ve broken the code, would you please do a post on how useless Janet Huffor is so we can be rid of her too.
Dear EPSO brass (specifically Detentions),
We are not stupid, dumb or blind.
HOW MANY WOMEN HAVE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT HARRASSMENT FROM YOUR SWING SHIFT LT?????
When will you wake up and stop it? A huge multi victim lawsuit? If YOU do nothing YOU are complicit in all his actions. How many complaints are you going to sweep under your rug? (I’m sure there is no more room under there)
And news flash…. its common knowledge YOUR SWING shift LT is messing around with a Nurse, Does he even have time to work during his shift? He is too busy spending time with her!
He has a horrible reputation for being a flirt and a womanizer, and you have let him loose in CJC.
SHAME. SHAME on you all.
Ladies….speak up, tell your story- go to county HR so his buddies can not protect him anymore. And take Dirtyelders advice. Get an attorney.
Enough is enough.
Well lets take a look at all the latest news about law suits against the present sheriff. It seems his attorney got a delay on the federal suit against Elder and King so the trial will now be after the county assembly. Amazing how and why this has happened. If this trial were to be held before the assembly, this would have been certain destruction of the Elder group, to include all his staff and the Huffors. This would be a good thing for the dedicated folks holding the office together while the overpaid parties like there is no end.
You have a sheriff and a chief of police who have both had major lawsuits paid out over the poor treatment of their staffs with more to come. Wake up people, do we really want four more years of reading about scandals on a daily basis. I would think you would want an office you can support and be proud of for years to come.
If you allow Elder to continue in his present position, shame on you for not having the integrity and grit to say enough is enough. Stand up at your caucus and support the man who can bring change plus support the professional people of the office. Or, you can hang your head for not taking the stand for change and regret this decision.
Its your decision, I know where I stand, do you.
To Anonymous’ comment on Jan 24. Would thatswing shift Lts first name be “John “?
I recall working with a supervisor named John who could always be found in a female employees office instead of his own. How can the office reward this conduct? Shame on him and the command staff who put him in a leadership role.
My My My,
Looks like another harassment suit will make the news “AGAIN” this coming week. When will these people wise up and understand you do not troll where you work.
As a wise old Lt once stated, he would draw a big circle and say inside here the sheriff’s office. Then draw a bigger second circle. He would say this is outside the office. If you are going to fool around do it out here and not inside the office, and surely not with anyone there from the office.
But as you can see this lesson has been forgotten. What do you have, a bunch of protected whore dogs that cannot be around females alone at the office.
Too bad the Huntz suit got delayed. Wonder how this is going to affect the outcome of the election? Just because it was delayed does not mean it went away or is being forgotten.
My My My
Take a look at Mike Angley’s website, Very interesting article about 1A.
If sheriff Elder is correct about the IA file, then Ms. Kirby committed perjury because she stated she heard Paula had the file. What a mess.
…a “sick” child? Please…
Definition of “Corruption”:
– “dishonest or illegal behavior especially by powerful people (such as government officials) : inducement to wrong by improper or unlawful means (such as bribery)”
Definition of “Transparent”:
– “free from deceit (frank): easily detected or seen through (obvious): characterized by accessibility of information especially concerning business practices”
Is anyone (or everyone?) else having a problem with this latest “delay” in the Maketa proceedings? Just one more instance of this County not being held to the same standards as the rest of us. And they only have themselves to blame for our doubt.
Bill Elder committed perjury too, While on the stand he said he did not know about the IA because he had already retired before the investigation started. I believe he used the term “retired” to build trust with the jury knowing full well he quit to avoid the IA. Therefore hr purposely chose to use the term “retired” in a very purposeful and dishonest way to earn credit for a long successful career that he did not infact earn.
You are Correct, bill elder did not retire. He quit to avoid an IA investigation. He knew he was going to have to take a Polygraph and he was afraid of what that might turn up. He later cashed in his retirement which means he currently has no retirement. If he does not get reelected he will not qualify for a retirement. Maybe that’s why he is stealing so much? 60 year old Elder only has Social Security. How is he going to pay for all the liquor he drinks? We hear he is drinking more and more; he drinks so much he still has alcohol in his system when he comes into work the next day. bill elder is a liar and has committed perjury. They will do what ever it takes. It’s our understanding the only reason elder took the stand was to show the others he would lie as well.
After reading the post in regards to Elders management of the Public Safety Tax on Mike Angley’s website “Irregularities Jan 30th”, there is only one choice left for us. Become an Angley delegate on March 6th. Sitting on the sidelines waiting for the general election won’t help. If not, those of us that are left can change our collar brass from EPSO to EPSP Elders Pink Slip Parade.
When the Public Safety Tax sunsets, so will our jobs. Elder will no doubt gather us together in a room much like the day he announced the 2014 promotion results, he’ll sob and say it’s not my fault and how the voters let us down. Elder, Borland and the Huffors will wave good-bye from the fifth floor.
But it is their fault, become a delegate or count off by three’s
Questions, The Medical Company Armor took over for antoher company, Did that company just win a $3,000,000 law suit against EPSO?
Sooo…. The Office is now accepting donations for Deputy Flick’s family. Rest in Peace brother.
But… the money is to be funneled through the “El Paso County Sheriff’s Office Foundation Incorporated.” Sounds rather innocuous at first glance. But is it? What is this Foundation and where did it come from?
I checked the Colorado SOS website for this business entity and found that it was formed on April 20, 2017 (yeah… “420” day) by “Robert D Johnson.” If it has been around for that long, what was it formed to do? Why? What have they been doing since then? Is this part of some of the back room deals of Elder’s? An amendment was filed today, saying the Foundation is to allow for donations to 501(c)(c) organizations or, upon dissolution of the Foundation, to give all funds to a 501(c)(3) or a government organization, like the Office. That amendment is dated, hilariously, on “February 8, 2018,” a date that has yet to come, given that today is February 6, 2018.
I think this deserved looking into. Anyone got any info?
Jackie Kirby…once again you’ve proven yourself to be a phony POS.
Yeah,,,we caught you yucking it up with the media on FOX 21 Friday @ 9pm (the night before Deputy Flick’s funeral). It was embarrassing enough for the anchors to cut away – and not return. Do you truly have no shame? And were all your tears this week just another one of your little “performances” before the cameras?? You should be ashamed.
A MUST READ Message to the Citizens regarding Sexual Harrasment at the EPSO! Pay particular attention to the Day 1 agenda.
To some, be hopeful!
To others, be afraid!
Well, I just read the latest blog on Mr. Angley’s website about this weeks Lieutenant meeting. It seems Mr. Elder believes he has inside information on Angley’s plan for the office should he prevail.
Two things stand out as laughable on the part of the dude currently holding the sheriff’s seat (Let’s not kid ourselves and call him a leader).
1. It would seem that the one with inside information is Mr. Angley. He knows what was said in every meeting that takes place at 27 East Vermijo almost as it’s happening. The last time we saw a leak of this magnitude a guy named Noah built himself a boat!
2. As Mr. Angley states, “At least I have a plan” true we don’t know what it is but at face value it sounds better than counting off by three’s.
The only thing that’s gone up in our world is the number of Lieutenants, Sergeants and other assorted staff positions along with their salaries. Oh yes I should also mention the attrition rate. I’ve had enough of Elder and his band of misfits to include his son-in-law Little Billy.
“Where there is anger, there is underlying pain.
Where there is denial, there is underlying fear.
Where there is abuse, there is cover-up.”
The pursuit of gratification from vanity or egotistic admiration of one’s own attributes.
Quotes from Sheriff bill elder last week:
“I knew what this would feel like”
“I knew the emptiness”
“I think the men and women in this job understand that this job may ask them to sacrifice their life”
“I get one shot of making this right for him” Elder remarked.
No “we”…No “us”…No “together”
It’s speaks volumes, folks…he’s not thinking about you. He’s only thinking about himself. Now it’s time to think about your next Sheriff. “We” have an option.
Maybe its time to start breaking down some of the lies and stretches being made by the present man in charge. So was a really a career law enforcement guy as he claims? Why did he leave the office if he was dedicated to the profession? If you are a professional you begin and end your career with the same agency. Do your own fact checking.
Was the time keeping issue the only problem during his days at VNI? Heard he refused to take an exit Polygraph.
If the man is really the hometown boy, why not act like one not only on camera, a stage or for publicity. I think a hometown boy would put the interests and safety of his personnel before any personal gain. How often has the average member of this office seen the sheriff visit their work site and talk about their concerns and ambitions? No, this man is more concerned about the wants and desires of the fifth floor and protecting his chosen few.
Do not forget folks, he was able to get a delay in the federal trial coming up, the office has no way of prevailing, so delaying was the only option. It maybe be delayed, but its has not been forgotten. How much is this one going to cost the county.
Wake up people, is this why we pay taxes, to support a leader who leads from the back of the train and not the front. A smart man once said,” if its predictable, its preventable.”
What are your thoughts for the next 4 years, more predictable behavior.
Do the right thing Larry Borland!
Do you really think we believe Rick Dietz, David Mejia and one of the most beloved and trusted Lieutenants to ever work at the EPSO are liars or is it you?
Stop cleaning up after your friend Bill Elder. You jump every time he screams “Wipe Me”. The two of you have become a two headed snake!
Last chance Larry Borland, Do the right thing!
Duncan – I really don’t think there’s any reason to be so hasty with your “opinions.”
I’m sure that Sheriff Elder, Larry Borland, Janet Huffor et al are actually having Deputy Flick’s fraudulently notarized Commission Card (The Independent November 10, 2017 – “In May 2016, we had a deputy dying of cancer, and we wanted to pay a tribute to him and his wife and provide a framed copy of his oath of office””) framed as we speak in order to present to the Flick family.
Rest in Peace, Micah.
First time? Ok. The administration was definitely at fault in this case for not getting rid of this person a lot sooner. She didn’t win, it was a settlement. It was too costly to fight it in court. She knew the evidence they had against her, all the information to include video and recordings of the inmate and deputy relationship she established. She knew all that would be exposed, Ms. White House could not possibly be embarrassed in court. A settlement is an agreement which includes no discussion on her part thereafter but it appears she failed. This situation does not relate to the #MeToo movement so just stop. Is she regretting her decision now and can’t move on?
The administration received numerous complaints from employees of the way she harassed those around her. After she filed this claim she logged everything and reported everyone around her for frivolous reasons, this caused tension at work. Those around her were ordered to keep professional and to be nice. She reported excessive force on situations which created wasted hours of investigation and argued blatantly with people causing scenes at work. She walked around acting untouchable for months because the administration allowed it. You’re right! Shame on them for not defending the employees from a liar and a harasser. She posed as a victim when she victimized so many. She was a tyrant especially against SRT members. This is all well known and celebrations occur in the quiet corners of the jail and courthouse of her departure.
Retaliation and harassment? That’s what she did. She drank the kool-aid more than anybody there, that’s why it was so important that she left. She was embarrassed, she needed to be known as a wonderful employee and she was far from that.
The SRT Lt. DID NOT lose her tabs because of her, don’t flatter yourself. It was a personal choice after a UOF investigation concluded.
The demoted SRT Sgt. was offered his job back after she left. He turned it down, smart man. The administration knew the County HR investigation was not conducted correctly. It was their first and it caused the ones after this one to be handled very differently. She did not win anything but settled on less than a year’s salary that was taxed down to what? A 4 month salary, just to go away. Who won here?
There is an ongoing situation very similar, a female civilian possibly having a relationship with an inmate. She felt the heat of the investigation and now threatening to sue. Our administration again is backing off of her. We must not fear these folks that want to sue! We should defend what is right, fight back and get rid of these corrupt individuals like this woman you speak of in your post. She should have been booted much earlier but she filed a lawsuit and spewed false allegations and that unfortunately protected her.
Last I checked she left a lot of adoration for the Huffors on Facebook too. Until they deleted her. She weaseled her way into every event needing to be the center of attention. Stalk her Facebook, it is rampant with the koolaid stains.
Mentioning the Huffors should not be enough to post a comment, check the facts.
Btw, the married couple you speak of are one of the best supervisors this agency has witnessed. I have worked with and for both of them. They do the gritty work that other supervisors would never do. They’re the first one in cells and the first to stand up for us. Stop the lies and move on with your life. Better yet over coffee you and this Sexual Harassment instructor should discuss fact checks before sharing falsities. Get over it.
Concentrate on the corruption. Why did we lose money on this? Maybe the administration should fight against false allegations.
At Move On! And so the support of Harassment continues. I’m not sure how the victim you speak of has moved on, however I am sure that it is one of the mentioned Sergeants (who also took part in harassment, intimidation, retaliation at the jail) is who wrote this post. Your words prove the deep support of harassment and the lack of sincerity in investigating harassment. Also, the SRT Sergeant was demoted, so how was he offered back the position of SRT Sergeant. And if the office truly did make this offer, shame on the process for holding proven harassers accountable. Anyone who knew the female deputy, would stand by her character would never allow her to fraternize with an inmate. And accusation she was never removed from her position for or demoted for. Trust me, if there was an investigation into the sergeant and his process found him to be guilty and demoted, then I assure you there was an investigation regarding his accusations as well. If you believe that the office will settle with someone just to get them out of their way and send them on their way; then why is her case the ONLY case to have settled. Truth is, he was founded to have harassed her, it was known he had harassed other women, and he was punished. The office settled because they did not want the embarrassment of what her case would reveal about the workplace conditions at EPSO. If she settled for less than what you think she should have, maybe it wasn’t about the money for her. Perhaps it was about being validated by an office wanting to make things right and chose to just do what you said and “move on.”
Listen, my original post was never primarily about the women who stood up to a corrupt office and won, it was about the degradation of a handful of good deputies once they get promoted and the connections they make in order to secure their futures, connections that are without morals or merit. The two sergeants mentioned may be first in cells and may support deputies, in order to maintain the appearance of their value at work, but they have aligned themselves with the political corruption that sweeps the office.
Shame on you too for faulting a female deputy (who was founded to have been harassed) for logging incidents occurring against her and reporting them. If she caused tension amongst the harasser and retaliators (from the SRT all the way the Chain of Command), good for her for taking the tension they caused in her career and facing them. If the harrasors and intimidators at the jail and courthouse are relieved she is gone, that only comes from the relief they feel knowing they kept their jobs and only had to attend Mandatory Title 7 and retaliation classes. I’m sure her relief comes from somewhere else, to be away from an office you seem to defend while victims make claims.
The civilian and the lieutenant, come on, really, all of us still here at EPSO who have been here for a while know his reputation of being a womanizer and harrasor himself. So now his victim is accused of being inappropriate with an inmate as well?!?! Is this the fallback when women report?
Your post only further reveals the environment there and the way it is sickly supported. It only reveals those who have drank the koolaid and who are still drinking the koolaid and how the toxic environment can be manipulated in order to support the corruption and revictimize the victims. Odd, that you, an obvious koolaid drinker, would acuse someone who faced the office and won of drinking koolaid. I assure you she was drinking saltwater the entire time, as you yourself know, because you yourself intimidated a female deputy by reminding her of what the command staff could do to her for alligbing with that female deputy.
You also revealed what Mike Angley will review when he comes to office, that all harrasment fikes need to be reviewed to ensure justice was served.
Change will come in only a matter of time! It always does!
At Move on, simply for the thoroughness of attending to the requests made in your comment, I did stalk the female deputies FB page for the “koolaid stains” and mentioned and her weaseling into events you mentioned. The only post I saw of her at an event was when she received a Life-Saving Award from the office; an event you have to be invited to after a supervisor or co-worker nominated you for the award. I also saw a congratulations for her A Banding for court, an event you have to test for. I actually attended that same board and one of the most well repspected and disciplined Lts in the office, I assure you, did not allow anyone to weasel through. I also saw a post someone she trained in the jail tagged her in that seemingly encouraged her and thanked her for training her, a trainer in the jail does not weasel in, they are selected. Ironically, I did not see the post when I just scrolled far enough back on her page, but I do remember both the male sergeant and the female sergeant tagging her in their promotion ceremony pictures and promotion dinners. Was she a weasel for supporting them? Yet, when she reported harassment, they each took part in the intimidation process of a shift and of female deputies, because just like I mentioned in my first post, a certain amount of leadership in the sergeant ranks are carrying the messages for a corrupt command staff and administration. AGAIN, my original post and follow/up posts were never primarily about the female deputy and her facing the office. That was only used as an example of how deep the corruption can go and how it can turn good deputies into future corrupt leaders who continue to carry the torch of the corrupt leaders who create them. The “untouchables” if you may. The word you used to describe the female deputy who faced the untouchables and yet you say she acted “untouchable” – I think you are confusing that with her holding her head high and continuing to work while she faced the untouchables.
The tension you speak of in the office, come on, really, you are going to give a victim the extra burden of creating the tension?!?! The tension is still here and has been here for years. It comes from the harrasors and work place hostility and the “untouchables” who make it hard for good employees to concentrate and work.
The focus of my post is to reveal the issue at its deepest level, that the corruption is bread and continues to be. Your comment proves it! There are real issues here at EPSO and they won’t change until someone makes it unpopular for people like you to victimize victims and support harrasors.
I was on the Honor Guard with the female deputy, one of my best assignments in the office still today. Once chosen for the team, we all attend events (often in our personal time) to represent the office in the public. Are we “weasels” for marching in the cold during the Christmas Parade while EPSO families get to enjoy the festivities they deserve to enjoy. Are we “weasels” for attending funerals of fallen officers and for escorting deputies during the awards ceremony that will occur tomorrow night? It’s done in a strange and slick way the way the corrupt and intimidating members of the office can make those who contribute seem like they are doing so for the same reasons they are! There are two types of employees at EPSO, those who are serving honorably and selfless and those who are serving to be honored and are self-serving.
I’m literally getting ready to go on duty and CANNOT help but call the “Move On” post COMPLETELY laughable. That post may be able to fool someone who doesn’t know, but for those of us who do know, we know this administration would NEVER spare ANYONE suing the office or ANYONE who filed a complaint against the office from being “embarrassed in court.” Why are they smearing other names who have made complains against the office? Because they look for ANTHING, even false evidence, to embarrass and humiliate and intimidate those who complain against the office or who don’t play the political game. If this administration could have proved EVEN TO THE SLIGHTEST, that the female deputy was inappropriate with an inmate, they would have fired her to rid themselves of her being retaliated against daily at work, and would HAVE NEVER SETTLED her case. And to set the record straight, you said “why did we lose money on this?” This office did not lose money on this, the tax payers did. Perhaps if the office lost money they would rid the harrasors and protect victims. This post of yours shows the type of mentality we are up against as employees in this office. People who create falsehoods to deceive the average person from thinking about the real facts of how the actual process goes. You create smoke screens.
The office settled the case because THEY didn’t want the embarrassment. They couldn’t find anything on this victim, easy to gather that opinion by the way the office treats others complaintents/victims. It’s why they refuse to settle all the other law suits, because they believe they can create enough lies based on lose information they discovered about someone they can use to create an entire smoke screen and ruin someone’s entire reputation.
They settled because a harrasor was proven to be harassing an employee and he was demoted, an SRT team dis-tastefully rallied at the jail and intimidated other employees who may think to report in the future, and Lt Huffor and Commander King walked amongst them as if they were “untouchable.”
Anyone reading the “Move On” comment, this is what we face in the office.
It appears a supporter of intimidation and workplace harassment is brave enough to attempt to convince the masses otherwise. FTR, the SRT Sergeant who was demoted was Absolutely NOT offered his position back. He is a deputy now, so he cannot regain the positon of SRT Sergeant as a commenter previously mentioned. Wow! Look at the revelation in that statement though, that the office would offer him back his position of trust that he abused?!?!
First post got it right; because Move On was definitely written by the female sergeant referenced. She and her partner are the only people in the entire office who would make it sound like it’s a bad thing when the Huffors aren’t on you FB page.
Beware fellow co-workers of wolves in sheeps clothing. Be Smart! Sergeants who are spending their personal time with The Kings Men, meaning the sheriff and his enforcers, but who also claim to be the ones who take care of the troops; both cannot exist!
Please; we do not want this website to become employee on employee bashing. We must focus on getting rid of Bill Elder and his corrupt leadership. Elder would love for employees to forget about him and go after each other.
Great point! And we must not allow people in authority to bash victims. either. Our job as sworn protectors of the law is to protect victims and expose people who victimize.
Very true, and yes, needs to be reminded that our current sheriff would love for all of us working here to forget about him, especially as election rolls near.
Keep the focus on Elder and his corrupt leadership and the leadership they are currently creating to be corrupt. The original post that started this chain of debate was focused on new leadership joining the old corrupt leadership and becoming corrupt themselves by creating a hostile work environment.
The response was an attack on a victim who at one time was one of our co-workers and who worked extremely hard and who represented this office well until she reported the horrific environment in which she eventually became aware of through her own experiences.
Stay focused! Watch your leadership! Hold them accountable. Do not trust those who choose spend their personal time with the corrupt leadership while making you feel that you are being supported.
That’s a part of the control matrix!
Really unbelievable for a leader in the office to post a comment titled “Move On” while referencing sexual harassment, workplace hostility, and a victim.
To any employee who is currently being harassed or has been harassed, be encouraged and do not “Move On.”
Stand for your yourself, advocate for yourself, and say “Me Too!”
A settlement is ALWAYS offered by the guilty party when they have no real factual weapon to form against a victim! EPSO settled with the victim who was probably happy to take her “little miss White House” experience somewhere else, as you patronize someone for their work experience, experience this office could use.
Also, to somehow minimize the settlement amount, as if a settlement in the amount of nearly $70,000 of taxpayers dollars is hardly any money. Sure, her case was worth LOTS more and it’s why EPSO wanted to avoid court and sure she accepted a lot less than what she deserved after the proven treatment of her during her investigation.
However, I’m sure if you ask any El Paso County taxpayer if they are happy or comfortable with paying even $1 dollar of their money to settle with victims, I’d bet my annual salary of nearly $70,000 that an honest citizen would say no.
Ask the hardworking single mother or the hardworking elderly couple, or the young man trying to start his life right out of college, if they believe $70,000 is hardly any value.
Leadership, not all, but the majority needs to be completely cleaned out. You’re helping to support corruption and a hostile workplace environment, and your reply further victimizing a victim is just the tip of the iceberg in sharing your true hearts!
How can the citizens trust EPSO if the employees can’t?
Reading all these posts and looking back at my career in EPSO got me thinking about something. If it’s really this bad working at the SO, if leadership is really corrupt and running amok and the working environment has become hostile and toxic….what are you going to do about it? Seriously. People say they’re afraid of coming and publicly supporting the other candidate. They fear the current administration will retaliate against them and force them out of their job. Seriously? I hope they retaliate against me. It’ll just be a nice bonus on top of my salary.
Unless you’re part of command staff you won’t be bothered and if you really believe that the current administration will go after you for exercising your right to vote then you better get involved. Why would you want to work for an administration that will do such thing?
You all have an opportunity to make a difference. Some of you will make the effort and most of you will just sit at home and expect other people to do the dirty work while you sit at home and pray for a “better” outcome that benefits you.
If it’s really horrible working for the current administration then go out and become a delegate or recruit your friends and family members to help make a change and stop bitching and whining. This is your golden opportunity to make a difference whether you’re supporting Elder or Angley.
If Elder and company get re-elected then things aren’t as bad as a few of you claim. If Angley gets in then I guess most comments were true, the environment was toxic and change was necessary. So once again, you can post “your” frustations here and on other social outlets but it won’t make difference. Get involved and stop bitching.
I’m getting involved and I have nothing against the current administration but I would love it if we get a run off so that we can at least hear what both Elder and Angley have to say. Let me judge them on their speeches and deabates and let me vote for who I think will be a better sheriff for the citizens of El Paso County. I definitely do not want the flawed caucus system we have in place here deciding who our next sheriff will be. Give me a chance to see what these folks are made of and quite possibly some entertainment to go with that. Lol.
Sheriff Elder has been asked by a number of organizations to either debate and/or be present at a Q&A type forum with Angley but he will not show…only Elder knows why. Unfortunately that only leaves the written words of the candidates to draw conclusions from at this point. So everybody has to ask themselves…is what I’m reading and seeing about Angley better or worse than the experiences I’m having with EPSO or reading about here. As stated perhaps if Angley makes the cut at the County Assembly the Sheriff can be forced into a debate. If he doesn’t have the balls at this point I’m guessing he lost them long ago and he will continue with his “no debate” policy.
That is hilarious! Can you just see the veins popping out of Elder’s head when he learned his beloved Janet Huffor begged Angley for her job~oh to be a fly on the wall! Guess the Chosen Ones are starting to panic now. Let’s sit back and enjoy the show.
Now is the time for all the dedicated, professional members of the SO to stand up for the good of the organization. What you do now is not only for your secure future, but also for your family and the citizens of this county. Lets make this happen together folks and become a united blue family once again.
Now is not the time to sit back and watch. It’s your time to step up and not be afraid to show what you are made of and show what you stand for. True leaders stand up not only during times of hardship but also when they need to ensure the rights of all are protected, and not just for the chosen few. (FOB) – friends of bill
Yes, I understand the present administration is crumbling. But before you can make a building new and functional, you must first take away all the rubble and start with a new foundation. Where are you standing here people, are you part of the rubble that needs to go away or part of the new foundation working towards making this organization strong and professional again.
Brave folks stand in the face of adversity. Be proud to be a delegate, and this can all be over at the County Assembly. Then, the planning can begin for a smooth transition for this office to become the best in this state and possibly the nation.
Now is the time to stand up and be counted folks. I see their are some folks already seeing the writing on the wall. Pretty sad when the campaign manager for the other side has already thrown in the towel.
And now the Pantheon of loyalty begins to crumble. Janet Huffor groveling for her job, SWEET! She can’t be the first or the last to see the writing on the wall. How long can it be before Rob King comes calling, he does have that new house to pay for. Perhaps the always loyal Jackie Kirby will will drop by for coffee. Let’s not forget Rodney Gehrett who wrote that dripping man crush endorsement for Big Bill.
Mr. Angley, somewhere in the basement of 27 East Vermijo is a large flush handle that connects to the fifth floor, the employee’s of the EPSO ask you,
“PLEASE PULL THE HANDLE”
Time to get involved. Everyone who wants a change. Go to your caucus. You don’t have to tell anybody who you are voting for. You’re just there to get involved; to make your voice be heard and your vote count. If you don’t go, you have no one to blame but yourself if Elder is the only name on the ballot. It will be 4 more years of the same. GO TO YOUR CAUCUS! Encourage your friends, your neighbors, your grandma, everyone you know to do the same. While you’re at it, if you’re an employee of EPSO and afraid to donate to the opponent, then have your friends, neighbors, or your grandma donate your money for you! Elections aren’t free! Time’s running out.
Yes, we all need to get involved – Caucus is Tuesday, March 6th, check in starts 6:30, caucus meeting will begin at 7pm. You can nominate yourself to be a delegate. You must have $40 payment (cash or check) to turn in that night. Make sure you are able to go to the county assembly on Saturday, March 24th at UCCS where your actual delegate vote will be cast and is private. Show Elder and the pervert Billy Huffor and his wife that their BS will no longer be tolerated. If we don’t stop them, then they will be empowered and run the office into the ground. We will have Huffor promoted to Bureau Chief by the end of the year. Elder is no leader and the public needs to know of his misdeeds. Spread the word to your neighbors and friends.
“You never let a serious crisis go to waste.”
– Rahm Emanuel (Mayor of Chicago)
Interesting timing this morning in that sheriff elder felt it necessary to send both Commander Clif Northam and Mr. Janet Brown to the BOCC meeting this morning, one week prior to the upcoming caucus. Northam just wanted to thank the community for their support (and meals) in light of Deputy Flick’s passing and stressed the great working relationships that the EPSO has established with all the local agencies (Fountain, Manitou, CSPD). Meanwhile Mr. Brown, while mentioning the Florida HS tragedy, sincerely(?) thanked the BOCC for their support of the SRO program (which, by the way, he twice made very clear to the commissioners that he “supervised”).
I guess the sheriff finally woke-up from his alcohol induced coma and realized that it’s about time he starts campaigning.
Finally some real transparency from the elder administration.
From Elder’s reelection website: “In August of 2017, I asked KRW to return to the Sheriff’s Office to evaluate our progress on the recommendations outlined in the KRW Report. They have been meeting with employees, reviewing changes to policy and procedure and holding focus groups. We hope to have the results before the end of 2017.”
The focus groups were completed in September. It’s now the end of February – 4 months later. WHERE IS THE KRW REPORT?? Oh right… Elder doesn’t like the results because the report states morale is low, no improvements have been made and he’s a TERRIBLE “leader”. He allows Billy Huffor to grope a female deputy but blames the deputy. Patrol staffing is at just 67 deputies!! There were 86 patrol deputies in Jan. 2015 when Elder took over. That’s almost 20 deputies LESS. WHERE is the $22-24 MILLION dollars of 1A/Public Safety Tax going? Oh yeah, to command staff positions created for Elder’s buddies and supporters. Elder doesn’t want to release the KRW report from Sept. 2017 right before the caucus because he will prove he’s a lousy sheriff- where’s his transparency and accountability that proclaimed to have? He’s lies to the public – he has NOT been in law enforcement his “whole life” – 12 years was spent in a real estate business and remember – he declared bankruptcy because he and his wife just couldn’t “get ahead” because once he was promoted, he no longer could earn overtime money. Wouldn’t we all like to get a clean slate and have our bills wiped clean without having to pay? No wonder the sheriff’s office budget is in disarray, PSW monies are being stolen and used for things other than what the taxpayers voted for, people are quitting/retiring on a daily basis because of his lack of morals, honesty, integrity and respect for employees. Elder didn’t even have the decency to show up for the civilian in-service last week even though he was in the building – did he send the undersheriff or bureau chief? NO – He’d rather waste money by paying the employees to take a 2 hour lunch. He has NO respect for for this office or this county!! He needs to be tossed out like yesterday’s trash.
Congratulations, Sheriff Elder…you’ve not only gone statewide, but you’ve gone nationwide!
Denver Post – “Federal lawsuit accuses El Paso sheriff of illegally holding ICE detainees…The ACLU is seeking class action status for all people held in the El Paso County jail on ICE holds”
ABC News – “Suit challenges sheriff’s attempt to hold immigrants”
The Washington Times – “Suit: Colorado sheriff’s policy violates immigrant rights”
We’re all just so very proud of you. Wow, when you campaign, you CAMPAIGN!
PS – Can’t wait for the staff meeting today!!
The corruption of Mark Hurlbert, CBI, Dan May, Bill Elder and their gang is disgusting. The truth about their witch hunt of Maketa, Presley and San Agustin will be exposed. Maybe not today, or this month or even this year. But it will happen. Now that the cases are dismissed people have already begun to talk. Big secrets are being revealed and the tides are turning. Elder’s little empire is already crumbling.
Its a sad day when you are burying one of you brothers in blue, and your sheriff is having a big laugh prior to the memorial. This was a hard, sad day for the Flick family, and this is the behavior of his boss.
Its looking more like what ole bill did for the family of Deputy Flick was for his personal gain down the road. At such a vulnerable time, and he cannot control himself to at least look sad, this was the real bill coming out.
I truly hope elder does not try and use the Flick family in his attempted bid at re-election. Do it on you own bill, debate Angley and show the people what a professional you claim to be. Stand on your accomplishments during this term, or lack of.
Funny how one of your supporter claim Angley has no experience and is not post certified. Well major, you more so than the others at the office should know the extensive experience Angley has in the federal law enforcement arena.
He will be able to become post certified once he wins the assembly. As you must be aware, bill too had to become re-certified after his 16 years as a re-estate agent. Sure hope he has kept his license current. wink wink
The time is coming quickly and I can only imagine how the folks in the office are going to see the professional leadership returns and cronyism is walked out the door. Its going to be a great day at the caucuses, and even a better day at the county assembly.
Together this will happen. Keep the faith and this is truly a team effort for this office to be rebuilt and no longer torn apart by the unprofessional behavior of the present administration.
Be safe all.
While this may seem like an effort to defend the current regime, it is not, but I would like to correct the website….this image was not taken at the funeral for Detective Flick….it was taken at the Pikes Peak Region Fallen Officer Memorial Service held every year in May. This picture would have been from either 2015 or 2016 because one of his minions, Chuck Kull, is still a sergeant….he was promoted to Lieutenant in 2017. Besides….the day of the funeral was snowing and New Life Church is white.
I do concur with the rest of your comments and with the website.
This caucus smells different. This time around I feel like there will be a run off. I have a feeling Angley will acquire the required delegate vote (30%) and a bit more. (Personal opinion)
If it does happen, then I think Angley’s odds of being elected for Sheriff are very good. People can vote without feeling like they’re being targeted or retaliated against, can influence their significant other, friends, family members, neighbors, pets (lol) to vote for Angley if change is really needed or Elder if no change is needed and business is good. Ultimately, the employees (YOU) will have the power to bring change and your voices be heard.
I will be attending my precinct caucus next Tuesday night in hopes of becoming a delegate. I no longer work at the SO and when I did l got along fine with line level employees up to Command Staff to include Elder and still do. I don’t have a dog in this fight but would hate to see 1,500 delegates decide for 7000,000 El Paso County citizens who our next Sheriff will be on March 24th. Let the citizens of El Paso County decide in November of 2018.
Get out and get involved but don’t bitch if you don’t and you’re not satisfied with the results.
See y’all next Tuesday.
Bill Elder thinks he can threaten EPSO employees into supporting him, Billy Huffor thinks people “just don’t care” and harasses and intimidates employees. Janet Huffor thinks she’s running the show. What does our badge say? HONESTY, LOYALTY, UNITY. Bill Elder has done NOTHING to support the employees or bring us together. I think we ALL need to band together and show them that we DO care and we WILL take back this organization from their mismanagement, threats and intimidation. Bill Elder AND Billy Huffor think they can control people by telling them not to associate with those that support Mike Angley or else their promotion will never happen or even threaten their jobs. We need a new leader, a TRUE leader that will treat all employees equally and fairly and management the budget so that people will actually want to work at EPSO and stay there for the long term. It can only happen with each and every one of YOU – talk to your neighbors and friends, encourage them to go to their caucus and become a delegate. Encourage those delegates to cast their vote for HONESTY, LOYALTY AND UNITY. EPSO needs a change in leadership and we have the power to make that happen. Republican Caucus is this Tuesday, March 6th. General Assembly is Saturday, March 24th. Take a stand for yourself and your co-workers. Things will not get better – they may get even worse – if we don’t DO something. Silence IS the endorsement of corruption. To all the supervisors that see what’s going on and say nothing – “leaders” speak up and defend their people; “leaders” speak up when those in charge are doing wrong. Please stop supporting the corruption, intimidation and blatant favoritism. Bullies are empowered when good people stay quiet and do nothing. Do the right thing and support the change that is so needed in this organization.
It struck me this morning, after witnessing our Sheriff stumble through the last few years, that the issue we’re facing today is the overwhelming lack of RESPECT for this administration. Zero RESPECT for the Sheriff, zero RESPECT for his Command Staff, and zero RESPECT for the poor decisions this regime has made.
Anybody reading this right now realizes that your mind begins to wander and focus is all but lost when you lose RESPECT for who you’re involved with or lose RESPECT for the responsibilities you currently have. That alone explains the absolutely awful situation we all find ourselves in today. This Office has lost it’s way…but it can be recaptured.
Think about those individuals in your life that you truly RESPECT. You RESPECT their honesty, their courage, their ability to communicate, their integrity, etc. RESPECT is healthy, necessary, and unequivocally imperative in a successful relationship and/or organization.
To the current EPSO members – look to your right…then look to your left…and think about the several hundred(!) former peers that you truly RESPECTED that have left the Office since 2015 and no longer stand next to you.
Sheriff Bill Elder has done nothing to honestly earn our RESPECT. He’s only attempted to buy it. He’s only attempted to intimidate it. He’s only attempted to bully it.
With all due RESPECT we can do this…together…as it should be.
And while we’re at it…Speaking of RESPECT and all –
“CBI Re-opens Investigation into EPSO Administrator Larry Borland for Ordering Government Documents Falsely Notarized” CS Indy (11/10/17)
“In May 2016, ( BTW – Sergeant Derek Conrad passed away in 2015) we had a deputy (Sergeant?) dying of cancer, and we wanted to pay a tribute to him and his wife and provide a framed copy of his oath of office, so we went up to the room where he lay dying at Penrose Hospital and I swore him in and I gave him his badge and we left that room with that signed affidavit and took it to the Clerk and Recorder’s Office and we had it recorded”
Easy enough… the EPSO can provide receipts of anything from gas in Santa Fe to hamburgers in Seattle. Let’s see the receipt for that signed and framed “affidavit” for Sergeant Conrad.
Seriously, this was a great post!!
Lets look at what ole bill just posted.
“I ask that you learn about the issues, the differences and make an informed decision, not just listen to rhetoric. per bill”
You at the office have been living with the issues for the past three years. Through all the scandals by his administrators or hand picked croonies. What have you seen during this administration, cronyism, unqualified people promoted, some twice, and some way over paid considering their qualifications and experience.
I think you folks have seen the issues, and know from an insiders view point, this administration will not get any better in another 4 year term. Is this what you and this county want.
Rhetoric, really is that what bill thinks about all the information posted on this website. Its pretty amazing after vetting all the information, the folks managing this site have done an excellent job. I too have vetted the information and stories and have always found all the information and allegations to be true. Majority of this vetting has come from those that are in know and so close to the issues, as well as the problem person, bill.
So folks, please take the time to be well informed on both people running for the office, and make your own informed decision. Do we really want four more years of lawsuits, intimidation on a daily basis, and see that only special people get promoted. I think not.
Lets all become delegates, vote at the assembly for change, and send a clear message to the fifth floor. Its time to stand up for yourselves and what best for this office.
Together we can make this happen!!
As caucus night approaches, consider your options.
Ronald Reagan once asked “Are you better off today than you were four years ago”. I for one did not get a new ford explorer, new office furniture, multiple promotions or a job created just for me that pays 90k a year. Bill Elder has brought us turmoil, division and empty promises since he walked onto the fifth floor. He and his clan are nothing more than carnival barkers standing in front of an empty tent. Do we want four more years of this? How many supervisors and friends you respected are gone? People retire as soon as they’re eligible or walk away from a career they loved. Everyone else comes to work in a fog just trying to get through the week and hope we’re not called in on our day off to get more of that cherished comp time.
Now it’s campaign time!
Mr. Elder, don’t tell me to compare issues or accomplishments, I’ve been living in the world called reality my whole life but what the hell, let’s compare:
You obviously screwed the pooch when you were managing the VNI money way back when and it led to your early departure (Bailout) from EPSO the first time. Your testimony at the Maketa trail rivaled Tom Hanks portrayal of Forrest Gump but Tom Hanks was acting. Then we have personal bankruptcy, and your total incompetence running the EPSO. Mr. Angley may be an unknown but his credentials are far and above yours. He hasn’t revealed his “Plan” but my guess is he doesn’t want to give you any ideas to steal and call your own.
Mr. Elder, your campaign promises and rhetoric are the Emperors new clothes, you sir are NAKED!
I’ll choose Mr. Angley.
I thought mental health was one of Elder’s top priorities (out of 5)? I guess not enough to show up for the graduation of a week long program for CIT (Crisis Intervention Training). Elder doesn’t care about anything right now other than getting re-elected so he can secure a retirement and keep the money flowing for himself and the huffors, This administration is a disgrace to our county.
Good evening all,
Great article and spot on about Todd Evans and Bob McDonald. Both are still well respected by their peers as well as past employees. The article is totally correct on why they left. Without the backing of Todd, Bill would have probably been beat out by either Reid or Anderson and would still be selling real estate today with no retirement in place.
Look at all the good people that have left. You are well aware of why they retired earlier than they wanted and were fed up with the B/S of this administration. On the bogus personnel sheet Elder want everyone to fill out, he should have done a poll to see who was the most hated in the office. Wonder who that would be? So many to choose from.
Now is the time to help yourselves and stand up to all this corruption. There is no way Elder and King will prevail in the Federal Trial coming up, and the county will again be paying out big dollars. Not to say what will be paid to Maketa, Presley and SanAgustin.
I am sure you all at the office are as disgusted with the behavior of the administration as the rest of the citizens. Do you really want to see lil billie and Janet still around in four years. We the people have the chance to stand as one and put this election to bed once and for all.
Become a delegate and attend the county assembly. Lets put an end this corrupt administration and begin planning for the future of the office.
Lets make this happen together. You build a wall one block at a time, but the more blocks you add the stronger the wall becomes. Lets stand together and let Elder know what the public really thinks of him and his band of cronnies.
If Evans and McDonald had a pair, they would have stood with us and fought this battle instead of running away with their tails between their legs. WE loved the both of them but they were both a HUGE disappointment to all of us who remained to fight the good fight.
Think about that, guys…you left hundreds of us scrambling to fix this thing without you. It’s not too late to let your thoughts (and knowledge) known.
They’ll never do it. They would be incriminating themselves because they are too involved and know too much. They are NOT innocent when it comes to Elder and his misdeeds. They were both very much a part of it, but when the going got rough, Evans bailed and McDonald soon followed. We will never hear the truth from either of them, unless of course, they are granted immunity.
I did my part, did you? Remember, don’t bitch and whine if you didn’t and are not satisfied with the results. See y’all at the assembly on March 24, 2018
Hi Chief of Stuff Huffor –
Apparently you check in daily to see your if you (or yours) is mentioned. Just wanted to make today’s “check” fruitful for you.
(KKTV 11 – 3/7/18) “Tenant/landlord relationship with Rocky Top complicates homeless camp eviction”
“The deputies handed out pamphlets with homeless resources. Anyone who is not gone by Friday will be cited with trespassing. (Lt) Huffor told 11 News (and sounding quite frustrated and angry at that – perhaps the results from the previous night’s caucas’ were taking their toll?) that the plight of the homeless is a ‘community issue’.”
“This is a community problem. Where they go next, is where the community needs to engage. Affordable housing, mental health treatment, substance abuse treatment, the list goes on and on.”
Just a reminder, Billy Boy…from your Sheriff’s own re-election website:
“Message from Sheriff Elder”
“Accomplished in short-order was the rebuilding of relationships with our regional law enforcement partners and community organizations. The citizens of El Paso County deserve nothing less than to have their local law enforcement and community leaders working together to accomplish the same goal……to build the safest and most vibrant community in Colorado and the nation.”
So I ask you, Billy – is the Sheriff’s Office actually working with the community…or is the office to busy just passing the buck (again)?
Let’s move forward –
(KKTV 3/8/18) “In an abrupt about-face Thursday, the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office now says the dozens of residents of a large homeless camp will not have to vacate the camp Friday as initially planned.”
Wow, Lt…way to jump the gun (and on tape none the less). Just another example of a well-planned and researched EPSO operation.
By the way, Sheriff. Is this really who you want to be the new “face” of your office. He’s not doing you any favors…at all. But then who are we to question your decisions. They’ve always been spot on.
Billy Huffor wasn’t really jumping the gun on this one. He just doesn’t know what he is doing. This is the problem when a Sheriff makes appointments and promotions based solely on political favors. Huffor was a mediocre deputy when Elder took office, but immediately promoted him to Sergeant. Less than a year later, Elder promoted him to Lieutenant. Now, Elder has put him in charge of law enforcement street cops, despite the fact that Huffor doesn’t have a clue what he is doing. The eviction questions would have been a “no brainer” to an experience patrol deputy. But… that’s Elder politics.
It was amazing at the caucus how many people had heard of dirtyelder.com and were asked if everything on there was true. I told them to just do a little vetting on their own and they could easily verify everything as factual.
Caucus night was a fun evening talking to lots of other delegates and hearing their feed-back about the sheriff’s race. So many commented they were impressed with the website of the “colonel” and were interested in talking to him and as well as supporting his platform at assembly.
I have a feeling there are many other delegates as excited as I am and cannot wait for the assembly to put this race to rest.
I hear Bill was not real excited or engaged on caucus night, I think he has a lot on his mind. Like when will the next lawsuit be filed, which of my staff will step on it next, and what will I do for a retirement when I lose.
Well, I guess you could always start your own circus, you already have a boat load of clowns.
I want the employees of the EPSO to stay strong and united, help is on the way. To the delegates of this county, lets get a real leader in the office and make it a professional organization AGAIN!!! See you all at assembly!!!! Go TEAM!
Good Morning all,
Its less than two weeks to assembly and the excitement is building. Information has it tensions on the fifth floor are getting pretty loud and does not sound like a happy place to be assigned. Maybe its because the head guy is finding out his folks are not behind him any longer and trying to save their own future. Good luck there.
I am wondering who is really in charge at the office and why does it seem that the chief of CSPD always seems to be around to hold Bill’s hand. Carey is not a bad off the cuff speaker, something we know Bill does very poorly. This is the reason he will not debate Mike Angley. Come on Bill, man up and give the people an honest live debate, do not hide behind Pete or Janet. Its pretty pathetic you are using Pete to bring folks to you just like you used Todd, because no one knew who you were. Now they know “you” and do not like what they see. You are some one who has broken so many promises, hired many incompetent people, wasted funds on too many promotions, unnecessary positions, and lawsuits.
How about the chief of stuff, the court liaison, the civilian bureau chief, an inspector, a traffic Sergeant in charge of no one, and more Lieutenants in charge of very few people. Plus, all the take home cars. To include a reserve Lieutenant who would at the Broadmoor PD. Total up the waste in these positions and you could put more deputies on the road or in the jail without addition funds, just using the funds efficiently.
It sure does appear the blocks are starting to tumble. Stand tall folks at the EPSO, true leadership is coming, and cannot wait to see everyone in the office and the public coming to support Mike Angley and say no more to Elder and his band of croonies.
Check out all this for yourselves folks and see everything on here is true.
“Integrity is doing the right thing, even when no one is watching.”
So, Caucus night is done and the county assembly is fast approaching. Several of Elders staff were seen at their precincts, they all turn out to protect their paychecks. Remember when they returned in 2015 and said,
“I only want to stay for two years and go out on my own terms”
They wanted to regain what Paula Presley had taken from them. Apparently Paula left that collection of anatomy in her office for Janet Huffor to find.
What will we get with four more years of Bill Elder.
• No more deputies on patrol than we have now.
• More Commanders, Lieutenants, and Sergeants.
• Undersheriff Billy Huffor.
• More Janet Huffor.
• More Do-nothing staff. (Awaiting Janet’s commands)
• More from financial wizard Larry Borland.
In reality, what did Bill accomplish?
How about a double digit attrition rate? We have lost a wealth of institutional knowledge with the departure of some of our best leaders. Elder wanted to create a “BENCH”. How’s that going?
The public safety tax cash is bringing in an average of 20 Million a year yet we still can’t staff patrol or the jail, WHY? One cash sucker could be our attrition rate and the Sick time/Vacation payouts that go with them. Some who leave have very little on the books while most old timers are maxed out with an average payout of 50k. In round numbers we’ve lost 200 people with Elders purge plan. If they averaged 25k each, which is a reasonable number. That’s 5 Million. What is this mass exit doing to the retirement plan? Might we see a 10 year vesting requirement soon?
How about “1A”, Bill hasn’t mentioned it in his Hometown sheriff act. What he has mentioned over and over again is that he needs a second term to qualify for retirement. Here are his greatest accomplishments from the first term:
• A new Condo in a gated community.
• A new fifth wheel camper trailer.
• A new monster pick-up truck to haul that camper.
• A hefty pay raise.
• A sanctuary employer for sexual harassers.
Bill Elder cannot pull off the extension of the public safety tax folks, He doesn’t care! As long as his retirement is safe.
What do you get with another four years of Bill Elder?
About twenty months to polish your resume and count off by three.
I am one of those “old timers” mentioned by Duncan that left the Office under Elder’s regime. I acknowledge I had a character flaw that was most likely viewed with contempt and scorn by those that would deliver us from the evils of Maketa/Presley; I, unfortunately, cared about those that worked for me. That was seen as a weakness and was apparently viewed as not being part of their team. I am sad to admit that I supported his bid for office; I knew John Anderson was not the answer because I had lived through that 8 years of “joy” and knew we didn’t need a repeat. I liked Jim Reid, but didn’t know if he was the man for the job. I wanted to believe Elder’s promises; I thought for once the Sheriff’s Office would have someone that would truly support those on the line doing the work. Sadly, I was again disappointed. I would like to think that Elder did have the intention to change the office but when you bring back the same people that were part of the problem under the previous tyrant, you aren’t fixing anything. It is like a surgeon removing a tumor and then putting all but a tiny chunk or two back in the body, hoping it will work out. How is change suppose to occur when you have an Undersheriff and Bureau Chief come into Patrol briefings saying that they are just there for 4 years and don’t care if 1A is renewed, because they got theirs? How does promoting a group of people to Sergeant and Lieutenant who had never tested or were not on the current list help support a promise of a fair and impartial promotion process? How does “flattening” the chain of command by adding a second Undersheriff/Chief Deputy and addition staff positions demonstrate fiscal responsibility? (I would note that flattening does rhyme with fattening….Freudian slip?) There has always been somewhat of an exodus from the office when new management comes on board, but when you have 200-250 people leave an organization, to include some of those he brought with him and some of his most devoted followers….that is what we call in the business a clue that something is wrong. With the county assembly approaching, I am hoping that, at the very least, Elder will have to fight to keep his job. I hope he continues to refuse to debate his opponent….his silence will scream volumes about his character. To those I left in that hell hole; stay safe, watch out for each other and stand strong. Help is on the horizon.
Those damn “character flaws” you have…I only hope they weren’t honesty, courage, or intelligence. Because if they were, you never had a chance under Bill Elder.
BTW -The actual attrition number is well over 350 former employees that have left the EPSO since January 2015 – Probably closer to 400 (50% of the Office). Chew on that…Seriously 🙂
Good morning hero’s,
Yes hero’s, those of you who have chosen to become delegates and will stand tall at the assembly. Its amazing not all folks on the fifth floor are supporting Bill’s re-election. This says a lot.
Maybe Joe has finally had enough of the B/S of this administration and enough of the civilian Bureau Chief challenging his authority. Hell, Borland’s career was pretty poor over all and whats are his top five accomplishments? Time to go to Arizona Larry. CBI let Larry and Janet off the hook?
Bill has lots of in fighting from within, and refuses to debate openly because he would look like a fool without a script provided by Janet or Natalie.
Why is Bill and his campaign folks campaigning during the middle of the day. I am hearing you are intimidating folks with your standard questions, “are we okay”? Whats a person to respond, ya great we are so happy you are our sheriff, NOT!!!
I do not know how all the people on the fifth floor can come to work every day knowing everyone in the office is disgusted with your behavior and “you” as a leader. The way you and your staff treat your employees is abominable.
On Saturday when Bill is riding on the old plow horse or on a float, understand one thing folks, this is not a man of integrity, but someone who is only in this for a retirement. A smart man would already have his retirement in place, and is truly serving the people. What does this say about old Bill.
I ask you as the sheriff, are we okay? Hell no, you let us down as a leader, you broke your promises to get us to vote for you, and you do not have the trust of the people. You have lied to the people and the hometown boy needs to disappear quietly.
Its a pretty sad day when employees are encouraged to become delegates to the county assembly, then are threatened by a commander prior to assembly. Wow, I thought we were living in American.
I hear EPSO delegates are being told if they vote for Mr. Angley at the county assembly, their futures will be compromised and not looked upon kindly by Elder. What the hell kind of leadership is in this. This is why the sheriff and commander are headed to federal court next month. How many more suits like this one are waiting in the wings to be filed. Word is many, and the board of county commissioners is just as responsible as the hometown boy. Do you really want four more years of these controllers.
Its time for these disgraceful folks who call themselves leaders to be shown the door and bring a leader who will be transparent, and not do the smoke and mirrors with facts and figures. Bill changes policies to suit his needs, he promotes unqualified people with little to no experience, then gives inflated salaries to these positions. How about the paying of your civilian bureau chief at the sworn rate. Was this over payment ever paid back, or swept under the rug like everything else in the Elder administration.
The future of this office is certainly in the hands of the delegates. Do not be afraid of this administration folks they are nothing but a lot of low-life individuals who are more concerned about their retirements, their future inflated salaries, and not about you as a professional employee. The public is reading this site more than Elders folks think, and they too are making informed decisions and vetting these informed articles.
Stand tall folks, the public understands what you stand for and will be voting with you at the assembly. Lets rid the office of these shysters who call themselves experienced leaders. Time is coming soon to making an informed decision, this office cannot sustain four more years of Elder and his band of misfits. If Elders were to prevail what will the attrition rate be, its already heading towards 30%, due to the mistrust of an over worked and under appreciated staff. We the public hear you!!!
Wow. Another mind-numbing performance during yesterday’s Fort Carson fire by our dear leader. Put a microphone in front of him, stand back, and just wait for the insight:
1) As hundreds of his citizens were forced to evacuate (and only wonder if their homes would avoid the flames), Elder began his part of the press conference touting (campaigning?) the strong “relationships” that have been built.
2) He then went on to pull out his crystal ball and predict that the fire “would be out by midnight.” (Last check – still burning at 8am Saturday morning).
Gee, Sheriff Elder…You’re just so darn good speaking in public. Are you sure don’t want to debate the Lieutenant Colonel??
So much for your Terry Maketa/Waldo Canyon moment, Sheriff…once again, you spit the bit.
At least you got to ride in one of those air-o-planes to see the fire yesterday. And with any luck you got to ride a pony today at the parade.
Hope you got a balloon and some cotton candy, too!!
History repeats itself,
In September of 2012 the American Embassy in Benghazi Libya was attacked and burned. Questions as to the whereabouts of President Barrack Obama started the next morning. As it turned out, Mr. Obama jetted out to a campaign event in Las Vegas as Benghazi burned.
Could a politician make an error like this again? The answer is a definitive “YES”. Last night a wildfire ragged in Midway south of Fountain, several homes appear to have been lost and families displaced. To his credit we understand County Commissioner Longinos Gonzalez was at the scene to help in any way he could, for this we commend Commissioner Gonzales.
The man responsible for wildland fire fighting in El Paso County however has taken a much different course of action, while Midway burned Bill Elder prepared for two much different events. The first came early this morning where Bill Elder appeared on the Jeff Crank radio show in a campaign event to promote himself. The second at noon when Bill Elder appeared in the annual St. Patricks’ Day parade which for him was another campaign event to promote himself. Yes, my friends, History does repeat itself.
It is also worth noting that the EPSO Wildland fire team is short several members who fall into the minus side of the attrition rate previously mentioned. Several members refused to work for not only John Padgett but also Bill Elder himself. Not only is the patrol section desperately short of help, apparently so is the wildland fire crew. Most officials fear the upcoming fire season, what is Bill Elder doing about it?
Unlike anyone else on here, I will leave my real name with any comment I ever make. I happen to know that Sheriff Elder works 16-20 hour days , most of time, in order to fit in events like the parade in which OVER 150 people showed up for, very excited to walk and celebrate a man they adore. Over half of the participants were kids and had been looking forward to the parade for weeks. He doesn’t let people down.
He had JUST left the fire AND they had to go right back when it was done. People like him and that upsets those who support Angley. I can appreciate that. Angley showed up to the parade in an expensive suit and played on his phone the entire time. Not exactly my idea of someone who fits in with El Paso County.
Ms. Ward, thanks so much for your response! You and the rest of Mr. Elders supporters have always claimed you didn’t read this website. We always knew you did but it’s nice to have verification. Welcome from those you and your elite friends consider the unwashed, we call ourselves employees.
For those of you who don’t know Missy Ward folks, she is in the upper echelon of the El Paso County Republican Party. That’s right she’s one of those people who doesn’t take sides or support any candidate until the assembly is over and the “DELEGATES” have made the choice as to who will represent the party on the general ticket.
So, for those of you who didn’t believe the fix was in with the swamp, go ahead and sign your daughters up for Billy Huffors “Stop and Frisk” class at the jail. I’m sure it’s all fine.
It is unfortunate that many in the (El Paso County) Republican party do not hold their elected officials accountable; they blindly re-elect them. We do not believe it would matter how much evidence there is of Bill Elder’s corruption, they will vote for who the leadership tells them to. We would suggest Missy go talk to a few Deputies (not Elder’s leadership) and see what they have to say. How about a few of the hundreds that have left EPSO in the last few years. That says a lot more than walking in a parade. Missy, get informed and take off the blindfold. If you are serious about getting the truth send us an email and we will direct you to a time and place where you can talk with real Deputies.
Elder is the most corrupt sheriff we have ever had.
Would be nice if Elder would we willing to release the most recent KRW audit report. I’m told that he won’t as the deputies gave the auditors quite an earful about how corrupt Elder and his command staff are.
Who paid for that KRW report…It wasn’t the actual taxpayers of El Paso County was it? If so, it seems that those same taxpayers would want to see the results of their hard-earned dollar.
Pretty sure it was taxpayer funded. FOIA?
Ooh, so brave you are…unless you work for EPSO and OPPOSE Elder than it’s not a big deal to use your name.
Interesting site. I’m “just one delegate”, but at caucus I was asked what my thoughts were on The Sheriff position. I, like most delegates have only seen the public face & have no insight into the internal EPSO. I have only casually been following since the last fiasco. Yet, enough had filtered in for me to know things were not healthy there so doing my due diligence I took a look at the alternatives. Everything I saw about Angley impressed and on the surface I was no enemy of Elders, but things just seemed to need a fresh change & I really liked Angley’s qualifications, statements on transparency, and comments on fiscal responsibility. It appeared by evening’s end that all 3 would be casting ballots for Angley. It wasn’t until after the caucus was closed as I was walking out that one of the delegates pointed me here. I would like to point out something if you are a delegate wondering how much here is true or not, which I cannot with certainty comment either way. However, a true leader who has lost the confidence of so many for what ever reason would be well advised to consider whether they are still effective in achieving the mission. When the mission is the safety and helping to ensure our civil rights are not violated I want everyone in EPSO pulling in the same direction with as little distraction as possible. I think perhaps Angley may not offer leading us in a ‘new’ direction as much as simply being able to lead a greater majority of in the ‘same’ direction.
Just one…I too read all of this site. My thinking at first was that this is UNBELIEVABLE. Then I said to myself…for the sake of argument let us stipulate that this comes from the disgruntled, the fired, those wit an axe to grind with Bill, etc. Let’s also stipulate that 95% is false leaving 5% as true, EVEN if ONLY 5% is true, that in itself is SO DAMNING that Bill Elder absolutely should not get another shot at dicking up the office any more than he already has. My vote went to Mike Angley yesterday and he’s getting it again in the primary!!
KVOR story on the Midway fire,
In an interview today KVOR reported that the fire is out now that a large pile of used tires has been extinguished. The part that surprised me was that they identified the Chief of Operations as Jim Reid! This would be the same Jim Reid that is the Director of County Transportation. Does this mean that because a bunch of old tires that once rolled on county roads were burning that it fell under Jim Reid’s responsibility to run this operation? Or is it more likely that Bill Elder and John Padgett couldn’t get the job done and a higher authority stepped in and asked Jim Reid to do it. For those of you who don’t know Jim he’s the guy that ran wildfire operations for Waldo Canyon and Black Forest.
My guess is the second choice, I don’t think Bill Elder could put out a candle if Smokey Bear was his Undersheriff.
Anyway, Thank you Jim Reid.
A tire fire is considered a hazardous materials incident. The county Hazmat Team was taken away from the Sheriff’s Office and placed under EPC Emergency Management, which is under Jim Reid.
Just a clarification Duncan….. Jim Reid was not working for the Sheriff’s Office during the Black Forest Fire and did not run Wildfire Operstions although he did during Waldo Canyon Fire.
Seen on Facebook:
Sheriff Bill Elder threatened me. (Now he’s getting sued.)
I am not a spokesman for the Mike Angley for Sheriff campaign, but I endorse Mike. He has not asked me to send this email, nor coordinated with me in any way. Neither am I associated with the web-site https://dirtyelder.com and I have no idea who is.
I also do not speak for Dave Williams for HD15, Vickie Tonkins for CCD5, or Ray Garcia for HD21, but I endorse them all as solid conservatives. Vote for them at assembly.
In my personal capacity as a private citizen, I hereby firmly oppose Bill Elder for Sheriff, because Bill Elder personally threatened me. I regret having supported Elder in the past.
And I’m not the only one. Did you know on April 30th, Bill Elder is going on trial as defendant in a lawsuit, read here. Elder has continued the culture of harassment of his predecessor, Terry Maketa. While I am not a party to this lawsuit, I believe those who are now suing Bill Elder, because…
Two years ago, Bill Elder personally threatened me. I was afraid then, but I am not afraid today. While I fully expect Elder to retaliate for this email in my future, I feel empowered as a delegate at County Assembly, and I will vote for Mike Angley for Sheriff.
At the last county assembly, two years ago, Elder looked me in the eyes and said,”Gordon, how dare you say that my friend Bob Gardner co-sponsored Obamacare. If you continue to say that, I will personally dial every delegate and call you a liar.”
That threat, from a powerful man with a badge, of CONSEQUENCES IF I DIDN’T KEEP SILENT sent chills down my spine. I later emailed Bill personally to request he retract his threat, but he never did. (If he denies this, I’ll release the email. Just ask him in person.)
The truth is, Bill Elder fully supported Bob Gardner’s co-sponsorship of Obamacare that made it state law (proof here).
If you don’t believe me, just check Elder’s postcard in your mailbox today, with a big endorsement by “Obamacare Bob” Gardner, his buddy today.
WATCH MY VIDEO INTERVIEW WITH MIKE ANGLEY FOR SHERIFF HERE.
Here are 10 reasons I believe to be true, about why I’ll never vote for Bill Elder:
1) Elder’s cancelation of the 287G program (proof here) made us a “sanctuary county”and made it easier for illegal immigrants to “catch and release.” Because Elder did not stand firmly with President Trump’s ICE policy he invited and caused the recent ACLU lawsuit which just released more criminal aliens back into our society, making YOU less safe.
2) Elder is getting sued on April 30th, in part for continuing Maketa’s culture of harassment, read lawsuit against Bill Elder here.
3) Elder canceled Maketa’s fast-track pre-screening of some concealed carry permittees,delaying Second Amendment loving gun applicants for months instead of weeks.
4) Elder is not initiating marijuana arrests, but waiting for CBI and DOR to enforce the laws that he should be enforcing first.
5) Elder supported tax hikes in recent ballot initiatives, proving he’s not a conservative.
6) Elder is now deceiving delegates by personally telephoning YOU to call Angley “uncertified.” The truth his local certification is not required by law until 1 year after election, and even then Angley could serve forever without pay. Elder himself wasn’t certified when elected, but now claims that it’s mandatory? He lies.
7) Elder went out of his way to endorse all the RINO liberals in our party last election cycle, and opposed caucus-selected conservatives. Just look who he stands with.
8) Elder opposed Rep. Dave Williams’ legislative bill to hold elected officials accountable if they “catch and release” criminals who hurt citizens.
9) Elder accepts donations from his own employees, who are sure to get favors later. I predict he will punish or demote those who vote for Angley.
10) Elder’s own deputies don’t like him, since Elder frequently reportedly speaks abusive and foul language in private meetings where he berates his own staff. He’s a bad leader with a history of abuse of power.
Finally Elder is inexperienced compared to Angley with Elder having served only one command, when Angley commanded 5 federal law enforcement units.
Here is why I support Mike Angley for Sheriff:
“As a former State Rep and 20-year honorably discharged veteran I heartily endorse Mike Angley for Sheriff of El Paso County. Mike is a 25-year veteran criminal investigator and retired Colonel with OSI, the Air Force equivalent of NCIS. He’s a social conservative, has written for Breitbart, supported Sheriff Arpaio, commanded several large government law enforcement organizations, and would immediately put an end to multiple internal corruption and abuse of power problems still resident in our county Sheriff’s office. The failed leadership of Bill Elder, whom I regret supporting in the past, needs to be replaced with a man of integrity like Mike Angley who will 1) support conservatives instead of RINOs, 2) actually arrest and prosecute illegal grow houses, 3) end our catch-and-release “sanctuary county” problem, 4) speed up the concealed carry permit process, 5) end the culture of sexual harassment still ongoing from his predecessor, and 6) cease the new favoritism and internal promotion of political cronies in his own department. Mike Angley can be trusted, and Bill Elder’s actions prove his empty words cannot be trusted. I pray you volunteer, donate, and caucus for Angley for Sheriff.”
I’m not alone. Read the long list of others endorsing Mike Angley for Sheriff, here.
See you Saturday at the El Paso County GOP Assembly in Colorado Springs.
God Bless you!
Gordon Klingenschmitt, PhD
Gordon For Colorado
PO Box 77077, Colorado Springs, CO 80970
Wow people, if you want to know more about Bill and his band of merry men. Check out the post by Gordon Klingenschmitt to the Colorado Springs Republican Meetup Group on Facebook. Read this post and see how the almighty Bill has abused his authority and has made threats not only to his employees but to a private citizen.
Make an informed decision about who you want to represent you as sheriff and lead the agency into the future. I trust you will all do your own fact finding and see the post has truth and facts to support Gordon’s claims about Bill.
Stand together folks and lets make this happen. Do not let the madness of the present administration to continue.
Before tomorrow’s Assembly proceedings, we think it might be substantive to visit this KRW survey debacle just one more time:
– In a moment of weakness, the BOCC approved (in the Spring of 2015)spending tens of thousands of tax-payer dollars on an “independent” and “unbiased” boondoggle of a survey of the EPSO and it’s culture.
– The company that was contracted by the EPSO was KRW, and was headed by former CSPD Chief, City of Colorado Springs City Manager, and Bill Elder and Larry Borland’s close friend, Lorne Kramer (the “K” in KRW).
– Following completion of the survey, Elder, Borland, and Kramer (with family in tow) embarked on a 3-week catamaran trip around Grenada in early 2016. Who paid for that trip? Was it a gift to Elder and Borland for the lucrative contract??
– We’ve been told by certain Command Staff members that Larry Borland didn’t even enter his vacation time accurately during this trip, once again costing the tax-paying public thousands of dollars.
That trip alone just screams of “conflict of interest” and “abuse of power.” But let’s fast-forward to Summer 2017.
– KRW is once again involved in some type of follow-up survey.
– We understand that the results voiced by the employees of the EPSO were extremely unfavorable for the Elder administration.
– The results of the survey (a survey that was once again paid for by the citizens that Elder represents) are never released. What are you hiding, Sheriff? Just what are we paying for??
Is this what we’ve come to? Is Bill Elder our best option?? Do your homework delegates – he’s wasted our money and he’s wasted yours. And if elected to another term, he will continue to do so… and smile to your face as he’s doing it.
What Bill Elders “INCOMPETENCE” can and will cost you.
El Paso County is no longer the “Hometown” Bill Elder fantasizes over in his stump speech. Walter Mitty pretending to be the sheriff has consequences, unconscionable consequences. Voters, if you keep your head in the sand and don’t put a stop to Elders INCOMPETENCE you’ll pay the price in more than tax money.
This hometown boy does not have the credentials to counter the growing influx of crime in our county. MS 13 gangs and drug cartels are not hometown folks; they are an international threat. Allowing this to become a sanctuary county puts us one step closer to becoming a Texas border town and everything that comes with it.
• Increased gang activity
• Illegal immigrant population growth
• Homeless population growth
• Illegal marijuana grows
• Human trafficking
• Violent crimes
These are no longer “South side” problems, they are creeping into every area of the county. Briargate, Falcon, Black Forrest, Gleneagle, Springs Ranch, Old North end and the West side. Bill Elder hasn’t been part of the solution, he’s part of the problem.
The international crime that has invaded our hometown needs someone with international experience to fight it. Mr. Elders small view of the world has been focused on positions for his friends, contracts for his buddies (KRW), new cars and trips to San Diego, Grenada and countless other boondoggles.
Bill Elder has failed to put more deputies on the street and failed to staff his jail. The deputies need your help. The conditions they work under are extremely dangerous for them and you! The position that’s VACANT right now may very well be the one you need when you dial 911. More than 350 employees have left the EPSO under Bill Elders INCOMPETENCE.
Your tax dollars are funding his INCOMPETENCE!
Stop the madness.
Bill, did you really go to on vacation with Lorne Kramer and Larry Borland? Yes or No. Pick one. Bet you lie.
Dear Sheriff Elder,
See what happens when you tell folks you are a force of change and get their support and then you turn on them? They don’t vote for you at the County Assembly…plus they tell other folks how you and your command staff have pushed people to quit or retire and those people don’t vote for you either. Eventually, you end up having to face a competent candidate, with good credentials who can speak well in front of others…..while you crack a joke and use the death of one of your detectives to further your political career.
In addition to blatant harassment and intimidation by Lt. Huffor, it should also be noted that Sheriff Elder apparently felt it necessary to utilize a little more “subtle” form of intimidation during yesterday’s county assembly.
While ALL EPSO employees/Elder supporters in attendance were decked-out in those nice, white “Elder for Sheriff” t-shirts, Elder stationed one Lieutenant above the bleacher seating on each side of the assembly hall. Interesting that they WERE NOT wearing the Elder t-shirt, only a coat and tie in an misguided attempt to blend in. Why were they up there, Sheriff? Were they your “eyes in the sky” – merely observing the pageantry of the proceedings? Or was their intent one of intimidating the delegates in attendance?
Yes, Sheriff. We noticed.
The two lieutenants in question were actually working as Sergeant in Arms for the assembly. Their primary duties were to ensure that the decorum of the proceedings were not interrupted and to remove those in attendance who disrupted and interfered with the proceedings. There was actually a third one, but he apparently didn’t get the memo to dress respectably. I cannot speak as to whether they had an additional assignment to “observe and report.”
I would also note that the Sheriff may have been in violation of the rules of the assembly. According to the rules packet provided to all attendees, it stated that if you were a candidate that had an opponent, you could not do the invocation, the Pledge of Allegiance or hold any high official position…but, Elder was assigned as Sergeant In Arms. Perhaps the El Paso County GOP has some explaining to do?
Like having someone shout out “Elder” as candidate Mike Angley was preparing to speak? Or was it the “decorum” of having the Elder’s “stooges” raise their Elder signs as high as possible at each end of the hall while Angley addressed the delegates of El Paso County?
Sergeants at Arms? Please.
It was absolutely despicable that our fallen Deputy was used in an effort to garner votes. Shame on you Sheriff.
Pete Carey, how proud you must be to stand along side your buddy, or should I say “Cash Cow” Bill Elder. Now you are forever connected to the ridiculous high school tactics employed by the Elder thugs. What a proud moment for so called professional law enforcement, to create a gauntlet in front of the assembly hall to confront delegates. Some delegates actually thought it was a picket line protesting against Elder. Thanks for showing your true colors Pete, your just as bad as Bill. The two of you do make a lovely corrupt couple.
And to you County Commissioners
• Mark Waller
• Darryl Glenn
• Peggy Littleton
• Stan VanderWerf
• Longinus Gonzalez
You endorsed this behavior, like a conga line of clapping seals!
WOW WOW WOW,
This is how Elder likes to run his organization, like a crime boss with enforcers and folks used to intimidate dedicated employee. I heard there were two deputies lil billy harassed that left the assembly before balloting, along with his tirade of profanities unleashed in a restroom and observed by the general public. Such an example of a professional law enforcement officer. I wonder how many office policy violations were violated by billy alone. Or were this behavior ordered by Bill and he will give billy another pass.
But wait lil billy was not the only lone person who acted like an ass to a private citizen. Bill tried to harass a retired long time employee in the same manner. This delegate was not intimidated, and stayed to voted for Mike.
You know Colorado Springs wake up and see the true colors of this administration. There are witnesses to these behaviors by the billy’s, so do you own research. Call Bill’s favorite station and have them ask if these incidents happened at the county assembly. I think both are one step short away from these victims calling in a harassment complaint to the UCCS Police, or better yet, just file suit against the billy’s. How much more bad publicity can this office suffer before the truth is present to the general public.
Please Pam Zubeck, look into both these harassment incidents and be further verification they happened. I am sure you will confirm both incidents were in violation of campaign laws, civil law as well as criminal law and need to be investigated.
I think the employees of this office have responded directly to you Bill, no we are not alright, and we want you to leave before you finish destroying the office with all your failed administration. Listen good because the train is coming and you cannot stop karma!!!
And please, Pam Zubek, do a FOIA request for the most recent KRW audit report mentioned above and paid for by the taxpayers. Please!!!
Well Hello Bill (since I know you read these),
It was so nice to see you yesterday at the assembly! Not because I like to see you in general, but to see your expression when you realized that a lot of your white shirt wearing ‘supporters’ obviously voted for the better candidate, Mike Angley. Oh, the look on your face was priceless!
So, I thought I would offer you a suggestion. Maybe you should drop out of the election and retire!!! Here’s how I see it…
Obviously, things didn’t go as you had planned. You expected 85% of the vote, but something went sideways for you. That something was a LOT of your former and CURRENT employees. By this time, you have to know that there is a very significant number of your employees who absolutely can not stand you. And those same people have been diligently collecting and diseminating documentation of your corruption. And don’t think for a moment that all those former Maketa Commanders who turned on him won’t turn on you. I know of one of them who is already providing info to Angley’s campaign.
Now that Mike is on the ballot, the media is going to start listening to him and his campaign. You must realize that we are going to open the valve on the back of the septic tank truck and start dumping all of your filth all over the city. The public (the voters) will finally get to see the real Bill Elder.
Is that how you want your career to end? Publicly shamed like you have so desperately tried to do to Terry Maketa? It will be with pleasure that we will do it to you!
So, your choice. Save face, withdraw from the election and fade off into the sunset, or find a good solvent to get the tar and feathers off of you, ’cause you know it’s coming!
What has Elder and his dimwit commander Padgett done with this countie’s qualified wildland fire fighters? Scott Campbell, fire crew founder and crew leader since 1994… forced to resign. Other qualified fire fighters, paid and volunteer resigned due to recent bs in the Emergency services division. Bottom line, if you have experience and knowledge, but are not a “yes man”…. you are gone. 2018 is setting up to be a VERY ACTIVE fire season and EPSO valuing political bs over tax payer property.
Citizen in Shock
Wow, the behavior of members of the Bill’s campaign on Saturday was distressing at the least. From the beginning of the assembly to the end there was the intimidation from the time you got off the bus. You were met by 10-20 aggressive supporters. If you indicated you were a Bill supporter you got a handshake and a pat on the back. If you indicated you supported Mike Angley, you received aggression, disrespect and some even were harassed and threatened in front of command staff.
So many witnesses to this behavior.
I think this behavior was pure discrimination and retaliation by members of the sheriff’s staff, to include command staff. I would think they would have to report the individual who was acting manic and aggressive to private citizens to the Undersheriff, or Internal Affairs.
The response on one commander was oh, I see you just met Huffor. The actions of Huffor towards this citizen, also a retired office deputy, rose above the level of disrespect, threatening and harassing. Huffor’s action were unprofessional, criminal, and it was the responsibility of staff have a duty to report to the office, to the UCCS campus police to investigate, or have Huffor leave property due to his unprofessional behavior to start.
But, we all know lil billy feels the entitlement to be able to act this way and thinks he is above the law. Elder did the same to another retiree and longtime “friend”. If you are not a supporter of old bill, god help you. I think both Bill’s are having episodes in immediate need of mental evaluations to ensure the safety of the public. At this point you have two thugs with badges and no one from the office or the county is addressing their behavior.
Also heard king actually called an employee and told him if he knew what was good he had better vote to support crooked bill. Now this type of behavior using a telephone falls under the title of phone harassment and threats. Hello, Pete what are you going to do about this one, bury your head in the sand and allow this behavior to continue. Thought so, you are as unprofessional as the rest.
So, folks has any one from this corrupt clan of thugs with badges reported the actions and behavior of any of these folks yet. I guess they missed the class on duty to report.
Good people of the EPSO, we understand what you are up against and this is why you needs to stand strong and united. Citizens of El Paso county, please stand up and question this administration’s behavior.
The republican leadership needs to launch their own investigation on the these acts of harassment committed at the assembly. This assembly was controlled and run by elder and his thugs, not by leadership of the party. The public is watching along with all the media sources, what are you going to do republican leaders?
Its time to end exploitation by the elder administration and bring back professionalism to this office. Be proud those from the office who supported Mike, we know the majority with be able to vote from the privacy of your homes for the primary. God bless you good folks. The rest can retire and move away, except bill, there will be no retirement, just move away in shame.
This voter intimidation is unbelievable.
Since when does a long-time Detention Bureau Commander have the right to pull a delegate’s ballot out of her envelope during the Assembly to see how she voted? How is this allowed to happen??
Sheriff Elder, when will you realize you were elected to the Office of Sheriff based on your Promises YOU made to both the Citizens and Employees of the office after all the Maketa mischief. Yet all I hear is how you not only continued the shenanigans, you started from day one and have not let up a bit.
When will you, and you alone be the Sheriff and not let the Huffors act as if they were co-sheriff, and stop the drama?
I believe in my heart of hearts, that any vote for you today, equates to a vote for Bill(y) Huffor in about four years. That would be disastrous for the Office, and the community.
If you are so comfortable with your actions and the running of the Office to date, you have been allowed to run for the past three and a half years, maybe now YOU, not Bill(y) Huffor should consider open debate with Mike Angley, and put to rest the common belief you fear debating the competition.
After all the controversy that occurred at the Republican General Assembly, one would think you would want to get out and show the voters that you are the good guy you so vehemently claim to be. if you are to busy or otherwise concerned, you could send Lt Huffor as your stand in. Remember you were given our trust once, if you want it again, then step up to the plate.
From the sheriff’s office website:
Honesty: Our personal and professional behavior will be a model for all to follow. Our actions will match our words. We will have the courage to stand up for our beliefs and do what is right.
Loyalty: We are loyal to our oath to protect the constitutional rights of those we serve by empowering our employees to make decisions that support the letter and spirit of the law.
Unity: We have a united commitment to serve our diverse community with fairness, dignity, and equality. We commit to excellence in all we do.
I would say the SO’s command staff FAILED miserably at all of the above. The commanders, bureau chief and other lieutenants that were witnesses to the events or were made aware of what happened and DID NOTHING are a disgrace to the office, the badge, and the community. Bill Elder is no leader and the daily actions by him and his cronies are proof.
Can’t wait to see the KRW report from Sept 2017 interviews/focus groups. That report will show everyone what a lousy leader Bill Elder is. The employees see it and the voters are starting to see it.
I must say that I enjoyed the Assembly Process once again. A different twist for me this go around as I posed as an Elder supporter along with my BFF to cast my vote for Angley. There were several of us there posing and we enjoyed watching Huffor actually believe that we were there for Elder. Jokes on you Huffor! Now on to the Primary Election to finish him off. I am hoping to see some much needed changes from Angley when he takes over. Hopefully his first order of business would be getting rid of the Huffors! Then on to removing those people Elder promised high paying civilian promotions before he took office and new positions he just made up for his friends. The undersheriff may have to stop his 2 hour lunches with O’Meal. How tragic! How did that promotion work out for you Sheriff? I heard that her employees are transferring out of her section like rats off a ship. We will continue to play the poser game while at work so the Elder campaign doesn’t know who to trust. I hope other posers post here. I truly enjoyed watching this go down.
Much like the Academy Awards, here are the top 10 things I noticed at the Republican Assembly:
1. (THE RED CARPET) Paula Presley still turns heads, or in this case entire grown men. In the hallway of tables leading to the assembly hall there was limited space to walk without shuffling along with the herd. I happened to notice Mitch Lincoln, Tom DeLuca and Rob King making their way through the crowd. From the opposite direction and drawing some attention came Paula Presley, Immediately and with what could only be described as “Military Precision”, the three stooges did a 180 in the opposite direction. She obviously still scares the stuffing out of them. (Advantage Paula)
2. (THE YAPPING TOY POODLE) Billy Huffor was on hand to try and intimidate what he believed to be Angley delegates among EPSO deputies both current and retired. I understand he ran off two but one retired deputy all but kicked him aside much like a heel hound. The two delegates the he did manage to run off were substituted by countless undecided delegates who after watching this Muppet Show voted for Angley. Billy just can’t help himself, this is the guy you remember from high school who got hung by his undershorts inside his locker. Uncle Bill his given him a title and Janet forgot to lock the cage. (Advantage Angley)
3. (TINY TIM ACT) Joy Elder managed to hobble in on her crutches to support her hubby Bill. No doubt this was a Herculean effort on her part what with the throngs of Bill supporters pushing for a closer look. Maybe not, after the assembly Joy walked out across the large open courtyard with what seemed to be ease in her step only occasionally bumping the crutches along the ground. Once she reached the steps leading to the courtyard she tucked the crutches under her arm and simply walked down the two flights of stairs. (Advantage Angley)
4. (GRUMPY OLD MAN) Larry Borland was on hand to support Bill (His Paycheck). He was his usual stone face “I just stepped in dog crap and tracked it on the new carpet” self. What a joy this guy must be to live with. He’s still counting the 1A money but it’s not likely that Ebenezer brought in many delegates for Bill. (Advantage Angley)
5. (WHAT HAVE I DONE) Pete Carey has to be asking himself this question or at least he had that look all day. Finding out first hand what a jackass your friend is puts a certain look on your face, you know that look a guy gets when she says “Honey I’m Pregnant”. How does it feel Pete? Now two organizations of people think you’re a putz. Welcome to the FOB Friends of Bill! (Advantage Angley)
6. (WHAT HAVE I DONE II) Darryl Glenn, your look when the final count came in was priceless, it looked just like the guy who mixed up the video tapes he sent to his wife and girlfriend, trying desperately to chase down the mailman. I think your guys in trouble Darryl. (Advantage Angley)
7. (MISS HAYSEED OF FAIRPLAY COLORADO) Janet Huffor was so sure that Saturday was her day. Finally, she would come out from behind the shadow of Wendy Habert who was called in to help Bill get into office in the first place. Janet left the assembly alone trying to put on a happy face but by the time she made it to her car she looked like Tammy Fay Baker. Cry, cry, cry (Advantage Wendy Habert)
8. (STEP ASIDE B%#TCH) Wendy Habert once again steps forward with the grace of a rhino pushing her understudy Janet “Hayseed” aside. Wendy could be seen in the assembly hall fanning Bill with a campaign sign. No doubt her man Otis was peeling grapes for Bill on the sidelines. This is Wendy’s House and she wanted everyone to know it. If Bill felt pee running down his leg it may not have been his own but that of Wendy marking her territory. (Advantage Wendy)
9. (THE GREAT PRETENDER) Bill Elder is at best a mediocre real estate broker. He has no business pretending to be the sheriff. He has no leadership skills and no moral compass to carry out the job. He has relied on others to carry him to this point. Many well qualified people helped put him where he is based on hope and promises. Now we all see that Bill Elder is a “Fence Post Turtle” You know he didn’t get there on his own, he has no business being where he is, and he is serving no useful purpose being there. It’s time to take him down. Bill Elder left the county assembly on Saturday an angry man, his jaw was set, his face was red and lil Billy the Yapping toy poodle was at his side. Is this the future you want in the sheriff’s office? (Advantage Angley)
10. (HUMILITY, HONOR, DIGNITY) After most delegates had left the building and long after Bill Elder and his supporters had left the building, the process was still going on. I saw a tired but very dignified man stay until the last vote which was held for his precinct. Mike Angley who shares the same district as Bill Elder stayed to cast his vote for his neighbors. This is someone I can follow; this is someone who will make a difference.
ADVANTAGE……………….The people of El Paso County!
There’s nothing like an Easter Day 4pm Gazette article that might have anything faintly negative to do with the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office. Just is case is disappears overnight:
As CS Lewis said “Readers are advised to remember the devil is a liar.”
As I think back to assembly I have so many disgusted thoughts on how the Elder gang conducted themselves. They turned a day of some many first time delegates eager to participated in the process into a nightmare of threats, intimidation, harassment, and unprofessional behaviors. From Elder himself who denies he did nothing wrong.
Then why when Carey and Evans tried to have you meet with the retired deputy you verbally assaulted and berated for supporting Angley did you respond, “I did nothing wrong”. That is because you are always doing things wrong and this is the norm for you. This is not over so you had better be ready for the next investigation about to come knocking to look into your actions. Election law violations are not something to laugh at.
Huffor, you lil punk, and yes that is what you are. Well you have stepped over the line one to many times and your world is about to come down. Old Bill cannot save you now, and I hope the old command staff are ready. They had better be ready with some official reports and what they you did and why they did not take the proper actions. Sure hope they do not perger themselves, that is a crime.
Bill’s nasty comment has truely hit home in this town of heros who “did” serve in the military and were disabled or must now use handicap plates. Folks with disabilities do vote and have turned on the realtor for good. Best dust off that license, start selling off some toys, and if you are lucky maybe Maxwell well let you work for him.
Bon voyage, and enjoy the retirement. But first you are going to be held accountable for your actions on March 24, 2018. You are not immune,
The writing is pn the wall Folks…..everyone knows that the next Commander promoted will be Lil Billy Huffor.
Does the current Command Staff really want a Commander that behaves as Billy does?
Do the employees of EPSO deserve a lil brat that throws tantrums when he doesnt get his way then lies about his actions?
Does the County of El Paso want this egotistical narcissistic maniac in charge???
Lil Billy has been hand picked and coddled by Elder since day one.
1. Promoted to Sgt. without a normal Promotion process- then placed into a postion that was invented for him- he didnt have to work in the jail as others have too.
2. Rules changed during the LT promotion process to allow lil Billy to compete and be promoted (all of which has been reverted back to the way it was before)
3. Worked as an LT in the jail for a very short period of time, where he worked his own hours and got into some trouble. Then he was placed in a highly coveted new postion (another made up position for Elders buddy Maxwell)
The people of EPSO and the County must know whats going on and where the office is headed.
Let Elder know that you wont stand for it any longer. EPSO Employees are neither dumb or blind. We are fed up.
Once again…our Sheriff attempts to pass the buck and put the blame on the “community” and all the while showing his immense compassion.
THE GAZETTE – Homeless camp near Old Colorado City dismantled in Sheriff Office’s latest effort to clean up county
By: Chhun Sun •
April 4, 2018• Updated: Today at 2:47 pm
About 20 people living along Fountain Creek between Old Colorado City and Manitou Springs were evicted Wednesday, the latest in the El Paso County Sheriff Office’s efforts to dismantle homeless camps.
Sheriff Bill Elder acknowledged that campers are known to pitch tents a few hundred yards away after being told to leave a site. “All we’ve been doing is basically kicking them back and forth between the city and county,” he said. “We’ve got to do better with that. We’re trying to treat these people with dignity and respect and give them time to move on. The community’s got to step up. The community’s got to understand that we’re not going to arrest our way out of the homeless situation.”
Wow…”kicking” our homeless “back and forth?” How touching, Bill. Really showing a lot of heart there, Sheriff. Perhaps a few of these “homeless” were delegates at last week’s assembly…it sounds as if your and your team are treating them with equal “dignity and respect.”
It seems to us that your constant cries of “community” just aren’t working, Bill. Don’t the citizens and leaders of El Paso County respect your thoughts and ideas?
I know we don’t.
Colorado Springs homelessness coalition on the move, expanding health focus
The cleanup came after several complaints by area residents and property owners. Huffor said notices of the cleanup were posted Saturday and Monday.
Shelter beds were available, including 20 at the Springs Rescue Mission on Wednesday. The Salvation Army’s Weber Street emergency warming shelter – which can hold 150 people – housed 80 men and 15 women Tuesday night.
“When there’s a camp cleanup, wherever it is, generally our warming shelter fills up close to capacity,” said Capt. David Kauffman, who leads the Salvation Army’s El Paso County chapter.
Wednesday’s cleanup was conducted along a mile of Fountain Creek.
Several campers declined to be interviewed, though one said he was waiting for the workers to leave before he moved back into the area.
Hmmmmm…..last I checked, its a Sheriif’s Office, meaning the Sheriff can promote whomever they wish (cause you all are so super smart, this may have slipped your notice). Angley will rule with the exact same autocratic/elitism and authority (he knows all about compartmentalized command (his words), just ask him or those who worked under him) new boss meet the old boss….but of course, bringing back to the Office all of the wronged, disgruntled employees who now support him will make things right again. What a crock.
Oh, and since you won’t post this anyway (see? Our group has written many comments to your posts as well….with no response unless we agree with all of the whiny b.s. you spew…yup…psy ops) from what we saw, Evans was nowhere near the Assembly, but hey, you fact check everything, right?
Get a life….
I’m glad your message was posted, also glad you pointed out that “Angley will rule” your words.
Attention all deputies, looks like bill and lil billy are going to make you folks work even shorter than you already are. They feel the need to justify a full-time homeless outreach team. Must be time to payoff some more of his cronies. I am sure while they were talking at the homeless camp today, bill was telling billy to get all these f _ _king cripples out of here. We know the majority of the homeless have mental health issues and this is how bill refers to anyone who has a disability.
Lets see, there are so many promotions on the horizon you are going to need a scorecard to keep track of who is where. There are so many leaks on 5th floor its amazing. Congrats Mitch, how is the koolaid.
Saddle up bill and get ready for more than an 8 second ride, its call karma. There are going to be tough questions and investigations coming at you from every direction, and teflon billy will become even a bigger liability for you.
Its just amazing how many retired military and handicap folks citizens you have offended by your comment at the assembly. Hear your phone ringing, it could be Pam, a tv news reporter, or any number of other agencies looking into violations you and staff committed at the assembly. You may have put off the trial in Denver, but karma is closer than you think to becoming your new best friend.
Lets see how you like being under the microscope. Maybe you need some botox, you are really looking more haggard than ever. Are you more worried than usual? Is the person you talking to really drinking the koolaid or just letting you think they are with you. Must be tough thinking about what you will be doing this time next year, and wondering, what happened!! Its called greed and disrespect.
The dynamic duo are now eviction experts!
Well at least Big Bill is doing something with his real estate experience and teaching lil Billy a new career, he may need it. Once again the Big Bill is on the cheap campaign trail and the local news is once again fooled into giving him air time. Today the target was the homeless camp on the west side. Sheriff Bill is now claiming that this is a “Community” problem. Wrong Bill, now it’s your sticky bogger because you decided to announce it as YOUR campaign promise.
Let’s see how your doing:
You and lil billy have been busy busting up these camps of pot nomads and getting them out from under our bridges but where are they going? Well you’ve managed to upgrade their living conditions Bill, congratulations on checking off your first big campaign item. This group of the counties social under crust has moved into the Pikes Peak Public Library on Cascade Ave, Good job Bill!
That’s right, take a trip down to the library folks, you know the place, it’s where 35% of your property tax goes to fund the new homeless camp of El Paso County. Don’t go there until you’ve stopped by your local health clinic and updated your tetanus and hepatitis shot. Once you get there it’s like a new Disney ride “Underpass World” complete with needles on the floor, people vomiting between the isles of such classics as Moby Dick and Charles Dickens. You’ll find hookers turning tricks in the periodical section, and everyone’s favorite the public restrooms covered in vomit and feces! Think I’m joking, go down and look for yourself at what your tax dollars are buying!
Thanks Bill, what are you going to do about that gang problem you promised to solve, move them into the Antlers?
It was nice of you to clean up the language of your latest news teaser. Everyone already knows the F-bomb was dropped in that comment too.
Once again, Sheriff Bill Elder has managed to step in it. I’ve just go to know just who his Communications Team is??!!
The Gazette – April 5, 2018
‘Innocent bystander’ wounded in gunbattle that killed El Paso County deputy is suing for $1 million
“A civilian wounded in the gunbattle that killed an El Paso County sheriff’s deputy earlier this year is planning to sue the city of Colorado Springs and the county for at least $1 million.”
“Villanueva was described by Sheriff Bill Elder as an “innocent bystander”
Way to go, Bill – You are both judge, jury, (and apparently a witness) this time.
Write the check, El Paso County taxpayers.
…and rest in peace, Micah.
Just following up…
It’s a wonder that at least The Gazette and KRDO both had the grapes to actually report the Villanueva lawsuit. Thank you both for stepping up. Can’t wait to hear El Paso County spokesperson (puppet) Dave Rose tell us that the County “wasn’t aware of any Officer Involved Shooting.”
Anyhow…where’s KOAA, and Fox 21 (granted..A. Chin did a brief “parrot” of KRDO’s initial report on KKTV – maybe she needs another hug or two from Sheriff’s Bill Elder’s wife, Joy? And whatever happened to Fox21 and News Director Joe Cole? He used to have journalistic scruples.) These are the stories, folks…
BTW – Would SOMEBODY/ANYBODY please push for the status of the CSPD/EPSO shooting investigation? It’s been two months…what exactly are you hiding? Just who shot whom??
We know you know…it’s time to tell us.
Looks like another weekend and more cover up by the Elder crew. It sure seems like the friends of bill (FOB) have a problem with taking action when they are eyewitnesses to a crime to report it to the appropriate agency, generate a case report to assist an outside agency concerning the crime, or wait, just handle it internally and pretend it was not that bad. But wait most of Elder’s staff have never completed a case report, investigated a crime or testified in court as a charging officer. How could this be and obtain these high positions? It all depends who you are and who you know, right bill.
After reading the article about Lt Williams in the Gazette, it sure did show he was taking the proper actions as required by office policies. But no Bill and Larry Borland felt the need to protect and cover up his special folks.
I heard there was an incident where two members of your office were involved in a fight, and the victim was actually completely chocked out. Sure does sound like Probable cause for felony charge. That incident should have been investigated and charges filed.
It started out as a fight, a 911 hang up, and a call for service was initiated. EPSO responded up the pass to where the call came from. What happened to that call record, was a case report generated, and was the case forwarded to your friend Dan May for review and filing of charges. Of course not judge bill, it was only handled improperly internally, by you and your staff. Here again, why was this incident not identified as a crime and a criminal case generated. Again failure to report, and all parties involved are guilty of failing to report.
Now that was a whooper, but what about the underage drinking involving the daughter of a reserve Lt and other members of your office. It seems like this episode happened after an awards banquet. This group of employees all tried to extend the evening at TNT’s, a local strip club. But, the bouncer at the door would not allow a the young female entry due to her being underage. At this point, everyone in the group was aware she was under age, and was working for the civilian supervisor. It seemed the deputies in the party attempted to use their influence, and official ID’s to persuade the bouncer to allow entry. Again, denied. Seems like the civilian bouncer had more ethical character than these deputies or office employees.
Here we go again, of course this was handled internally, and not completely by policy, since old bill and larry do not know their own policies and protect his supporters. It would seem like the boys in IA who investigated this incident should have identified a criminal violation after starting their investigation. This incident should have been reported to CSPD for investigation. But hey, Bill just wanted this handled internally to protect the civilian supervisor, deputies, and the daughter of his supporter’s daughter. So many office policies and criminal violations were violated, but hey if you are an FOB, you are immune according to bill. Just ask Billy Huffor.
A final note, what happened to the duty to report by Lincoln, King, DeLuca and several other members at the assembly who witnessed the harassing and threatening behavior by Huffor. We know hey witnessed this because King told the victim, “I guess you just met Bill Huffor.” Were any memos/case report generated to report this harassment, was Huffor ordered off property due to his behavior, were the UCCS police or CSPD notified of the crime that was just witnessed? Surely not, this was an protected elder supporter and husband of campaign manager Janet Huffor.
Well news outlets, newspapers and Dan May how long can you turn your heads, stick them in the sand, or continue to be as guilty as the present sheriff and his staff. Its time for careers to end by being ethical and a true police officer for once. Will you do the right thing, or just keep your mouth shut and end your career in shame when the truth finally comes out and YOU are called to testify and be accountable.
This week marks the anniversary of the Titanic sinking. An unbelievable tragedy brought on by the arrogance of the leadership at the White Star company. Here we go again!
The Elder campaign has taken to desperation. The new tactic within the walls of the EPSO is to have the current staff spread stories of Armageddon should Mike Angley become the sheriff, “He has no experience”.
Folks, it’s the rank and file that carry out the function of law enforcement and detentions. No sitting sheriff pulls a shift in a patrol car or in a ward at the jail, we do. The position of sheriff is about leadership and running an organization. Mike Angley’s leadership experience over Bill Elders is vast.
Bill says he spent years as a deputy and in fact rose to the rank of lieutenant. He was also called into question over finances within his section, sound familiar? He’s failed at running his own finances to the point of bankruptcy. When confronted with these issues, he ran away to become a real estate salesman. Now he’s your Hometown guy with years of law enforcement experience? How many people that Bill Elder promoted to be your supervisors are hometown guys yet completely ineffective as leaders?
Bill Elder and Larry Borland have been playing a shell game with the 1A funds and there’s nothing to show for it. There’s no money for training, overtime, or anything else but payroll for his elite class of friends on the fifth floor. 1A is going to sunset in 2020 what is he doing about it, “FULL SPEED AHEAD”.
In Bills first campaign he said the organization had suffered a “detrimental vicarious impact” and that the Maketa era was done! Yet on day one of the Elder reign he had the same staff plus Hatch walk up and down the halls until the music stopped, then they jumped into the nearest office and simply took on the title posted on the door. Since then our world has been a mess. Now these same people tell us if Angley wins we’ll sail off into the unknown. If Bill Elders idea of leadership is putting Janet Huffor in charge of his entire staff, what kind of experience is steering the boat?
This is nothing more than panic in the hearts of those who fear the gravy train is coming to an end.
Voter response in a primary with a mail-in ballot is historically low and Elder knows it. You don’t have to cross a gauntlet of staff to vote or put on your Elder T-shirt to walk to your mailbox. You, your family and friends can make all the difference in turn out from the privacy of your home. This is why they’re scared and spreading wild stories of doom.
When Ronald Reagan ran for office in 1980 he asked a simple question, “Are you better off now than you were four years ago”. I think the next four years will be a challenge for this office. I think it’s going to take leadership to get us through rough waters. I know what to expect from Bill Elder and the Huffors, like that fabled ship, there’s only enough lifeboats for first class! Start counting off by three’s
My vote is for Mike Angley
What a well written comment. It is sad that is rings loud with the horrible truth. We cannot afford another 4 years as it is. We need a real leader. We need a change. I too, am voting for Angley.
Here’s the ugly part of 1A sunsetting in 2020 if not renewed. A LOT of deputies will lost their jobs if that funding is lot. But…. which ones will lose their jobs? Simple… those who are identified as 1A deputies. But which ones are those?
Ahhh… therein lies the problem. Are you a current deputy? Is there a “1A” tagged next to your name on the master roster? Doesn’t matter what is used to be, what matters is where it is now. You see, those designations have changed since Elder got elected. I watched the changes taking place on the roster. Today, you are not a “1A” deputy. Tomorrow, you are.
Elder never provided a comment on why the positions were moved around, but I think we all know.
If you are a current deputy, and not a big Elder supporter, you have a problem on your hands. One of those “1A” noted may be next to YOUR name now.
No need to schedule retirement ceremonies each month, nobody is opting to have one. Everyone would rather just leave and not have to stand in the same room with these dim bulbs. It’s like “Cake with a Cop” another Elder political event.
So Bill Elder wants to find out who is behind this website, so much so that he may have asked Pete Carey to help get to the bottom of it. Why would Bill Elder go to such lengths to get this information? Mr. Elder, first you call Pam Zubecks reporting “Crap” and now you wish to unmask the authors of this website. I think you don’t like the public being aware of the truth. This website has backed up most of it’s stories with DOCUMENTS. Many of these have come from within your organization so there is no doubting their authenticity. I’d also point out that a good number of them have your signature.
If we were to wait on the Gazette, FOX21, KKTV, KRDO, KOAA or KVOR radio to report any of this it would never come to light. It is odd that in what’s considered a conservative community, that all the local media have circled the wagons much like the “Main stream media” that they complain about. You would think that the stories produced on this website along with the DOCUMENTATION provided would at least garner a story on say page six, but no. This is why this website is in business. It is no different than the “Call for Action” segments on Channel 5 or any other watchdog formats seen on local news.
When common people get sick and tired of no results from their public officials they tend to take action. This philosophy is what made this country and what continues to keep it going. When you call all of us liars because we question you, when you call us cripples because you feel the heat of defeat closing in, when you protect your inner circle while they make a mockery of the organization they represent, when you dismiss us because we question your twisted logic we take action as we do on this website.
We do it anonymously because as we’ve seen by your actions at work and at the county assembly, you take reprisal actions against us. You threaten us during In-Service training, you have your Command Staff do the same, you meet us with a picket line at the assembly, you send your lieutenants to intimidate us, your commanders open our envelopes to see that we are voting for you. This website is a product of the fear and intimidation tactics that you alone have created, practiced and expanded.
Mr. Elder if you wish to know who is behind this website, take a look in the mirror, IT’S YOU!
The sting of a remark is usually in proportion to it’s truth.
Well said, We the People,
The office is loosing so many good people who have had enough of this administrations crap. Wow, three Sgt’s in one week, that is unheard of for this office.
By the way, how are all those IA investigations going? St Charles and Hilte, are you getting these investigations investigated throughly and unbiased, or are you drinking the Elder kool-aid? Probably not, no backbone or integrity in either of you. Its amazing how these complaints all involve Huffor, your chosen golden boy. You may protect him on the in-house complaints, but what about the criminal complaint that was filed reference to his behavior at the assembly.
Have the two commanders, the Bureau Chief and who knows how many other employees witnessed Huffor’s behavior been interviewed yet. Bet they still have not completed their duty to report memos on lil Billy harassing a retired deputy (private citizen) at the assembly.
Bill, are you just going to give your standard lie, its your word against mine. Probably how billy will answer when interviewed. Like father like son. Be interesting how this complaint shakes out. Just waiting to see if this needs to elevated to the next level for investigation and prosecution.
Is this why Lincoln moved up his retirement sooner. As soon as he was mentioned as witnessing this crime, he conveniently moved up his retirement date. Its okay, they will find you to be interviewed and get your subpoena for court.
Just a final question, to all those retired military folks supporting Elder, just curious how many of them have a disability rating, DV plates on their vehicles, really feel about you referred to them as cripples, just because of having a service related disability. This is something Elder would know nothing about, military service, but he did wear a pathfinder medal which he never earned.
Sorry Bill, you just need to go before you finish destroying the good people still working at the sheriff’s office, I’m sure they are tired of the lack of leadership, cronyism, and lack of budgetary transparency. Probably due to over spending staffing the fifth floor too many chiefs (Campaign donators) and not enough indians, (dedicated employees).
Stand by good people of the EPSO and private citizens, your next vote is in private, so vote if you want the same leaders for four more years, or a new administration that values and appreciates your work on a daily basis.
Vote to get Bill and company gone, and help build the new administration. You are the biggest part of making this office great and professional, again. Vote for Angley.
Anyone can be a sheriff, or leader of any kind, when the sun is shining and everyone is happy. The test comes when things aren’t sunny. That is when you see what a person is made of.
Right now, things aren’t sunny. Look at retention; good people walking away–no, they are running away–from a county sheriff. They should be running TO the Sheriff. They should be looking for a job here in EPSO. But they are not. Instead, they are running away.
And how is Bill Elder handling this? He yells, swears, calls his electoral opponent a cripple. He avoids live interviews.
Bill Elder is in over his head. He is in a panic.
People voted against Hillary Clinton for the same reason, and thank goodness. Hopefully, people will do the same and vote for MIKE ANGLEY for Sheriff.
Wow what will be next? Just amazing you have a commander who cannot be alone with any female employee. You have a Lt who is banned from dispatch because he does not understand NO! You have another LT who thinks its okay to do remedial training by patting down a female on camera.
What do all of these predators have in common, the same protector, the good old home town boy protecting his boys from criminal prosecution or in house discipline.
Is this any way for a leader to act. Has he ever heard what happens when you protect and keep these types of employees on staff. Do the math bill, this equals $$$$. These folks need start suing you personally and make you accountable for allowing this behavior to continue, its not a big secret.
Wake up people, this is no different than having a sexual predator released from prison. At least you get notified he has moved in to the neighborhood. Bill needs to issue warning where he is assigning his own office predators.
The only way to stop this behavior is to make everyone of them accountable, either criminally or filing a civil suit. Would you allow you own children to be treated this way? Become a whistle blower and report this behavior to HR, Bill says he supports this for the protection of his employees. Make it happen!!!
This behavior is probably just one step away from a rape or worse. Curb this unprofessional dangerous behaviors now. Stand up for yourself and the rest of your family at the office.
It looks like Lincoln is gone now, how much longer before the other two leave? This was not a big loss to retirement, he never really had any special talents or accomplishments.
I hear old Tom got chocked up and could not finish his little speech. But why would lil billy get up to make a speech, as a thank you to Mitch for protecting him and covering up his assault. I wonder who the next promotion will be, surely it will be another butt kissing yes man.
Tic, tic, tic, how are those IA cases on little Billy coming. I hear the inspector agreed a crime had been committed by Huffor. So why not stop this investigation, report the crime, have the IA investigation follow the criminal. Is this not procedure and policy? I sure hope they interview all the witnesses, especially the one that just retired and King. King’s comment, “I guess you just met Bill Huffor”. Wow. that proves he was a witness for both the IA, the criminal investigation, and possibly a civil suit.
So Bill, is billy worth protecting? We know you wanted him to be sheriff, but he is not even qualified to be a cop with integrity, just like you, none.
Look out for more breaking news from the fifth floor next week, should be very interesting. Cover up’s, complaint investigations, should be completed next week. The road to the next level of investigation is already in place. I hope you folks do the right thing and do not become a part of a cover up and a party to future litigation.
Tic, tic, tic, who will turn in paper next. How about the harassing patrol Lt, oh wait there are several of those. Cannot wait to hear, another one bites the dust.
Citizens of El Paso County, have you had enough yet? Your chief law enforcement official “Bill Elder” doesn’t know the law. His most recent blunder will cost us dearly in tax money to be REWARDED to illegals because he has no idea what he’s doing. The Colorado Supreme Court has blown him out of the saddle which will result in a grand payout. A similar case in Denver county resulted in the victims receiving about 10k per day for their overstay of four days. Bill kept these people for months!
It’s official “Colorado Springs is a Sanctuary City” thanks to Bill Elder. No doubt we’ll soon be the highlight of MSNBC and other liberal news outlets. Maybe Bill can get interviewed by Joe & Mika. Had we simply been signed on to the 287g program all would be well, but NO! The much heralded financial genius of Bill “Bankruptcy” Elder has struck again. Having this guy as our sheriff is like having a mental patient holding a bottle of nitroglycerin while under anesthesia.
• Mark Waller
• Peggy Littleton
• Longinus Gonzalez
• Stan VanderWerf
• Darryl Glenn
YOU ALL ENDORSED THIS FOOL!
Peggy Littleton led the charge for a vote of No Confidence on Terry Maketa for alleged sexual affairs but she gives this idiot a pass? Pull your heads out Commissioners, you too must run for re-election and if you’re not at the table, you’re on the menu! The sexual harassment cases are growing along with the retaliation cases and the deplorable conduct at the county assembly not to mention this latest gaff that will cost we the tax payers several hundred thousand.
If three people tell you there’s a stick up your butt, you don’t need to wait for the X-Rays to come back! Four more years of Bill Elder and we’re San Francisco East”. Wake up people, vote to get rid of this fool and take a long hard look at the County Commissioners who are supporting and endorsing him.
The HR reporting process began when the Sheriff was “acting” like he wanted transparency. However, when the very first HR investigation revealed the level of harassment taking place in the office, the Sherrif quickly shut that process down in order to stop the bleeding HR was uncovering in the highest echelons of the command staff who protect the lower ranking harassers in order to protect the environment at EPSO. HR recommended termination, but the Sheriff elected to only demote and then got rid of the process. He brought the process back to EPSO when he turned the reporting process over to the county attorneys who protect the Sheriff’s office. Hence, nothing is being done since that happened. HR cracked the shell on the environment at EPSO and the Sheriff realized he was in over his head allowing the environment to be seen and leaked by employees who were coming forward to give statements. They also caught on to the retaliation that takes place in the office allowing him to abuse his power amongst many of the women at EPSO.
Reporting to HR is no longer an option, they were uncovering the corruption. So the county paid the employee for what happened to her, never even fought the allegations she brought against the county because they were proven. They sought her out to settle her proven case in order to avoid the “A Rated” EEOC complaint filed against them. Then, the process was handed over to the county attorney to make sure no one ever came close again to uncovering the truth.
It’s going to take EEOC complaints to uncover anything at all. All of us still here at EPSO need to break the in-ranks cycle of reporting by taking it outside the agency through the means of having an untrustworthy process for reporting.
“The rising wave of sexual misconduct scandals involving men from Hollywood to Colorado’s halls of power has employers on high alert.”
Taken directly from the article. Wow! “Colorado’s halls of power” mentioned in the same sentence as the highly publicized “men from Hollywood.”
How ironic! All while sexual harassment sweeps the halls at EPSO, with only one of those harrasors being punished to date. And only because he was the only one investigated by HR, who recommend doing something about what was un-covered. Since then, they process has been stopped in order to keep others known harrasors from facing the same fate. Elder never knew his fake wanting of a “transparent” process would uncover so much.
Read this eye-opening article about Colorado’s issues related to the #Me Too movement. If EPSO had smarter leadership, they could have been ahead of this movement by doing what was recommended and firing that Sergeant instead of demoting him, would have kept the process at HR to continue cleaning up the place as employees cake forward, and and would have fired the rest of the harrassing men we still have to see and work around everyday. Our leadership isn’t smart though, many of them are harassers themselves. And so, instead of being trailblazers for the movement; they are now caught in the embarrassment of being one of the th abusers of “Colorado’s halls of power.”
Morning to all the dedicated employees of EPSO, keep your heads up help is on its way. I cannot imagine what its like to work for a man who has tossed integrity out the window for self preservation.
I sure hope he has note or a score card to remember what lies or stories he is telling to different people. I hear an employee, (you know who you are) called Bill and asked him making the comment, calling Mike Angley (and all other DV) fucking cripples. But again Bill mumbles and tells this person ahhh, someone must of misheard something said during a phone call. Are you kidding me. First of all it was not during a phone call, but at the assembly to a retired deputy. He knows perfectly well he made this comment, but its too late to back track the comment, too many people know.
Well lying Bill, why did Carey and Evans try and put together a meet between you and the citizen reference to this comment you made to him. They sure believed you said it, that was the reason for the meeting. Again you lied and said it was just your word against his. Obviously your word means nothing. Next, another Police Chief set up a meeting, this time the meeting last but minutes and the citizen walks out after you deny this comment. So why would another chief set up and attend this meeting with the citizen. Pretty obvious, you are the only one not believed.
So, I hope all the employees you have threatened and mistreated all file EEOC complaints on you and your administration. I think its time for the DOJ to be notified and become involved in your filthy, crooked administration, plus look into all the financial dealing during your administration. Obviously you will not provide any comprehensive financial reports of where money in being spent, so maybe the fed can assist you in this little investigation.
Your time has come, best get a good cardiac doctor, because I think you are being examined closer than you could ever imagine already.
Thanks for this latest tip, you old kool-aid drinker.
The IA’s should be completed soon, so we can see the latest cover ups and creative writing skills of the elder faithful. They must need the job more than a conscious.
Your folks are leaving you like roaches on extermination day, who will be next this week?
Spot on Tax Payer!
Folks, don’t fall for the old school yard trick, “Your shoes untied”. Next thing you know you’re on your butt and everyone is laughing.
This is exactly what your county commissioners or specifically Mark Waller are doing to you. Mr. Waller played on Bill Elders ego and stupidity to get him to turn over his budget to the commissioners. Now Mark can skim funds to make his “Widen I-25” project a go and fool you into thinking he’s a great guy. This is why the commissioners are endorsing Elder. They need a nitwit as sheriff to keep the game going, who better than Elder the predictable fool.
Angley seems to be a problem for the republican old guard. From every commissioner down to Missy Ward. Did you notice that these same people all agreed that no matter how much money the Public Safety Tax brings in they can spend it! You don’t know how or where it’s being spent.
“YOUR SHOES UNTIED”
You’re on your butt and everyone is laughing. Get up and VOTE.
Was is the “cat stuck in the tree” story…or your “great new food truck on Powers” expose’…or was it your way too numerous to mention “EPSO ‘illegal’ marijuana busts” articles that garnered you this prestigious award? Just who actually voted for this award? I’m guessing it was those who have never had their fingers unfortunately ink stained by your “stories.”
Yeah. We’re reading. We noticed. And we WILL vote for Mike Angley this June.
Hey…there’s an idea for an article for you. Just sayin’…
Missy, Thanks! I’m glad you’re still not reading.
Good afternoon, Ms. Ward –
We want to thank you for the grammatical correction…please understand that many of these comments are written under duress by current employees and, in doing so, can be a stressful endeavor given the current “climate” at the EPSO.
In addition…we hope that you’re also considering the actual content of the comments and stories you’re seeing, not just spelling and grammar. These entries have always been (and continue to be) 100% spot on. We hope that you’ll act with integrity, do the responsible thing, and pass them on to your El Paso County GOP sisters and brothers.
Thanks once again for your time spent here.
Interesting…. we all know that Elder has gutted the patrol division to have positions (money) for other things. I felt it would be good to show my friend and neighbors that crime has increased in my area of the county, which it has. The easiest way would be to show them all of the incident on the map at CrimeReports.com, a website that EPSO has uploaded crime stats to for year.
Well…. I should have known. Nothing on CrimeReports.com anymore. Seems the Office has stopped reporting to them. Hiding something?
I know I am late in talking about this, so I apologize. That being said, why is the sheriff not held to a standard of transparency when it comes to the budget? The accountability of his budget has not been shared with the tax payers and I want someone, (i.e. County Commissioners) to answer this question. I would also like to know why $ 1.4 million dollars was removed from the Gateways Through the Rockies (GTR) budget. This was a restricted fund under the old sheriff? I am aware the money was there in January 2015. I was the assistant director and helped prepare the budget for GTR. The money is no longer in their budget.
I use my name in my posts because I will not be intimidated by anyone to include this regime. I worked for the sheriff’s office for just shy of ten years. When the new regime came on board, the lies and deceit that came from the command staff was more than I was willing to accept, so I quit. I could share more but why?
Where are the 1A funds and the GTR funds being used ? I know this is rhetorical question but it should be answered.
It’s NEVER too late to question the lack of “budget transparency” from the Bill Elder administration. In addition to the Gateways’ $$, we need to remember that the budget for Concealed Handguns (also previously “restricted”) was somehow incorporated into the EPSO General Fund in early 2016 with no explanation ever given. Seemingly odd, with all that extra tax-payer 1A money rolling in…
With journalistic integrity all but vanished in this county, it’s up to those who know where the bodies are buried to keep these stories in the public eye.
Nowadays, it would make sense to the the R or D after the names of media outlets, just like politicians such as “Senator John Smith (R) of some state.” We could have “Fox News (R), New York, or KRDO News (D), Colorado Springs.
I just don’t get what kind of favors must be running around here that all of the local media, except the Indy, refuse to talk about Elder’s corruption.
I wonder how the Elders, Huffors, and the rest of his command staff have the gull to call themselves Christians and men of integrity. How can you look at your spiritual leaders and act like everything thing is okay and the allegations on this site are false and miss-interpreted.
The allegations are pretty black and white. How can you look in the mirror, give a speech and know in your heart everything coming out of your mouth is a lie. You are no better than a common criminal. You are one of the worse liars ever, and you know everything written has been vetted, verified, and was obtained from people with real integrity.
Why did you suspend two employees immediately when it became know they were involved in a verbal domestic issue. The only thing you were concerned about all the bad press you would receive from this incident.
Amazingly one of the parties was the daughter of a commander and was the accuser of Huffor in the sexual harassment case you made go away. Reminder: King wrote in his “verbal” counseling you committed a “serious” violation, this tells me it happened as alleged, but you needed to save lil billy. Notice the double standard here, Huffor commits a serious violation, but crooked bill makes it go away.
You tell Pam Zubeck the incidents and quotes that were alleged to have happened at the county assembly were over stated or again, mis-interpreted. Sounds like the standard response of a liar. For once in your life bill, tell the truth before its too late. What about the cover ups involving other supporters involved in being present and supporting the underage drinking of an underage dispatcher in a public restaurant. (Oh, by the way this was the daughter of your Posse Reserve Lt who has an unmarked Tahoe assigned to him.) You forget this since the incident was kept in house and not reported to the DA for investigation or prosecution. You would have to have ethics to do whats right to report this to be investigated, but this would also draw negative attention to your crooked administration.
What about the three deputies in Cascade involved in a physical altercation and no one charged. Again this was kept in house to avoid more publicity so the public would not see what crooked operation you run, and see the real Bill Elder, phony man of god. You claim you are a man of religious scruples, but only in word not in practice. Stay home on Sunday, obviously you are wasting your time and that of the church members you have snowed. I bet after talking to you they need to go home and shower, especially knowing there is something sinister and evil about you.
Amazing King, DeLuca, and Lincoln got memory loss and do not remember the criminal actions involving Huffor. Well this complaint is not over and state authorities are getting notified as you read this. Also, more civil suits are getting ready to be filed.
Bill, you may of been ethics back in the late 70’s, but that is even questionable. Meow, meow. Look in the mirror and be honest, all you see is a tired, old liar who should be ashamed of your decisions, your cover ups, and you have no respect from your troops. They see who you really are and its time you do too.
Its time for you to go, you are the most hated sheriff ever in the history of this county.
Do not forget about the female deputy that was having an inappropriate relationship with an inmate. Video and audio Evidence of this ongoing relationship. She was not criminaly charged w sex assault (as she should have been) and I would dare to bet a PREA violation was not documented. She was able to throw smoke and leave along with her inmate assaultive boyfriend Also with no charges……
I am willing to disclose all I know. I have spoken with others about these funds and other things but i assume it have fallen on deaf ears. I wish there were leaders I could speak with that would take an interest. Maybe the new democrat running for sheriff would like some insight. I will contact her if she ever gets a website. Time will tell. I also concur about the media.
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Well, well, well, after reading the two articles in the CSIndy, it Sounds like this would be a GREAT time for the current sheriff (Elder), to enter into open debate with the challenger(s), there is a Democrat running for the Office of the Sheriff as well as a highly qualified Republican, Veteran, and well educated competitor. Come on Mr. Elder, come talk to us tax paying citizens with the other candidates, and look us in the eye and explain your actions, and what your plans for the future are. Or is your plan to get another four years as a “Lame Duck”, then prop your over paid sidekick to run so he can then in turn take care of Big Bill in his retirement years? You pride yourself on being Transparent in your actions. Maybe now is the time to put your (our) money where your mouth is. And as a disabled Veteran myself, something Bill Elder knows nothing about, you may want to edit your comments about Fing cripples, as we are the ones that Served and Protected the nation while you chose to stay home and serve your own interest.
KKTV – 4/18/18
“Uber sticker seen on law enforcement truck”
“FOUNTAIN, Colo. (KKTV) – Our 11 News crew did a double take when they saw an Uber sticker for the ride-sharing app, on the inside of the windshield on an El Paso County Sheriff’s truck.”
“A picture of the EPSO vehicle (http://media.graytvinc.com/images/810*1080/SHERIFF310.jpg)
was taken at the command center for the 117 Fire. When we asked the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office about it, they were not aware of the sticker on this truck. Sheriff Bill Elder guaranteed 11 News the truck has not been used to give anyone a ride for Uber and says it was meant to be a joke.”
“It is frustrating because everybody is working hard, every vehicle here has been deployed in some way shape or form to the 117 fire. It very much caught me off guard, it caught our administration off guard. But we have corrected it and will take disciplinary action if necessary,” (Jackie) Kirby said.
The sheriff’s office says the sticker is a violation of their policy, so there will probably be an investigation into why it was there.
It’s once again shocking that they “were not aware.” This pattern of being “unaware” of issues as they arise is becoming more than a little troublesome. This is just one more example of the continuous lack of respect for Sheriff Bill Elder. In a time of absolute crisis and terror for so many El Paso County citizens this week, his employees were just playing a little “joke.” Hysterical.
I’m sure that KKTV’s will be following-up regarding the “investigation” and “disciplinary action.”
It is truly a sad day when you realize how bad a place you retired from has gone. You remember the days where people were excited and proud to say they worked at the EPSO. Not any longer, since Elder has become sheriff, it has been nothing but a downhill slide due to his incompetence, lack of moral turpitude, and running an agency he has no ability to lead. He has done nothing but staff the fifth floor with inept, over paid people who are incapable of honest leadership. Elder surrounds himself with yes people to blame bad leadership on everyone but himself.
Wow, Pam Zubeck hit the nail on the head with her information on your son, Huffor. How the hell can you keep giving this punk so many merit and performance raises when he was never qualified to be promoted in the first place. He was disciplined for sexual harassment, he had an accidental discharge of a shotgun shortly after being promoted. But wait you did another policy change to cover this incident. He backed his unit into a post, but did not have to go through the same reporting procedures as any one else would do, because of his entitled status. What about three IA complaints in a one week after the county assembly? Lets look at the lazy commanders and Chief who quickly retired rather that have to do his first supplement report during his career.
I hope the people of this county and all our veteran community are taking note of how you really feel about them. From talking to this group of folks on a daily basis, you have got to know you are the most disrespected, incompetent example of a leader they have ever seen.
Word on the street is you have shielded billy through cover-up’s, policy changes, and controlling the lack of integrity IA section by these investigators and Lt. Some how you have scared the little UCCS police into stalling the complaint investigation on billy, to avoid publicity. There are so many citizens who were at the assembly who don’t know you, and now definitely want nothing to do with you are voting for true leadership and integrity, Mike Angley. They shared their concern about the tension they felt at assembly from the time they walked in until assembly was over due to the thug actions of your leadership folks.
Best get on a regular stress relief program, EPSO staff, looking like you are about to be hit with something you never expected. This time you can do nothing to stop this, you have no influence, and we will see your world totally turned upside down. I hope it was worth it protecting a thug, but “if” you were smart, you would do the right thing. But you are not! So get ready for the sinking of the SS Elder will come and a new day will finally begin in Jan 2018. Hang tough to the dedicated folks still at EPSO, their is a true investigation about to begin and you will need to be more supportive than ever as the leadership will truly have their actions and decisions reviewed like never before. Go buy some Aleve, you will need it.
Wow Elder you were so angry after seeing an UBUR sticker on an office vehicle. It was a joke, but yet you are willing to commit resources to find out who did it. So what if it turns out to be your son Billy, or Janet, or I am just trying to stay under the radar Jacki. Like every other incident, this too will end in a Letter of Counseling. Its your style.
You are a joke, when you receive information of real crimes, all you do is go hide in your office. You choose to ignore the information because you are already getting enough bad publicity.
Whats going to happen with the DV case IA is investigating? Should that not have been reported to the DA for investigation to make the decision on whether to prosecute, or are you an attorney also? What about the underage drinking incident, you did nothing to the supervisor. Oh wait, she got a letter of counseling, sound familiar folks. What about the deputies involved who are paid to enforce CRS, sounds like thugs with a badge. Appears only the underage drinker received a letter of reprimand. The reason this was kept quiet is because she was the daughter of Greg Maxwell, in charge of security at the Broadmoor. As a father and a part-time reserve deputy, should have reported this incident to CSPD or the DA to determine if charges should be pursued. What do you think folks, duty to report sound familiar. Again, not here, a friend of bill’s not wanting bad publicity. Hell, Greg might lose his take home vehicle and he is a civilian reserve. Makes no sense, likes to dress like a cop but will not do real cop work when it gets tough. Turn in all your stuff and be a security guard, that is more your style.
Tom Clements, whats going on here Bill, no guts to pursue the real criminals? If you do not have the ethical drive to do whats right for another law enforcement agency brother. This just proves you are only in this for the money and recognition of the position. Sad to see, but once you are soundly defeated in the primary, best be calling Tom hoping to get your old job back. You are going to be one lonely pathetic individual when you are no longer the sheriff.
Whats going to happen then Bill, when the phone no longer rings, you still going to be calling people asking if we are okay. No, you will be a sad individual with no one taking your calls. Think back, what happened? You could have done some good for the office, but the only way you could keep yes people around and support you was to over pay them, protect them and hope the good employees kept the office operating. Sorry to say even these folks will desert you when you are no longer their meal ticket.
Turn out the lights on your way out, do not look back, because no one is there to wish well. Its SAD!!!
I find this so typical of Elder and his minions. There will be an investigation into the Uber sticker, yet, his God son commits sexual harassment, and things get swept, shoved, driven under the carpet. When will he do something about little Billy? This reminds me of the “influenza ” kid. Sheriff Elder, when, sir will you show yourself to be the Lead law enforcement officer of the county,that your position demands, and stop acting like a “Godfather “?
The talk of the Sheriff’s Office is they are handing out reprimands left and right. Are these for what otherwise would be a teaching moment? What do they have in common? Could they be targeting employees that are NOT supporting Elder for reelection? Could these be strong arm tactics to bring you into submission?
One the other hand, real crimes (DV, Contributing to the deliquencey of a minor, voter intimidation, transmitting sexually explicit photos, etc) are undisciplined, under disciplined, and not prosecuted. What do these have in common? Are they ELDER SUPPORTERS?
So smile and proudly take your “letter of counsel” or “IA”. They are unknowingly handing you evidence.
Can anyone say $$$$class action$$$$.
In case you haven’t noticed, primary season is upon us. In a free society, no big deal but with Elder we all get a taste of what it’s like to live under the rule of an ego maniac. Bill along with his heir apparent Billy are pulling out all the stops to remain in power. The entire staff has been given their term paper project to root out all opposition and Angley collaborators and drive them out.
People are worried about having the ominous “1A” moniker attached to their name on the great roster. The whole gang is on board or as Bill likes to say “Rowing in the same direction”. If you think you can’t trust them now, what makes you think it will be better with another four years of Elder? The same people you don’t trust now will only get more power and become more obnoxious. If Larry Borland finally ops for Medicare perhaps Jackie Kirby will become the next “Civilian Bureau Chief”.
If you don’t want the stress of having “1A” after your name……………..then VOTE to have “SHERIFF” in front of Mike Angley.
I saw at the county assembly how dirty politics really are conducted. You have delegates intimidated, you have a police department afraid to perform their duties they swore to uphold, then you have the head of the Republican Party engaging in secret meetings with the current sheriff and his campaign manager in the sheriff’s office prior to assembly
Amazing, this meeting was observed and the conversations heard discussing strategies and whether or not elder should debate Angley. It sure does help when you have the head of the Republican Party giving advice to one candidate over the other. What happened to being neutral for the integrity of the party. Looks good on paper, but is not practiced it appears. Goes to show the unethical behavior of our own Republican Party Leader and how afraid the Elder campaign is to stoop to this level.
Look it up, Elder supported this person in his failed attempt at office back several years and now he is the head of the party, and returning the favor. Please, does anyone else see a problem with this behavior. If you do please call party headquarters and demand Josh to relinquish his position, he does not deserve to be a leader just like the one he is supporting.
Come on media, call Elder, Janet and Josh out to have a press conference and deny this meeting happened. Better yet, how about all three volunteering to a CVSA test to prove it did not happen.
Denver Post – 5/7/15
“(Josh) Hosler emphasized that he intends to garner a diversity of support from across the Republican spectrum as well as the other side of the aisle.” In his news release, Hosler billed himself as a “father, an entrepreneur, a former Marine, and a lifelong conservative.”
“My job isn’t to needlessly burn bridges and shut people down who don’t look and act just like me, but rather work tirelessly to earn your trust as a neighbor and someone who wants to fight together to preserve both our freedoms and our constitutional rights,” Holser explained.
CS Independent – 9/20/17
“I am focused and I have a vision that will lead us to victory. As a Marine, you are taught to never ever give up on the mission. I will bring this same commitment to my position as the El Paso County Republican Chair.”
My Lanta, Josh…how times have changed. It looks like that “Republican spectrum” and that desire to “fight together” only matters when it pertains to the current Colorado Springs GOP swamp your protecting. Just what exactly is that “mission” and “commitment” now, Josh? Covering for your current GOP elite’s harassment at the assembly? Or was it your “secret” meeting that day?? FYI, Josh…you might want to whisper next time…yeah, we heard.
And a former Marine as well? Those of us with integrity thank you for your service.
Or, as the Sheriff you’re attempting to defend would say, “thanks, cripple.”
In defense of Sheriff Elder, we do not have the right to judge his Christianity. However, what does the Bible say about how we will know each other. How do people looking in tell the difference between “Church Going” and “Christian Living”. God has given us markers that all Christians should exhibit.
In Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Sprit is
SELF-CONTROL. against such things there is no law.
It is easy to show and apply these traits to our friends, family, and supporters. We are called to exhibit/apply these to our enemies or in the current environment perceived enemies.
But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.
It has come to our attention (leaking?) that you will be persecuting line level Deputies again in the weeks to come. Additionally, these are Deputies that support Mike Angley or that you have not received open support from them.
Sir, how do you want to be known. What do you want you legacy to look like. It is Gods job to judge your heart. It is our job to recognize the attributes of good or bad.
After long deliberation and keeping to a nautical theme, I have finally found a suitable comparison to the Elder regime that everyone can relate to. I’m guessing most of you are familiar with the 60’s sitcom “Gilligan’s Island”. The storyline captured a group of characters marooned on an island due to the incompetence of their leaders, a bumbling skipper and his dimwit first mate. Sorry if this hits a little close to home but stay with me for a moment.
First, let us rework the cast to fit our situation,
Bill Elder: The bumbling captain who had never owned so much as a rowboat but has decided to take unsuspecting passengers on an ocean voyage prior to a pending storm aboard his new vessel.
Billy Huffor: The dimwit first mate who is in over his head, promoted beyond his skill and screws up every chance of rescue with his mouth or by over reacting to the situation because of his arrogance.
Janet Huffor: The cruise director who’s job it is to make the passengers believe they’re having a good time when they’re not. She like her husband is in over her head as her previous job was “Ball caller” at Thursday night Bingo.
Joe Breister: Assistant captain who has never appeared in a single episode after missing the boat when it departed the dock in season one.
Jackie Kirby: Communications Director who failed to summon help on the ships radio because she didn’t know how to spell S.O.S. She’s still baffled by that daily wardrobe question “This outfit looked great when I was 16, what happened”. Can you zip me? No hun, not with vise grips!
Rob King & Tom DeLuca: the engine room crew. When sea water burst through the hull of the ship, they thought the hot tub was ready and stripped.
The voyage started out promising but seems to have flopped after several key cast members left the show after only a few seasons. Apparently most of the brain trust left with them.
There have also been some notable guest appearances such as:
Brian McPike: in an art imitates life role, Brian played a law enforcement gypsy who can’t hold down a job for more than a few months. He has since taken his skirt chasing habit to of all places “Focus on the Family”.
Wendy Habert: dropped in with her reoccurring performance as an overbearing shrew trapped in a wind tunnel of blowing cash snatching up greenbacks like a monkey on a cupcake.
Chuck Kull: who played Gilligan in the pilot, returned to play an amnesia victim forced to take the witness stand in a flashback sequence involving Bumbling Bills old court martial records.
To date, there have only been enough episodes written to produce the show for four seasons. Whether or not the show will be picked up for another four years is completely up to the passengers.
In this seasons final episode, a rescue ship appears on the horizon, this ships captain challenges Bumbling Captain Bill to a debate with the fate of the passengers at stake.
That was NOT appropriate! I was eating grapes and almost choked on one of them when I burst out laughing. I could have been seriously hurt or even killed!
This effort to secure another four years is a new low for Sheriff Elder. This is lower than his attempt at damage control at the Sertoma Gun Show a couple weeks ago. I only attended one day (Saturday) and I was there early in the morning, but I noticed that Elder had a booth at the show. As I got closer to the booth, I saw a young man with a mobility walker wearing a Re-Elect Elder T-shirt. It seemed that Elder was trying to backpedal from his previous comments about “f-ing cripples” by putting an individual who suffered from a disability on display at his re-election booth. The man has no shame. He is even taking credit for getting Micah Flick’s family 2/3rds of his salary for life…..that is not anything that he did. That is Colorado’s Worker’s Compensation….anyone who dies while working is eligible for that benefit. It wasn’t his work to get that, but he and his staff are sure taking credit for it.
He has no honor, no dignity and no shame. For the sake of the county and more importantly, the sake of those that work under him, Elder and his hoard need to go.
the performance by a public official of an act that is legally unjustified, harmful, or contrary to law; wrongdoing (used especially of an act in violation of a public trust).
Given the sexual harassment lawsuits , discrimination lawsuits , voter intimidation, and lost ACLU lawsuit, it’s clear that Elder doesn’t know the law or thinks he is above the law.
VOTE. GO ANGLEY!
Here are my Top 10 predictions for primary season:
1. “Mount Rushmore of Incompetence” Bill Elder, Pete Carey, Janet Huffor and Larry Borland pose for a campaign ad photo. Bill decides to use it as the cover on his new EPSO employee newsletter renamed, “ARE WE GOOD”.
2. “I’m your Hometown Sheriff” With the help of fraudulent extradition papers, Bill flies in his children, grandchildren, high school classmates, three ex-wives, and his bankruptcy attorney, all to bolster the Hometown guy campaign image.
Advantage: Frontier Airlines
3. “Coronation of the Yapping Toy Poodle” Very soon the vacancy created by the departure of Mitch Lincoln (See #5), will be filled. This means a commander slot will become available. The other vacancy in Bill Elders groin will no doubt lead to the coronation of Billy the Yapping Toy Poodle. Billy will take to the T.V. evicting homeless camps along the river and raiding pot grows in Peyton. While raiding a suspected Dog Kennel, Billy accidently discharges his shotgun into his patrol vehicle. Bill Elder immediately signs a new policy to have sunroofs installed in all patrol vehicles.
Advantage: The viewing public hungry for entertainment
4. “Tiny Tim meets Ted Kennedy” Joy Elder, realizing her sugar daddy’s paycheck is in danger will need to produce another heartstring calamity to bring in votes. A neck brace would do nicely, it goes with most spring and summer outfits and doesn’t require a limp.
5. “Sorry I have an appointment” As public sentiment for Bills abusive treatment of employees grows along with lawsuits, county commissioners will begin to distance themselves. Prior to midnight on election day, Mark Waller will delete Bill from his county phone. Members of the command staff will drop retirement papers to spend more time with the families.
Advantage: EPSO Employees
6. “Step aside B%#tch 2” As Bills backside becomes watertight with worry, he’ll make the call. Wendy will once again take the Con of Starship Elder. Janet “Hayseed” Huffor will take her place on the bench. Wendy will convince Bill that Larry’s job would look great with her in it, she’ll give Otis the go ahead to start the next addition on the house.
Advantage: Home Depot
7. “UBERGATE” After weeks of lengthy investigation completed with newly found overtime money, evidence will surface that Larry Borland ordered a county vehicle to be used as a taxi service for profit to shuttle people to Elder campaign events. Dan May will determine that no crime was committed, no laws broken and no ordinances violated. Nothing to see here. The local media will ignore the story.
8. “Public speaking blunders” Bill can’t stay away from news cameras. He’s hoping this is free campaign coverage and it would be if not for his inability to speak publically. Take the recent press conference at the 117 fire when Bill got the helpline phone number wrong. Here’s a clue Bill, if the last four numbers are identical like say 8888, then you need only rehearse the first three! Maybe you should’ve put Janet in a Smokey Bear costume so she’d have been close enough for you to read the cards.
9. “No Public Debate” The mere mention of the word debate sends pee dribbling down Bills leg. Perhaps having to explain yourself all alone before the voters is just to big a mountain for Bill to move. He would have to answer all those nagging questions about 287g, the public safety tax, transparency, and how keeping his command staff from committing sexual harassment against his female employees has proven to be as difficult as toilet training chickens.
10. “I like Mike” As storm clouds form over the Elder camp, his staff not eligible for retirement will form up in pairs and begin the migration toward the Angley Ark. As the rain comes they will ask, ARE WE GOOD?
Its pretty amazing elder has not been able to fully staff the patrol division or detentions with his budget and 1A funding. The dedicated Sergeants, deputies and civilians have been working their tails off short handed and what does bill do, another campaign favor. Now he has hired the wife of another commander and two other folks to respond to calls for service needing a mental health person in the field. Bet this will be another husband and wife team making almost $200,000 a year. Anyone see an issue here, the working people get screwed again. I thought this was why all deputies had completed CIT training, to be able to de-escalate these situations in the field or jail setting,
Just another bill bad decision, wasting tax payer money to payoff another campaign donation.
I wonder how lil billy got all three IA investigations and a criminal complaint all closed. Sounds like the commanders and Lt’s who witnessed the incidents lied!!! What a bunch of cowards and liars, this is what it means to this office. You can lie and its okay when it comes to Elder’s “boy” billy. Cover and protect at all costs.
I hear you made this statement in a training class in front of what 25-35 sworn deputies. You can get your staff people to lie and cover for you bill, but the honest ethical folks sitting in the room listening to you make threatening statements will come out. Can you deny with this many witnesses you never make the statements, “You fuck will Joy or my boy billy I will put a bullet in you head? Also what about the statement lets step out back and settle this like men.”
Wow, does this sound like a rational human being, a man who is supposed to uphold the law and be an example of a leader. I think with statements like this the commissioners and local law enforcement should be concerned about your mental stability to carry a badge and especially a gun.
As a citizen, I am concerned these statements were ever made by the sheriff and this is the first we are hearing about another of your unprofessional tirades. I for one am appalled, and fear for the safety of members of this office and the public. You are truly the poster boy of thug with a badge.
Just as an aside –
Was it truly necessary for Sheriff Elder to announce his “guess” as to the cause of the 117 fire in front of deceased Deputy Flick’s badge???
Never let a crisis go to waste, right Bill?
How do you look at yourself in the mirror? Amazing…
I am yet another concerned citizen. If the alleged comments are true, I would think this is an example of workplace violence.
On a lighter note, some of the writers on this blog are unbelievably talented and funny!!! It is pretty sad when I find myself tuning in for the latest episode in this sitcom for the sheer entertainment value.
And Elder on the news for ANOTHER pot grow bust in Peyton…. Elder, this is a little too little, a little too late. If there were an increased law enforcement presence in Peyton, there may be fewer busts! You are using these busts for your campaign promotion; however, the thinking citizen must ask the question how are these grows thriving? Maybe the word is out that this part of the county is “easy”….hhhmmmm I will not be voting for you. A changing of the guard is in order….
Jeff Schulz has been tracking these grows for years. His list was over 200 three years ago. Isn’t it interesting that Elder doesn’t do squat about them until after the County GOP Assembly where another candidate made it onto the ballot and now, all in a sudden, these grows are a big priority “like I promised” and the result is plenty of television face time.
Speaking of television face time –
It’s curious that when you search “El Paso County Sheriff” on KRDO’s website, this entry is what’s shown initially…
Why is this even on KRDO’s website? (Check it out for yourself)
I had no idea that “despacito” was Spanish for “trainwreck”
“KRDO…where the “news” comes first”
(Or shortly thereafter the poorly made EPSO Facebook video from July ’17)
With the investigations closed, lying witnesses (Command Staff), and UCCS Police not doing their job, my word for the week is:
secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.
An incredible reminder (which I’m sure was hopefully forgotten) of the GOP “deep state” and “swap” here in El Paso County (from the CS Independent 10/16/03). This is what we’re what against, folks. Look at the names. Look at the corruption. Thank you “Mike Love” for your comment dated 4/28/17.
The Holly Williams story
By Cara DeGette
“The title of this column sounds just like a Lifetime original, and in many ways the drama does resemble a made-for-TV movie complete with nepotism, power plays and backstabbing. In a news story on page 17 this week, reporter Terje Langeland chronicles a recent audit of the El Paso County public trustee’s office, headed by Holly Williams. The audit is not good; among other things it indicates that under Williams’ watch, the office has been an open invitation for embezzlement and theft of funds. Williams insists that steps have been taken to correct the problems, but when you consider all of the players in the drama, the problems run far deeper than an office audit. As the public trustee, Williams oversees a 16-person office that processes nearly $2 million in fees related to foreclosures and property purchased in El Paso County. Colorado Gov. Bill Owens appointed Williams, a Republican operative, close supporter and former piano teacher who has no formal accounting training, to the $48,500 job in 1999. Williams is married to attorney Wayne Williams, a past chairman of the local Republican Party who, like his wife, co-chaired the Owens for governor re-election efforts last year. Last November Williams was elected to the five-member Board of County Commissioners. The year before that, his wife hired him to do about $1,000 worth of legal work for the trustee’s office. The county currently has no ethics policy that would prohibit such conflicts of interest, so technically Holly Williams broke no rules by paying public money to her husband. But “technically” hasn’t always cut it when it comes to the public’s trust. In the past, our government leaders have been positively conservative over the notion that even a whiff of a perception of a conflict was enough to make them steer clear. You don’t hire your husband; you don’t hire your pals. Apparently those days are gone. As trustee, Holly Williams has also hired local attorney Bob Gardner to do legal work for the public trustee’s office. The two –Williams and Gardner — are also currently co-chairing the political campaign to get Republican Dan May elected as El Paso County’s new district attorney next year. This is where it gets interesting. Gardner, it should be noted, was also the chairman of the local Republican Party from 1995 to 1997. In fact, he used to consider the Williams’ camp enemy territory. While Gardner was in charge, Wayne Williams insinuated that Gardner and Gardner’s good friend Sarah Jack — then the party’s treasurer — were skimming the books. Gardner told Williams if he didn’t like the way things were being handled at local GOP headquarters, he should run for chairman himself. Gardner subsequently did not seek a second term, and was replaced — and not too happily — by his then-foe Williams. But apparently everyone has kissed and made up. And speaking of Jack, this Republican small-government activist is currently spearheading efforts to get voters to approve a county tax measure next month to benefit The Resource Exchange, which provides services to the developmentally disabled.
Which brings us to County Commissioner Jim Bensberg, also a Republican who, like Wayne Williams, was elected to the Board of County Commissioners last year. A few months ago Williams blindsided Bensberg when he secretly secured support from the other three county commissioners to place Jack’s tax proposal to benefit The Resource Exchange before the voters on this November’s ballot. So, when Bensberg cast the sole vote against the proposal, he came off as a bit player, the evil villain who hates the developmentally disabled.
Bensberg was incensed. He also just happens to be the county commissioners’ liaison to the public trustee’s office, headed by Holly Williams, who, let’s not forget, is the wife of the nemesis who outmaneuvered him. Within days after Bensberg cast his anti-disabled vote, somehow — we just can’t fathom how — the city’s daily newspaper was alerted to an unflattering audit of the public trustee’s office. On Aug. 31, the Gazette published a front-page story quoting Bensberg as saying the public trustee’s office, run by Holly Williams, is clearly being mismanaged.
If all this insider wheeling and dealing leaves you feeling a bit queasy, that’s just too bad. This is show business, folks. It’s how the game is played, here in our very own “Holly”wood.”
This was almost 15 YEARS AGO!! And that last paragraph speaks volumes. The citizens of El Paso County actually have a choice this June. And it’s an easy choice to make.
Mike Angley for El Paso County Sheriff.
Good Morning Colorado Springs,
As has become a norm, lets enjoy our coffee and see what lies Elder is speaking this week.
KRDO had all three candidates on Friday, 4/27/18 talking about the primary in June. Elder continues to say he his ENTIRE career has been devoted to law enforcement. Fact check: NO, you left the sheriff’s office after you were pulled from VNI, questionable there, resigned and pulled out all your retirement money. Why would a career law enforcement officer risk not leaving this in place or immediately put this into a 401 or Roth? No he is not a smart man spends all of this and then files bankruptcy.
Now comes the lie, next he goes on to be a real estate agent. Again, not very successful at this endeavor or he would have a massive portfolio of rentals and properties that could be converted into retirement income. But no, again retirement in place. So what the hell was he doing during this time period that he remained in law enforcement. The home town boy is lying about his background and experience.
Next he brags about running the largest sheriff’s office and jail in the state. That is all fine and good if you would staff patrol and the jail with enough sworn personnel to make both sections efficient and SAFE! The only section safe and over staffed is the fifth floor with all the over paid, under qualified, and providing nothing to the citizens, but big paydays to your special people who are all paying to stay.
You talked about signing a contract for the SUPER TANKER to fight wild fires. At the cost of just one hour of flight, not to mention the material to be dropped, is so high, you could hire a fleet of single winged air craft to do this same mission. Now here is the kicker, word is you are going around saying you do not want to be the fire warden because its too much responsibility plus you are not qualified. Sorry charlie, you are it by default and statue. Put on the big boy panties and march on or resign.
You like to make investigations go away and cover up involving special people in your criminal enterprise. You are nothing more than a coward and an enabler to keep the people you have around you. Your lies and cover up’s are going to be exposed soon by people who you have no control over and cannot lie to. Be sure to put on your morning Depends because shit will be flying soon. Hope you can handle the pressure and I hope it was worth shielding your son, billy and all the other liars in your administration.
“Alleged intimidation cases by Sheriff’s Office scrapped”
CS Independent – 5/2/18
How can ANYONE take seriously ANY internal investigation headed by Professional Standards “staff” Lt. Michael St. Charles (chosen by Elder as his “Sergeant at Arms” at the 2018 GOP Assembly) and Ken Hilte (Elder assembly delegate and $1000 donator to Elder’s 2018 re-election campaign)
I ask you…voters in El Paso County…do they think we’re ALL idiots??
Obviously they do.
Elder did leave the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office under questionable circumstances. There are two categories of people who support Bill Elder 1) those who don’t know the truth about him or 2) those who don’t believe it is important for a law enforcement officer be professional and of good character. Given these two categories, one must wonder about the ex-VNI cops (narcs) who worked with Elder in his relatively short stay at the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office. Ask yourself, why does a man who claims to have such a passion for law enforcement leave law enforcement. The second question one must ask, what about those that know the truth and are supporting Elder anyway. Is there a good old boy network? Are they somehow benefiting from their old association with him? Maybe the site needs to be renamed “dirtycops.com” If you are in the category of supporter who does not really know the history of Bill Elder, you may want to reconsider your support and your endorsement. You are casting your own integrity into a very dark shadow.
So, the Democrat in the race, Grace Sweeney-Maurer showed up for the Eastern Plains Chamber of Commerce Forum along with Mike Angley.
But no sign of Elder? Apparently, Grace has bigger “Elderberries” than Elder.
It seems the comment made by Elder referring to Disabled Vets is sending a lot of support to the other candidate. I am hearing he has had to already re-order another batch of Disabled Veterans Supporting Mike Angley bumper stickers. Just keep running the mouth, between you and your son Billy you guys tend to offend a different group each week.
I ran into another senior deputy who left the office due to no longer being treated as a valued employee even though he had vast specialized experience and expertise that will hard to replace. But what do you care as long as your yes folks stay standing and supporting your unethical behaviors. You have an Internal Affairs unit who could not see a crime even when handed to them. They could walked into a room with an see a man on the floor with a bullet wound and another man holding a smoking hot gun and ask what happened? This is incompetence in leadership as well as in the abilities and integrity of the investigators.
Its amazing all the departures and retirements are coming from the working folks and not your over paid under qualified staff. How about it bill, what is the attrition rate from Lieutenant’s and above? I would guess at that level very low due to them being over paid, and gaining sick/vacation time at a faster rate than the rest of the office.
How about it bill, you hear karma coming, oh yes its headed your way. Statements you have made are coming to bite you in the ass and show you for who you really are. You have a lot of people convinced with all the structured speeches written for you, but when you stand alone they will see the danger you are to those who oppose you. The threats and intimidation have not gone unnoticed and you “WILL” have to answer for them.
When you are gone and no longer in authority, who will still be by your side? How does it feel to be alone, no retirement, working till your 80’s just to get some form of retirement, and no one to share your pain with?
Now this one was WAY too easy….talk about the ULTIMATE “softball”
The Gazette – 5/3/18 (pm)
“El Paso County Sheriff Bill Elder was recognized Thursday as the National Alliance on Mental Illness in Colorado Springs’ advocate of the year – one of the organization’s three annual awards.”
Wait for it…wait for it…
Interesting that The Gazette’s website actually stopped posting this article as of 5/4/18 (am). Perhaps some eyes are actually opening in this county. We can only hope…and we also hope that some journalistic integrity is finally starting to appear.
“How about it bill, what is the attrition rate from Lieutenant’s and above? I would guess at that level very low due to them being over paid, and gaining sick/vacation time at a faster rate than the rest of the office.”
Please take note that the Office has 17 Lieutenants and more than half who held that rank when Elder took Office have left.
No policies were broken at the Republican Assembly according to the Professional Standards Section? Of course not, the investigation or lack there of was conducted by Ken Hilte who donated $1,000 dollars to Elders campaign and was himself a delegate for Ol’ Bill at the assembly. Then the investigation is overseen by Lt. Mike St. Charles who was one of the Sergeant’s at Arms for the assembly and more likely than not another delegate for Ol’ Bill.
NO CORRUPTION HERE!
This is like having Frank James investigate a train robbery by Jesse James.
I see all of a sudden Elder is want to be seen in the same pictures with Northam. Why is this just happening now. What is really crappy is the fact the only way Northam will make Chief is if Elder in a desperate move will promote him before the primary to have the appearance of having a minority in a staff position. Really people are you going to fall for this, we all know how Elder described him in one of his speeches and it was not very flattering to Northam. Are you sure this event was not recorded? Wink Wink
So if the promotion is done after the primary it will be King, the man with the biggest IA file in the history of the office. You getting the big picture here folks, do you really want Elder antics for another four years. I for one do not!!
Elder is seen today in a photo of him and Northam accepting an award from NAMI. Really, you actually have the gull to accept an award from an organization that is dedicated to folks with mental health issues. Do they know how you would describe folks with physical or mental issues as cripples. Wow, I feel bad for NAMI, because they provide a great service, and you, Elder are such a deceiver.
Of course, the crack Professional Standards unit made a determination that there was no violations of policy or law in the assembly. Was there ever a doubt? Or, should the question be was there ever a chance that anyone, especially Billy Huffor, would be held accountable for their actions at the assembly? So, “Inspector” Hilte and Lt. St. Charles conducted the investigation, huh? Inspector Hilte, formerly Chief Hilte of the Pike’s Peak Community College Police Department….why did you leave PPCC? Why did you come back as an Inspector instead of as a Commander? Didn’t you lose your certification as a Peace Officer? Lt. St. Charles…..remember, his name is on the future commander list , so of course, there would be a finding favorable to the staff. Wouldn’t want the truth to come out now.
Bill Elder always talked of turning the ship and getting everyone to row together… like galley slaves. Well, the ship is heading for an iceberg now, Captain Elder, thanks to your stellar leadership. You spoke so loudly about character, yet your actions and those of your disciples show that you have no character and no honor. Had you any of those qualities, this website would not exist. You did this to yourself…..congratulations.
Now it looks like Mr. Untouchable has done it again, This time he will not be able to do double talk, denial of his actions, its your word against mine, hey are we okay. You have over stepped the thin blue line where there is no coming back from. You are on camera committing a violation of the Hatch Act on so many different venues during this election process. Your campaign manager should have know campaigning in uniform was a violation of the Hatch Act. But wait, she has had very minimal experience in this area, and is only interested in another four years of overpaid compensation for nothing more than loyalty to a failed administration.
Ty Martin in Fremont county saw he had violated the Hatch Act and withdrew from the sheriff race or face suit. Honorable man knowing he was wrong and did the right thing. Thanks to the Daily Record, small local newspaper in Canon City, they published this story. How about it Gazette, you going to report the Fremont story or are you still shielding old Bill from bad press because he too violated the Hatch Act.
Understand the consequences here, anyone failing to take the appropriate actions are just as guilty of collusion for protecting Elder, even when faced with overwhelming evidence.
Commissioners, citizens, media, how long will you support Elder before your names start coming out as supporters of his corrupt office? Here is a little something to read and ask yourself, will I continue to support this illegal behavior or call for his resignation?
The Hatch Act, passed by Congress in 1939, prohibits federal employees from engaging in various partisan political activities. The law also extends to local governmental employees whose positions are funded by the federal government, according to the Colorado Secretary of State’s Office.
As part of the law, according to the state of Colorado’s human resources department, local employees are not allowed to “engage in political activity while wearing an official uniform,” among other rules intended to prevent officials from campaigning on the job.
How many times has Elder been out campaigning “in uniform,” making speeches, passing out donation envelopes and seeking support of various organizations. Lots of honest citizens were present observed you committing these violations first hand. So folks, are you still supporting this deceptive individual or will you be calling on the Secretary of State to do the right thing demanding they launch an investigation into violations of the Hatch Act by Elder. I will be calling, because integrity comes before loyalty. Failing to act on these violations is no more than supporting criminal behavior.
So Bill, what you going to do when they come for you?
Bad boys bad boys!!
While I agree with the spirit of what you’re saying here – and I don’t support Elder – the difference here is that technically and legally the Sheriff is not considered an employee – he is an elected official. I know I’m splitting hairs here, but it is a legal difference that needs to be understood because it may mean he is still on the correct side of the line regarding the Hatch Act.
Remember there was that big to-do when it came out that the Sheriff wasn’t technically considered to be bound by the policies and procedures of the the Sheriff Office (This was under Makita). It wasn’t because he had specifically exempted himself – it was because the policy and procedure manual was written as applying to employees – and the Sheriff is not considered an employee.
So even if you file the complaint – don’t be surprised if nothing comes from it – It’s not necessarily because the corruption goes that high – but because it technically may not be be a violation.
Bill Elder “RESIGN”, stop this ridiculous Kabuki Theater you call your administration. We are tired of your endless antics, lies and downright stupid decisions, they are a reflection on all of us. The public see’s us as one single entity and the face or actions they see most often are yours. You’re making us all look like fools.
This non-stop parade of cameo appearances on the evening news is embarrassing. A true leader let’s those who did the work get the credit, right now the public is aware of three employee’s, YOU, Jackie Kirby and Billy Huffor. All of you suffer from situational ethics.
To continue this folly for another four years serves only you and your need for a retirement not the citizens of El Paso County. Letting a once proud organization self destruct due to your inability to manage your life and finances is a selfish act by a limited mind.
Your primary effort beyond yourself is to create a kingdom for your adopted children, Billy & Janet Huffor. Your so called kingdom has been eroding since you took office, another four years will finish what remains. Whether you get a second term or not, you have ruined any future for the Huffor’s more than their own arrogance could have.
For you to step aside would show that you recognize whats best for the community and show humility. To continue is nothing but selfish pride.
You took an oath when you took the job, you gave your word to the highest authority. In the end you’ll stand as an audience of one before that authority,
What shall it be, Smoking or Non-Smoking?
Word for the week: LAW-LESS-NESS
a state of disorder due to a disregard of the law
This Saturday my wife and I enjoyed some time with friends for BBQ and brews. The talk turned not to the SO but to the DA’s office where one of my buddies wife works. Joy Elder has moved up in position and it’s clear to everyone that it’s because Bill’s her husband and not for her qualifications. Her attitude toward everyone else has people trying to avoid her. I thought it was bad at the SO but now it’s growing legs into other parts of the county. Bill and Joy don’t have a very high opinion of Lisa Kirkman either according to the gossip at the DA’s office.
Watch your backs everybody!
Danger Alert, be careful Anon, there is still a deranged man in charge at the Office. Just a reminder of the statement he made at an annual training class last year.
No misunderstanding of his words, misinterpretation what was said, or its your word against mine. Old Bill stated,” if you mess with my wife Joy or my boy Billy I will put a bullet in your head. He also stated in this same venue if you have a problem we can go outside and settle this like men. Does this sound like a sane competent leader of the office. This was his departing statement, he shakes hands with his son Billy and tells him screw them and walks out. Wow what a class act. These are your employees and you say screw them.
Remember there were 30 plus other employees in the room that heard these statements from your mouth bill, another misunderstanding. Now the Hatch Act violation coming, the federal lawsuit on the horizon, and several other suits in the wings.
The corrupting and intimidation has got to stop, and the people with rise and vote for Angley so you and your cronies can just go away. You have harmed this office enough, just go leave and take out the rest of your unqualified staff.
Okay…voters in El Paso County…it’s time to scream “uncle”
KRDO/News 13 – 5/8/17 (Where the “news” comes first”) Congratulations on the incredible (and informative) double re-election infomercial you aired yesterday for the incumbent Sheriff Elder. Close to 10 minutes on the following:
1) “El Paso County deputies will soon have co-responders on mental health calls”
“You’ve got a therapist that will rush in there with you and hopefully give you a way to deal with and de-escalate and to get some help to people that are in crisis,” Elder said. “I’m not sure that a therapist would have been any different anyway. It’s hard to second-guess that, (referring to the Douglas County deputy shooting)” Elder said.
Interesting…who will be in command of that? More to come…later.
2) “How the original 99-plant law grew Colorado’s marijuana black market” – 5/8/17 (Where honestly…the “news” really does come first…we promise)
“Great idea in theory,” El Paso County Sheriff Bill Elder said. “However, there were enough loopholes in it that people began to grow 99 plants and then they discovered they could ship those off.” Elder said it’s organized crime (Wow!! – isn’t that the EXACT SAME argument your opponent, Retired Colonel Mike Angley, has been making for months??) that was able to take advantage, allowing growing operations to get as large as more than 500 plants.
“Deputy Jeff Schulz (not to be confused with the Deputy Jeff Schulz that, as an EPSO Academy Training Instructor, had an affair (allegedly) with a EPSO recruit only to convince her to lie to Internal Affairs – in which she was ultimately terminated) with the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office said marijuana grown in Colorado will go for three times as much on the east coast as it will here.”
“We’re seeing more heroin, more cocaine, more methamphetamine using those same traditional routes they were using with marijuana,” Elder said.
Honestly, Elder…just where were all these “enlightenments” three years ago? Or is this just an campaign scam??
At least the CS Independent had the initiative to report the names actually involved in this “Mental Health” boondoggle.”
“El Paso County Sheriff’s Office adopts program to identify mental health issues” 5/8/18
“… Lt. J.D. Ross (widely known throughout the EPSO as a serial sexual harasser/frequent IA issue and quite possibly the laziest POS in the Office), who’s also working on the program, said the department received about 1,600 calls in 2017 that were mental health related.”
“Stephanie Gangemi, (what’s she making, Bill?) a licensed clinical social worker, has been hired to provide ride-along services when calls warrant her presence.”
Hmmm…isn’t she the wife of current EPSO Commander Rodney Gehrett (who’s done nothing but bitch about Elder’s leadership since day 1)? And didn’t she resign without notice from the jail’s medical unit last year?? And haven’t both given their endorsements to Bill Elder???
ENDORSEMENTS FROM “CAMPAIGN TO RE-ELECT SHERIFF BILL ELDER”
“Endorsements by Community Leaders”
STEPHANIE GANGEMI, LCSW: CORRECTIONAL MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL
“It is with respect and appreciation that I endorse Sheriff Elder for re-election. I have worked as a correctional mental health professional and leader for nearly ten years and in that time, never experienced more support for addressing issues related to law enforcement and people with mental illness than under Sheriff Elder. Sheriff Elder has supported initiatives to include expanding Mental Health First Aid, Suicide Prevention and Crisis Intervention Training for deputies. He has also empowered deputies with the unique interest and skill in helping criminal-justice-involved people with mental illness, through building community partnerships with Aspen Pointe, NAMI, DHS and Mental Health contract employees at the jail. At a time when there is a national crisis of law enforcement interfacing with people with serious mental illness, Sheriff Elder is our County’s best resource for supporting education, collaboration and effective interventions for our community’s most vulnerable.”
Stephanie Gangemi, LCSW
Rodney Gehrett– “Sheriff Elder has a clear understanding of the complex issues facing our community. He has fostered positive working relationships with other law enforcement agencies, elected leaders, members of the judiciary, and numerous community organizations to identify common sense solutions to the difficult problems impacting our quality of life. This is not the time for a candidate that has never worked in law enforcement, is not POST certified, and will require extensive OJT to learn what it means to be a sheriff. Bill Elder Is a proven leader and has the experience required to lead the Office into the future. He has my full support and my vote!”
If that isn’t “pay to play” then we don’t know what is……
And to KRDO management – please be sure to give the citizens of El Paso County a “heads-up” when Bill Elder will actually be anchoring your newscast. Just make sure he has a script.
Too bad they don’t offer the same mental health services for their own employees. I know one who had a mental breakdown and not a single person from the Office reached out to see if they were ok. Does that sound professional
Seriously, what a great blog!
It brings to light so many facts and typical actions by Elder and crew. I too read the article in the Independent and was disgusted. Your blog also points out why Mr. Angley does not disclose his full plan to fix the office, Elder would simply steal it, start it, and claim it for his own. KRDO would no doubt be on hand to herald his genius.
Should Elder prevail we will see him quickly forget any campaign issues and return to the drunken sailor mode. The public safety tax will fail and he will lament that the voters let us down and none of this was his fault. It would also be interesting to see how KRDO would treat him then. Expect to see more nepotism in promotions and hiring and no change in the current situation.
Any hope that current staff members would somehow remember their integrity has passed, they have all stood by and watched. The fact that we are now touting the significance of J.D. Ross and company speaks volumes. My personal favorite is the Gehrett family, unbelievable.
It appears there is some question about who will be the next bureau chief. Lets call it like we see it here Bill. Word has it King has submitted his letter to retire but no date has been released. This should have happened years ago. Retire before another harassment or retaliation case is filed.
So, why is it there are still no female commanders. You have a couple with extensive experience and qualifications, but right you never wanted any strong female on your entitled administration. I know at one meeting you were asked about why you did not have any minorities? You response, well, ahh, the next bureau chief will be Cliff Northam, and he is a smart black man. Really, that is how you describe him. Of course you are horrible at answering questions on the fly with no note cards to keep you on track. Lots of people heard this and were shocked. What are you going to say to Clif net time you run into him at another photo opp of convenience. Hey Clif you know I did not say that, its their word against mine, it was misunderstood. Rights, continue to lie bill.
Lincoln has been gone for about a month, why no promotion. We know, more smoke to hide your real intentions. You think if you win the primary you once again will have another pay for play promotion. King will be chief and Huffor will take his place.
On my god two (POS) in the same building and no protection for female staff. All that would be needed next would be for Ross to come back to CJC. This is a plan for disaster. Keep watch people this is game Elder is playing. He says one thing today and rewards campaign supporters the next. What next, Wendy Habert coming back next just like Garret’s wife. Hell this summer there will be no employee picnic, it will be more like a family reunion.
This cannot happen, its time to drain this swamp of all the unqualified, over paid staff with sights to continue the destruction of the office. In four more years there will be a 100% turnover rate because good people will only tolerate so much. Ballots are coming soon, so be ready to vote your conscious with no crooks looking over your shoulders.
So much for the Hatch Act. Elder was at the annual Hundred Club dinner last night. He couldn’t hardly open his big mouth at all without having to mention to anyone within earshot the he is running for re-election, and all while wearing his EPSO polo shirt with embroidered badge.
What a disgraceful sheriff Elder has turned out to be. He has an Internal Affairs section that he dictates the outcome of cases before investigations are completed. It used to be follow the evidence and see where it leads, well all of it leads to Elder and he determines what happens by who the allegations are made against.
How many special people have been stopped for DUI under this administration and have skated. What about the deputy who was drinking at Fuzzy’s Taco and left after imbibing too long. I am sure he was not drinking alone, probably other deputies with him. First problem is he was drinking to excess, wearing a gun concealed, and had his credential with him. Plus, why did the people he was with allow him to drive away?
After leaving Fuzzy’s, this deputy is stopped by CSPD and passes out in his car during the stop. See any issues here, at this point, this is not officer discretion, this is a felony, being drunk in possession of a weapon, or is this just another Elder cover up.
Please Pam, do some checking on this because we know Bill will just lie and say this never happened, but there have been others similar during this reign of cover up’s and denials.
By the way Elder, the polo shirt with the badge is an official uniform worn only by sworn personal. Nice try Bill who will be threatened next for continually pointing out all your disgusting behaviors. You ever going to promote Northam, yes or no. We all know you want your other molesters to be promoted first, King and Huffor.
When was this? I go to Fuzzy’s all the time.
Decision day is coming quickly, what will our future bring us and do we as a group control our outcome? It is said that nobody knows where the squeak in the floor is better than those who walk it everyday. No doubt there are those who are content with the Elder administration, they’ve been promoted, given opportunity, and gained stature in the organization. Others feel that politics and cronyism has played a role in the outcome we now live with. Unlike most political races where an individual goes to Denver or Washington and votes on issues that may or may not have a direct impact on our daily lives, the sheriff’s race is different, it’s a team sport. We are electing our team captain and they will form the team.
Let me take you back to an age old school yard tradition. Everyone is gathered together and ready to play ball, two people are going to select players one at a time from among the group standing before them. There are favorites based on talent, then there are the fillers who can do OK in the outfield, lastly there’s the less talented who everyone considers “The Last Pick”, they can’t hit, they can’t catch and they can’t run. What always demoralizes the players is when the captains best friend is “The Last Pick” and the captain wastes the first selection on this person because of friendship, the other team celebrates because they now have at least two top picks coming their way.
What does our team look like today? Do we have all the talent that was available in January of 2015 when the game began? Are we at bat more often than in the outfield? Do we have more runs than errors?………….Are we winning?
A new season is upon us, it’s time for the team captains to once again choose their team from the group standing before them, that group is us! Before this time honored tradition takes place however, we have a selection of our own to make.
Who will be the team captain?
Who do we trust to select the next team?
a person who exploits circumstances to gain immediate advantage rather than being guided by consistent principles or plans.
“the calculating and opportunist politician”
You only need to read/watch the news to see ELDER in action. To use others hardships and pain to your advantage is reprehensible.
Great call, “Ricowatch”
You don’t have to look any further than this to prove your point…
KKTV – Updated: Tue 10:52 AM, May 15, 2018
“Law spearheaded by local detectives to crack down on convicted stalkers”
The rank and file at the EPSO, and maybe the DA’s Office as well, must be over the moon with this story and the attached picture (Wait…is that newly-promoted / beloved DA Office Supervisor Joy Elder standing with Janet Huffor?) Thank god for the two of them and their hard work. They must be exhausted carrying the entire Office.
The headline stated “Law ‘spearheaded’ by local detectives…?” Apparently Chief of Staff Janet Huffor is now considered a “detective” seeing has how she was the only individual quoted in the story:
“It is a state of fear for those victims being unsure about where the person that’s convicted of the crime”…said Huffor. The article continues on to point out that “SHE SPEARHEADED” the bill to keep convicted abusers in jail until they are sentenced, which Huffor said “can take up to a month or longer…and in some cases we have had some very bad results that happened in that three to five week time period, where we even had someone who was murdered”
Which brings us back full circle to the previous comments by Ricowatch…”To use others hardships and pain to your advantage is reprehensible.”
I see old bill is still trying to use the death of a deputy as well as the deputy shot to stay in the news. Come on bill get some integrity and allow these folks to move on. Now Micah will never be forgotten and his family will never be alone. But you sure make it a point to always have them around for your benefit. So who paid for your table at the Lincoln Day dinner? We know you did not pay for your table out of your own pocket, just may need to do a CORA request to see if the county paid for this table for your political benefit. If so, see anything illegal?
So why is King not going to retire until June 26th, pretty convenient. If by a fluke you do win, he can pull his papers and be promoted to Chief immediately. I wonder how all this is making Northam feel. He has got to know what the game is, he is a smart man, right bill.
It sure is quiet about the DUI arrest of a newer deputy after drinking too much at Fuzzy’s Tacos. Will anything happen to the other deputies who were also drinking with him. I wonder if they were all armed? They just got lucky they did not get stopped. They are all wrong for not doing anything to stop him from driving away. Oh wait a minute your Internal Affairs cowards would do just as they were ordered to by you to not find any violation of policy, right Michael. That is how you roll bill.
You sure better get busy campaigning, because I see Angley is on a roll with signage going up everywhere, billboards are coming in key locations, and radio spots very soon. Maybe you have better consider debating and quit being a coward. We know Josh advised you not to, but you never let anyone tell you what to do, man up big guy.
Its pretty amazing how many of your staff do not support you, nor do they even respect you. This is the sign of a true leader, when your employees respect you, and you have none who respect you or would ever follow you into combat. When is the last time you pulled a shift working in the jail talking to your largest contingent of employees? When did you ride a patrol shift and handle calls for service? Have you ever assisted in the serving of civil papers, evictions or just service the public at the tranactions windows? What about pulling a booking shift or ride an all day transport with no lunch break?
So, when this primary is over, and you are a lame duck, you will be the last man standing of your administration. Your staff will immediately retire and leave you alone. Oh, I forgot, some get to retire, you do not. Maybe when you draw out what you had paid in county retirement, maybe you will invest it this time and not throw it away, as you did before when you quit.
You are no longer an asset to your fifth floor people, you are nothing more than an old pair of shoes that have out live their purpose waiting to be tossed out.
I sure feel sorry for your legal advisor. Why has she has not referred all the criminal activities brought to her attention been taken to the DA for investigation and disposition is beyond me. What she has been forced to overlook or just plain ignore totally violates her oath as an officer of the court. It may not bother you bill, because you have no conscious. What are you going to do Lisa, when bill is no longer around to protect you and all these incidents that were over looked are re-investigated.
Is your bar card really worth staying any longer and protecting elder? Think about it.
Really bill, I cannot believe you posted a picture of you delivering a sign during the day, in uniform and then not thinking anything is wrong. This is why so many felonies have been committed by special people during your watch with no review by the DA’s office to make the determination whether to prosecute or no file.
You are still telling people the comment you made directly to a retired deputy about the other candidate being a fucking cripple was misunderstood. How can this statement be misunderstood. How about about this deputy and you both take CVSA’s and see who is the liar, we know it won’t be the deputy.
You are the worst sheriff this county has ever had and the people are rising to make sure you and all your croonies leave with you. What are you going to do when old IA’s are re-examined and it is found you and others were involved in covering up criminal activity? You know the old saying, first one to the phone gets the best deal. I am sure there will plenty of folks ready and willing to talk. How about it there counselor, is this not true.
Be ready, its only a matter of time before you have to pay the piper.
Happy days are coming soon. Ex-sheriff has such a nice sound to it.
“Drinking the Kool-Aid”
It is an expression commonly used by Elder’s staff. They use this phrase as if it means getting along or going along with their great ideas.
Are they really that ignorant?
It that refers to any person or group who goes along with a doomed or dangerous idea because of peer pressure.
Let’s not forget the history of this saying.
The phrase derives from the November 1978 Jonestown deaths, in which over 900 members of the Peoples Temple, who were followers of Jim Jones, died, many of whom committed suicide by drinking a mixture of a powdered soft-drink flavoring agent laced with cyanide.
Should we tell them that it means suicide? In this case I don’t mean literally, but figuratively.
It’s not too late for these people to change their course and make things right.
I come back to this website every once in awhile when I think about how many years I wasted with this organization. I always feel sad that there are so many people with this organization that are miserable because they understand that they have no chance of progressing in it or changing it. Do you think that if you die on a call tomorrow or you get killed in the jail that the people in charge are going to lose a wink of sleep over it? Sure, they’ll go on TV and put on a show because it’s an election year. Do you know who would care if something happened to you, your wife or husband and kids. Don’t put your life on the line for an ungrateful public and an ungrateful organization for a couple extra dollars. If you can get out, get out!
Tremendous story by Scott Harrison/KRDO on Thursday afternoon:(“Three more marijuana busts conducted in El Paso County – Authorities raid suspicious operations Tuesday”)
“El Paso County Sheriff Bill Elder has announced the raid of three suspicious marijuana growing operations. Brief information and photos of the pot busts were posted Tuesday morning on Elder’s re-election Facebook page.” (Interesting – no Hatch Act violation there, right?) Elder said that “we now have the attention of the national media (Gee…national media?? Nothing like an attention getting ploy, right Sheriff??) who was on hand (just why were did they happen to be “on-hand?”) to learn why we are having this problem.”
Anyhow, looking forward to KRDO’s stories on the following as well:
1) “Man back in (EPSO) jail after he’s accidentally released” (Within 48 hours of his release, he reportedly assaulted his ex-girlfriend)
2) “El Paso County deputy arrested for DUI” (The arrest happened on April 14, 2018…just now charged??)
3) “Officers cleared in 2017 inmate death” (Arrested for drug possession, he was taken to the jail where he died after six deputies used “hand and knee strikes” on him and restrained his arms and legs for about 11 minutes. The EL PASO COUNTY CORONER’S OFFICE blamed the death on heroin and methamphetamine intoxication COMBINED with physical restraint by OFFICERS)
We’ll set our DVR’s…We’re sure it will be another “hard-hitting” KRDO story about the EPSO.
This website is an invaluable resource, not only for the community at large, but for those having to work under this corrupt administration. That being said, I have a major gripe. The impact of the information presented on this website is compromised, and often time delegitimized, by both the overly biased and cartoonish presentation, as well as the constant grammatical and spelling issues. This may not seem like a huge deal, but when many of those who are unaware of what is actually going on under this administration seek unbiased, professionally presented information, this is not the place for it. I realize that this is a “for the people, by the people” resource, but I strongly believe that if those running the website were to present their information similarly to how Angley has, or even just a reputable publication would, it would garner much more community support and would look a lot less like sour grapes, which is what Elder and those close to him keep implying. We don’t need Chomsky, but a tighter, professional presentation would undoubtedly benefit the cause, as it is a very serious one. Just my two cents.
Spot on, Fabuloso…spot on.
A newly hired traveling salesman wrote his first sales report to the home office. It so stunned the brass in the sales department because it was obvious that the new sales person was ignorant! Here’s what he wrote:
“I seen this outfit which they ain’t never bot a dime’s worth of nothing from us and I sole them goods. I’m now goin to Chicawgo.”
Before the man could be given the heave-ho by the sales manager, along came this letter from Chicago:
“I cum hear and sole them haff a million.”
Fearful if he did, and afraid if he didn’t fire the ignorant salesman, the sales manager dumped the problem in the lap of the CEO.
The following morning the ivory towered sales department members were amazed to see-posted on the bulletin board above the two written by the ignorant salesman-this memo from the CEO:
“We ben spending two much time trying to spel instead of tryin to sel. Let’s watch those sails. I want everybody should read these letters from Gooch who is on the rode doin a grate job for us and you should go out and do like he done.”
I’m a former Deputy; left before the Elder administration. Always have been registered as an “unaffiliated” voter. I’m happy to be able to vote in the primary this year in Colorado. I’ll be voting on the Republican ballot and it will NOT be for Sheriff Elder. Maybe he should realize there may be many of people like me that will jump at the chance to cast their vote AGAINST him and his cronies. The stories I am hearing in regards to the EPSO make me wonder how anyone on the fifth floor (or their “hitmen”) can sleep at night. You can throw your religion around all you want but I am going to take an educated guess that the good Lord above is NOT happy with how the Elder crew chooses to run the office and treat other people… but it is not my place to judge. Karma is a b*tch. #VoteRepublican
I understand people are still asking and want to know the truth about the fucking cripple comment Bill. You have so many different versions of what happened at the assembly. I think its time for us, the voters to start asking this same question at every speaking engagement you are at, to ask until we get to the truth. Janet had better get your idiot cards together because you cannot remember one version to the next.
Why is it when the most decorated deputy in the office stated to others what YOU said directly to him is immediately believed. Because he is a man that walked his entire career with dignity, integrity, honesty, and service to his community. You on the other hand had a question career that ended suddenly, pulled out you retirement money, made poor decisions and went bankrupt. It does not appear you did any better in the running of “TWO” small businesses, due to the fact you continue to say if not elected you will have no retirement plan. Do this sound like a man you want for another four years, a man who only rewards those who have no integrity and are only in pursuit of the cash cow.
Bill, lets see your versions are it was a phone call that was overheard and you were misinterpreted. You deny ever making the comment and the person you originally stated this to is lying. What the hell would he have to gain?
Throughout this campaign season you have lost the confidence of long time friends for your personal gain. If you would have admitted in the beginning you made this comment and apologized, it may have been different, but now its too late and you have to stick to you lie. Sorry Bill, be ready, because like so many others we will be asking this question directly to you at every event, coffee with a cop, speaking to groups, we want to know the truth, but then again, you would not recognize it if it ran you over.
By the way, the flood of good people bailing on you appears to almost be a daily action. County HR needs a revolving door due to the increase of sworn personnel walking away for an office they gave heart and soul to, but have had enough of your bullshit, old worn out staff folks who only care about their retirements and not asking why so many are leaving. As a leader you are pathetic, so please quit using the death of Micah, you are a sick man to ride this sad event on a weekly basis trying to save your crappy administration. Just go away.
To understand how much Bill cares about the people he is promoting is a pretty sad state of affairs. I guess Janet forgot to have his speech cards ready. Promotion day used to be a formal ceremony in class A, with family and friends there to support these folks about to take on their new responsibilities as supervisors. But no, old bill must be drinking or something. First off he shows up in casual dress like its just another day. Total lack of respect to the people he is promoting.
Then during the promotion ceremony he messes up the names of not one, but two of the people he is promoting. This is totally disrespectful you do not even know the names of the people you are promoting. It seems the only names you get correct are your minions and puppets, but later this summer I bet you get the names of the John and Tiffany Huntz correct.
Ask yourself bill why are so many folks retiring? You would have no idea because have you don’t even bothered to call them and ask why they are suddenly leaving, because you don’t care. I hear one is leaving from being a supervisor to taking a lower pain job. Tell you anything big guy. All you ever say is they are disgruntled employees. Be honest here old man, they did not become unhappy over night, it began the day you took office and have continued to destroy the integrity of the office of sheriff. Your smoke and mirrors have lots of people baffled, but every one needs to see you for who you really are, nothing more than a modern day con man, but your time is coming and breaking news will be the end of your lies and cover up’s for good. See you in the funny papers.
As one of those that departed the Elder regime, I can say that I left because the administration decided to minimalize me and others I intended to remain for a few more years. I was hoping for positive change for the office, but instead, like everyone else, got management by fear and intimidation 2.0. Elder recycled old leaders of the prior administration, promoted a couple, and plugged in a few new faces, but the end result was no change. A lot of good people were pushed aside or disregarded completely so that “their” people were put in. Now, I get it, a new boss wants to put his people in key positions….happens in a lot of places in the public and private sector. Elder didn’t bring in any new people….I guess we could laud him for being green by “recycling” old leaders….unfortunately, those old leaders were no good when they were in place the first time. Elder had a perfect opportunity coming in to build and develop the future leadership of the office by promoting from within, but no, it was easier to just reuse and repurpose the old leaders. If Elder would have kept his campaign promises, this site would not be here. If Elder would have tried to engage the supervisors in developing and improving the office, this website wouldn’t exist. But, he decided to reward his buddies and minions with advancement and made up positions. It appears that he is mismanaging 1A tax funds in such a manner that the likelihood that the tax will be renewed is slim to none. Even some of his chosen few have forsaken him….Chief Deputy Evans and Wendy Habert left so quickly that the three of them did a video for the office to “explain” their departure…..by the way Bill, we didn’t buy the bu#@&hit.
For my brothers and sisters, sworn and civilian that I left behind….I truly feel bad for you. I ask you to stick together, support each other, but more importantly, exercise your right to vote. Even if you are unaffiliated, Democrat, Whig, Independent, whatever, you can vote as a Republican in the June 26 primary. Contact the El Paso County Clerk’s office for more info. Bill Elder has made the comment that deputies have never influenced an election before; show him that he is wrong. Talk to your neighbors, friends, anyone who will hear you. Elder likes to think of the office as a boat; unfortunately he thinks rank and file are galley slaves that need to be whipped. Time for a mutiny!!!!!!
Looking like more good people are leaving the office rather than put up with all the Elder B/S. How much more experience can this office afford to lose. He is promoting people to positions that he does not even know who they are nor can he pronounce their names correctly.
He sure does like all the photo opp’s at the memorials, campaigning on duty, so who is taking care of business on a daily basis.
Bill and Shultz make such a big deal out of all these marijuana busts. Please provide information on how you have identified the “true” value of the product if you cannot prove it is going to the east coast to be distributed. The only proof is the word of Shultz and even the gazette stated there was no documentation to support this theory. What about the cartel connection, all you have is some undocumented Cubans, where are the arrests of the leadership of these alleged cartels. All you have arrested, and not very many, are low level growers. What a bunch of smoke and no real hard facts on how this is making a big difference.
Lets talk about all the folks choosing to leave the office rather than be a part of your failed administration. They would rather go work school security, SRO, or just do nothing rather than stay and be a part of your failed circus. Do you even bother to do exit interviews to see what the issues are and why good folks are bailing? No, because you just don’t care, never did, never will.
So why don’t you and Joy pack your trailer and move on down the road. You and your administration will soon be gone, forgotten, and allow this office to become a professional organization under new leadership in all positions, and be an office that puts all employees first over self gratification. And the employees say, hell no we are not okay!!!
Let’s take a closer look at Bill Elders latest feel good project that we’ll call “The Mental Emergency Specialty Squad”, or M.E.S.S for short. This is obviously another white board project done with the really big markers straight from the wall in Bills office on the fifth floor. This is common practice when panic sets in. For those of you who have never been subjected to this torture, here’s how it works:
This is how new programs are born with Bill. He sits at home fretting because it’s been a rough day, Bill needs constant petting or he tends to turn to adult beverages. He sits in turmoil trying to come up with something that will look really good, he gets a vision in the bottom of his glass then he schedules a meeting with “Executive Staff” the next day.
Present at the table, the usual bobble heads; Larry Borland, Joe Breister, Jackie Kirby and your hostess Janet Huffor who hands Bill the big markers to color with as his thoughts bounce around in his head like a marble in a metal trashcan. For this particular brainstorm session, I imagine the Gehretts, Rod and Steph were also there. First he assigns the puppet to be the face of the new project. Larry will then shift funds to cover it, Janet is responsible for selling it, Jackie is in charge of propaganda to the media who always falls for it, and Uncle Joe is a prop to make everyone believe they staffed it. The following Wednesday, the remaining members of the staff gather for the weekly continental breakfast in “The Chamber” on the fifth floor to listen to the rhetoric from Bill knowing fully well it’s another Amway scheme. They all nod in agreement as long as their paychecks and take home cars are secure then they adjourn to the Corner Café for lunch.
This is how YOUR tax money is being spent!
If Janet Huffor were worth the 90k (+) you’re giving her, she would be in Denver lobbing to re-ignite the Lighthouse project. This was the state program that used to handle this issue. Why is the sheriff’s office getting involved in a medical practice? Because Rodney Gehrett’s #4 just graduated college and needs a laboratory to research her upcoming book on the gaps in the criminal mind. No doubt a fifty-page best seller. Lets just hope that Bill doesn’t label smoking as a gateway habit leading to incarceration or Bill will have another Commanders wife or adult child in a patrol unit racing to crime scenes to pass out nicotine gum.
Feel good Band-Aid projects may fool some voters but in the end, it’s no way to run a Law Enforcement agency.
Thank you for the link to Mr. Angley’s article on the “Attrition” at the EPSO. Very illuminating, I trust Elder and gang about as much as Mexican tap water. If only enough voters would get this information perhaps this bad dream would end. Don’t count on the media to enlighten them. If you caught the Richard Randall show this morning it was like listening to porn, Richard couldn’t stop gushing over Bill. This is the same guy who complains about the main stream media and their love for Hillary and Obama. Your no different Richard!
Point well taken Duncan. Randall spent more time trying to explain the interview was not with the “political” candidate due to someone putting them on notice the FCC is now watching. His comments sounded way over the top and proved he is an Elder supporter, is was sickening. He was very careful to not announce who the other candidate for sheriff was. Richard and bill should have just gotten a cheap room and skipped the interview. Sounded like a love fest on the radio.
Now another created position without any type of process through county HR. How many positions does this make that will go away later due to improper hiring practices. What are Natalie’s qualifications for this new Research and Development supervisor. Does she have a degree in media communications, experience as a supervisor, and was this position competed for through application, interview, banding through HR. Nope just another favor by old bill. So Natalie, another kool aid drinker
By the way, now old bill is having his friend Carey all of a sudden appear on camera on yesterday’s grow bust. So who is really doing all the warrant and intel prep paperwork. We know its not bill jr, he has no clue what he is doing in connection to this operation and always seems to have a phone to his ear just like Janet. Bill, you are looking pretty tired, dark glasses, and red faced, hmmmm. Pete looked totally out of place like he didn’t want to be there.
Time is counting down, the people are rallying, and soon it will be time to start packing for the 5th floor to work on resumes. Time is running short for the elder cartel to be run out of town. Gone and forgotten real soon.
Tremendous recent pieces by both El Paso County Sheriff’s candidate Mike Angley and “Dirty Elder:”
1) Regarding Ms. Gangemi…She actually sent an email detailing her credentials? Perhaps “the lady protests too much”
2) Regarding Ms. Sosa…does she get another sick dog (or two?) from Bill along with this promotion? Anyone that would knowingly pass along a sick animal to you. (that would end up costing you thousands) is absolutely no leader…and a pathetic/embarrassing human being…and Ms. Sosa needs to realize that. But I suppose 60K will make a person overlook a lot.
3) Regarding Mr. Angley’s post about the attrition rate at the EPSO. The “Loss of Institutional Knowledge” directly affects the loss of “institutional” memory. Once Elder is surrounded by a majority of employees who can no longer recollect how proud this Office once was, the better off he looks. That’s obviously his plan. Don’t buy into it, folks…this Office was once great.
And it can be once again.
Ms. Gangemi –
It’s interesting how your email doesn’t elaborate on your sudden and immediate resignation (without notice) as “mental health director at CJC.” Perhaps that’s an indication of your “commitment and whole educational career and professional life to addressing issues between law enforcement and the mentally ill.”
By the way…we would love to see that process you endured while being hired. Apparently you “went through the standard county application, interview and ‘hire’ process for my position.” You ask “Which applicants out qualified me with their level of education, experience, community relationships and expertise?” We will never know, seeing as how County HR and Elder are in bed together. We only hope you weren’t given any interview questions in advance. Because that never happens…It’s also convenient that your “endorsement” of Bill Elder just happened to coincide with your exit from CJC. Hmmm. Unlike many of your “patients” Ms. Gangemi/Gehrett…we’re not crazy. And we’re not stupid.
Ms. Gangemi/Gehrett – These aren’t “false allegations” by a group of “anonymous cowards” . These are the FACTS that you’re asking for. Any notion that anyone is “trying to use” you “as a pawn” in “political nonsense” is foolish and misguided. It was you and your husband’s decision to place you in this unfortunate position.
You go on to state that you’re “the best person for this job and you won’t stoop to engaging me in your game.”
You can now consider yourself “engaged.”
I am amazed with Ms. Gangemi’s swift reaction, at least she was the only one who have a heart to confront the allegation so far, and I think she were very aware where she would be lead by the command staff in EPSO.
I wish more individuals got the same dignity like her, come forward in clearing the muddy swamp, from all alligators in it (I am so sure -they got a big, mean, scary one)
It was refreshing to see someone defend themselves. If one conducts themselves above board it’s relatively easy. Although I don’t recall seeing a job posting for the position, no doubt Ms. Gangemi could provide it.
As to the fairness of a board, who knows, it’s always been a closed process. The optics of a Commanders wife and campaign endorser winning the lottery does seem a bit of a reach.
This announcement along with the Natalie Sosa promotion sure looks like Bill’s padding paychecks in the event he finds himself out of work along with all his friends.
While having morning coffee, I thought about what leadership skills does Elder possess that has made the office a better place to work. Answer none. He is a man who has the authority but no abilities to lead a professional organization. He manages by manipulation. Its either his way or the highway.
Good forbid you cross the old man, because your departure will not be acknowledged or recognized for all your years of service. and accomplishments. People are dropping paper to leave this dying organization and all the Elder people care about is getting their face time on the news. BFD, when you think about it you look like a fool talking about how you are eradicating big grows. Yes you bust one lowly illegal, you get their plants, and really what did you accomplish. Nothing really, the head of the snake has already replaced this grow in another part of the county and you are no closer to arresting the real leadership, because you do not have the correct folks assigned to this unit. The lieutenant in charge has made how many felony arrests or case during his career. Do the research, he would not know how.
All this TV time is a good distraction from some real issues old man. What about the Tom Clemens case. We all know you have enough information to continue and make more arrests, but are you afraid of the 211 boys. What about releasing the KRW report, afraid of what it showed that you are running a flawed organization. Let move on to the shooting where our deputy was killed and another wounded. Why is this not released yet. Ballistics still not back yet, I don’t think so. My guess is there is information that could make you look bad, bet its not released until after the primary. Also why is one of the deputy’s involved in this incident suddenly move to a prestigious slot with the fed’s in Denver, not the most experienced in service or expertise. Just asking. What about the forensic audit you ranted about before you were select, never happened. How about doing one now to show how you have properly spent tax payers money, you afraid what it would bring to light?
You are looking pretty ragged and run down lately old timer, I would recommend you get a check up before you stroke out during one of your rants. On second thought, don’t so you can see the the answer to your own question, are we okay and no one is there to answer you. You and your inept group of clowns will be gone soon and be nothing more than a fart in the wind.
Ballots will be out soon, so vote!!! Four more years of this same circus or bring on a man with all the right leadership skills to bring the office back to one of integrity and pride.
Make sure you may remember about how loud his macho attitude in challenging staffs during annual in service training, because their disgruntled gesture by tell to settle them at the parking lot, men to men or women ( you may lose fight because he also said he has a gun and will not hesitate to put a bullet in your head)
It’s so confidently above the law – but always look behind his wet ear if 211 crew my visit him during trip to Starbucks.
Well well, old Bill acts like he is crime fighter of the year after being on national news a couple of times. Lets talk about all your great accomplishments and qualifications, or lack of.
You have brought so much distrust and no leadership to the office by bringing back the corrupt and unfit staff from the previous administration. Benefit, more and more lawsuits, with bigger one’s on the horizon. Cronyism, you continue to promote and protect the chosen few on the fifth floor and choose to ignore the professional employees who actually provide the services to this community.
You claim to support your people when it comes to this election and say they can support who they wish, as long as it is you. If not you make threats to try to intimidate them to support you. You are nothing more than an over the hill punk. You threaten people in a training class because they write about your poor leadership abilities. You threaten them to meet you on the street to settle these issues. Well old timer, all that would happen would be you would get a good old fashion ass whipping, just like you will get in the Huntz trial which you delayed until after the primary due to the truth that will come out at trial and prove the crooks you and King truly are.
It also sounds like you have a few screws loose. In this same class you stated to the group, you can say what you want about me, but you fuck with Joy, I have a gun and I will put a bullet in your fuckin head. Wow, maybe Ms Gangemi needs to do an immediate evaluation on you. Hey Dan May, what are your thoughts of your friend Bill making these types of statements in full view of so many eyewitnesses? Another mix-up? You have had a lot of the those foot in the mouth moments. Oh by the way, at the end of this tirade you walk over to lil Billy and says screw them, and shakes his hand. Screw them, he is telling everyone in the room to screw them and only shows support to the ass kisser. You call this a leader and some one you want in charge of the office or a budget he will not show how it is being spent. Think about this people, here is a 60+ man with no retirement in place, and sends only special people to training who provide no benefit to the office. Why is it necessary to send so many folks to a chief of police conference when the office no long belongs to this organization. Can you say pay for play. CORA all travel and see how much tax payer money has been wasted.
I hear Bill will be starting random drug test by the end of the year. Real smart, giving this much advance warning how is that going to be random. Why not start now. If you had been testing already maybe the Fuzzy Taco incident may not of happened. Just saying, but its true, right Bill. There is a reason this deputy refused to name the other parties present during this drinking while armed party.
Now the county will be experiencing another suit due to the lack of supervision and oversight in the medical section which again old bill brought in. Not looking good on the in-custody death. This all falls back on you due to the lack of proper training and supervision. Well this also falls back on Deluca, another one brought that was not qualified to handle the responsibility.
What next, how many more deputies will be assaulted due to the lack of adequate staffing in the jail and on patrol. How many people are leaving or have left in the past ten days. Its all because of you. A poor example of a leader who has proven he cannot manage his personal life well and we thought he could manage a multi-million dollar budget. I was a fool once to support this con man, but not again. Vote Mike Angley, we know the majority of the office are supporting this candidate. Will you be regretting the next four years at the office or excited to be a part of bringing change to make EPSO a professional organization again?
Ballots will be coming soon, do not be intimidated. Either you support the present regime or you vote to support change.
An open letter to the following –
The Colorado Springs Gazette
The Richard Randall/Jeff Crank/Tron Show (740 KVOR)
(and if those in charge of these “media” outlets aren’t reading “dirtyelder.com” , please trust that your readers, listeners, and viewers certainly are):
“Why are we, the true conservative voters in El Paso County, forced to get our news from the “alt-left” Colorado Springs Independent? Where is your follow-up to the CJC death on 9/7/17 of inmate Eliezer Tirado-Ortiz? The CS Independent spelled it out quite nicely…the rest of you barely gave it a mention other than saying that the EPSO was not responsible. Where has your follow-up been with the real corruption that continues to haunt 27 E. Vermijo?
How in the world can KVOR’s Jeff Crank continue to extoll the virtues of Bill Elder…”he’ll win by 70%…uhh 60% because he’s a ‘great sheriff” (5/30/18 – KVOR). Exactly what’s “great” about him, Jeff? He doesn’t even have that support of his troops at the EPSO. Anf just as a reminder, Mr. Crank, please see your endorsement from Elder’s re-election website below:
JEFF CRANK, of the JEFF CRANK SHOW 740 KVOR
“When I endorsed Bill Elder for El Paso County Sheriff three years ago, there were three things I was looking for. I wanted a staunch defender of our Second Amendment Rights, someone to keep us safe and secure in our homes and neighborhoods, and a champion of our taxpayer dollars. Three years later, Sheriff Bill Elder has not disappointed. He has been a stalward defender of gun rights, has kept our community safe, and he has been vigilant with our scarce tax dollars. I wholeheartedly support Bill Elder for another term as El Paso County Sheriff.”
How’s that crime rate, Jeff? How is that 1A money being spent, Jeff?
Anybody in El Paso County feel safer today than they did three years ago? Has anyone east of Powers seen a Deputy in days? Care to report the facts (or take a call) on that, Jeff…??
The truth is that Bill Elder did absolutely NOTHING during his first three years in office (2015-2017), other that promote the un-promotable and lose close t0 400 experienced staff members. Now he’s crying “lack of resources” just like we told you all he would.
Your job as “journalists” is to report the news, not impact it, not manipulate it, not influence it. Just report the truth. Is it that hard to do? And if you’re not reading this, someone that used to respect your work is…
By the way, Mr. Crank –
Regarding your 5/30/18 KVOR morning show…
You “talked to Sheriff Bill Elder on the way over” to your show but he couldn’t speak live with you? Why?? Interesting that you seemed to parrot the talking points that Elder gave you. By the way…the “other person” (apparently you had no desire as a “journalist” to actually remember his name) running for Sheriff is Mike Angley. Happy to hear you have “no problem with him running.”
And your Sheriff is being sued by the “liberal” ACLU not because he’s “too tough” on “illegal immigrants.” It’s because what he is doing is ILLEGAL!! And you know that.
Regarding your comment about “tax revenue”…you state that “we made government grow” and that you don’t think “we need more tax revenue.” What will you say when, Bill Elder (your chosen one) comes out shortly and asks for more $$$$???
If Elder is such a “great Sheriff” Jeff, tell us why he won’t participate in any debates in order to support his record…why won’t he even participate in any open forums? What is he hiding, Jeff? You know…and we know.
Jeff Crank…you are a fraud.
Bill, just have a forensic audit performed on all the spending by your administration, release the KRW report, and release the results of the investigation involving the unfortunate death of Dep Flick. What are you hiding by not releasing these reports the public. We the public are entitled to review your spending, the report completed with tax payer money, and show the entire Flick investigation and ballistic findings. What are you afraid of or are the ballistics the issue? Please do this before lil bill starts following through on his threats to the public which your friends Pete and Dan cannot ignore. This kid is not qualified to be a cop and has become one step short of crossing over that thin blue line. Rein you boy in or you too will be responsible for his actions, as well as others. Its called unlawful retention. $$$
Anyone see the rant on Bill’s FB page about the Huffor’s being followed around town and inappropriate use of company car by Lil Bill? I bet there is more to that story.
To Bill Huffor,
For legal purposes, thank you for sharing. Personal use of the county vehicle is taxable according to the IRS. UNLESS:
Unmarked vehicles used by law enforcement officers, if the use is officially authorized.
Who officially authorized you to transport your kids on a regular basis?
Can you say AUDIT or TIP LINE!
So the Huffors are taking the gloves off. This should be about as entertaining as watching a Korean stir-fry cook hanging up missing cat posters.
Perhaps they’ll break off the Uber investigation to get to the bottom of this one.
Attention fellow tax payers, you and I are investors in the county. Our money funds what is happening. What are we getting from the sheriff’s office under Elder?
To date because of the public safety tax, we have invested an average of 17 million dollars a year since 2012. What do we have to show for OUR investment?
• Fewer deputies patrolling OUR community.
• Fewer deputies working in OUR jail.
• No transparency or public reports on OUR investment.
• Multiple lawsuits against US.
• Rising crime rates in OUR community.
• Drug Czars in OUR community.
• Increased wait time on OUR 911 system.
Would you continue to invest YOUR money into a company like this by choice?
Does anyone remember Enron or Silverado savings and loan?
Both were Fortune 500 companies run into ruin by their board of directors who padded their own nests at the cost of their investors.
This is exactly what is being done at the sheriff’s office by YOUR Board of directors. Let me introduce you to them:
Bill Elder: Goes from failing real estate salesman to sheriff with an annual salary of about $130,000 thousand dollars. He has repeatedly stated that to qualify for retirement he must get a second term. This is obviously his priority, and WE will pay him until he passes.
Janet Huffor: Is hired in 2015 to assume a position that had never existed before to the tune of $90,000 thousand dollars annually that WE pay for. If Ol’ bill gets a second term she’s vested.
Billy Huffor: Is promoted to sergeant in 2015 and assumes a position that has never before existed, 2nd Sergeant at the Courthouse. He is then promoted to Lieutenant and now occupies yet another position that never before existed prior to Bill Elder and is making about $100,000 thousand annually that WE pay for.
Larry Borland: is hired as the Administrator, a position that had never before existed prior to 2015 when Ol’ bill took office. This slot is worth $115,000 thousand dollars annually that WE pay for. If Larry makes the eight-year mark due to bill getting another term, he plans to live out his life in Arizona and YES, WE pay for that too.
Jackie Kirby: Was once Terry Makita’s Public Information Officer. When Ol’ bill took office in 2015 he created yet another position that had never before existed and Jackie became the Director of communications along with a hefty raise that brought her annual salary to $90,000 thousand dollars that WE pay for.
Natalie Sosa: Is rumored to be up for a promotion into you guessed it, another position that has never existed before although, this one comes with the same job description as the slot currently held by Jackie Kirby. Who knows what her raise will be but rest assured, WE will pay for it.
This is what it’s like to be in the “Friends of Bill Club.” If you give this fool another four years, you’ll make the national headlines as the next county to go bankrupt……………Wait a minute,
Ol’ bills got experience with that!
Hey lil Billy,
You are just like your daddy bill, you both have over inflated ego’s and over value your importance to the office. Why would anyone want to waste their time following you or your family around is beyond me.
You and now your daddy make all these accusations about Mike and his supporters, but you have no proof, like all your claims all the marijuana is destined for the east coast as well as the few that have been arrested are cartel related. Show us the facts and the proof. You have none to support you claims just like bill claims to have been in law enforcement his entire career. We still want to know why you left VNI, was it because you did something wrong and were going to be reassigned back to the jail?
How about a good debate and settle all the isssues in a public setting? You game or are you a coward?
Ok, so accusations have been made that Mr. Angley has completed video surveillance on the Hufor family. Without investigation or confirmation Bill Elder has acted as Judge and Jury and convicted his opponent without the courtesy of a contact to ask if the accusations are true. As the Sheriff I would think he would have enough experience to at least investigate the accusation prior to speaking about it. I guess I am not surprised because Bill Elder is no Sheriff! He is simply a con artist pretending to be a sheriff. Any LEO would investigate this properly prior to making an official statement. Sloppy and childish, lets get the emotion riled up so that the real issue is not addressed – anyone recognize the bait and switch here folks? One of the oldest cons in the world!! While he is spewing out falsehoods of surveillance he does not have to defend his record, don’t get caught up in the whirlwind of “woe is us and we be victims” . Speaking of victims, think of all the folks the Hufor’s have victimized.
Maybe people just despise the Hufor’s so much that they are willing to accomplish such acts. Maybe the Hufor team can get away with all sorts of violations because Bill Elder makes excuses for them, lets see – sexual harassment, voter harassment, Janet has threaten to quit several times while throwing temper tantrums all the while collecting an executive salary. Billy is allowed to work in areas of the office he is not qualified for, thus leaving real LEO’s behind. I guess the Hufor’s feel entitled, must be quite the shock when they are observed using taxpayer funded vehicles and fuel to drop their kids off to school. You know the tax money we give to them to protect us. Maybe the employees have just had enough of the Hufor dynasty, after all they are untouchable.
What is this BS Veterans for Bill Elder? He referred to a disabled veteran as a F**cking cripple. Bill Elder does not understand the concept of service, he quit the Sheriff’s Office when he thought he was going to held accountable for his misdeeds and that he may have to work in the jail. In fact he told several people prior to his departure back then that he was never going to work in the jail. He certainly understands taking care of servicing himself first and those who helped in his campaign and the “screw the rest of them” , where have we heard that before?
I find it hilarious that Bill Elder/Billy Huffor are angry at the “surveillance” they may be under. You know what they say….Karma is a bitch. Back when Elder was running for Sheriff, he put former Sheriff Maketa under surveillance in an effort to get more dirt on him.
As a former employee, I know that it used to be in policy that those with take home cars could not use them for personal use; transporting family members was not allowed unless authorized by the member’s supervisor. It was never meant to be allowed as a regular thing. But, it is the Huffors, so I’m certain Billy and Janet have both been blessed to use county vehicles to transport the little ones wherever they need to go.
This isn’t new to this regime. Under Maketa, a pregnant deputy was allowed to drive her work vehicle while she was on light duty during her pregnancy. A current staff member was in her chain of command back then and either didn’t care about the potential liability that the county would incur should she and her unborn child be injured in a car accident or more likely was just another example of the innate favoritism that has been ingrained in the Sheriff’s Office.
Bill Elder is only out for him and his cronies; he only ran for Sheriff so he could collect a pension from the county, like all county officials who complete their two terms of service. He doesn’t care about the citizens or the people that are doing all the work. He needs to go. The primary election is June 26…do you want four more years of this or do you want some real change?
The question of policy violation should be a no brainer, unfortunately we must tolerate Bill Elder who has no brains to prove it. This is the same guy who can’t follow the law when it comes to immigration holds.
County employee’s in some cases are issued county vehicles to perform their duties. The question is, can they operate these cars for personal use. The short answer is NO, these vehicles are the property of the tax payers and are intended for official use only. If this were not the case, then each and every taxpayer would demand a vehicle or at least a free taxi service for themselves and their family.
Further, there is an incredible liability to the taxpayer should an accident occur in one of these vehicles. Not only would there be damage to the vehicle but who pays if a family member is seriously injured or if the vehicle is being used for personal business with family on board when a major accident happens. You guessed it the taxpayer, once the lawsuit is settled it is the taxpayer who will suffer.
This sounds all to familiar when it comes to Bill Elder and his accomplice in ignorance Billy Huffor. If Billy Huffor was in fact driving his county vehicle with his children on board and delivering them to school, he’s wrong! Just as he was wrong when he inappropriately touched a female employee, just as he was wrong when he discharged a shotgun at a barking dog, just as he was wrong to intimidate delegates at the county assembly, just as he is wrong to use his rank tom intimidate employees. Billy Huffor is an Arrogant Ass pure and simple.
Bill Elder is his enabler; this makes him an even bigger Arrogant Ass. Elder has gone to great length to cover for Billy. He has discontinued the Disciplinary Board to cover his sexual harassment of female employees, He has changed the policy to cover Billy’s careless and potentially life threatening discharge of a firearm. He stood by and in fact participated in delegate intimidation at the county assembly. And now apparently it’s OK to provide a taxi service for family members on the county dime, as long as your name is Huffor.
Bill Elder and Billy Huffor are both mentally ill to be more to the point their both certifiable NUTS! Neither can hold their temper, emotions or mouth, and both carry guns and threaten to use them on those that don’t agree with them. Both feel they are above the law and will change it at will to accommodate their obnoxious behavior. Dan May and the Board of County Commissioners will even cover for them.
So county tax payers, if you need a ride anywhere or can’t get those kids to school, just call any county employee with a county car, or better yet call Billy Huffor. Bill Elder has now authorized county vehicles for public use in order to once again cover for Lil Billy. Perhaps that UBER sticker was no mistake?
Once more, Billy Huffor is writing checks his ass can’t cash. Calling Billy Huffor a mental midget does make him laughable, but this is no laughing matter. Billy Huffor is no better than those wearing orange jumpsuits and he may well be getting dangerously close to wearing one himself.
Billy consistently pushes his behavior over the line to see what he can get away with. If his alleged sexual misconduct or his voter intimidation are properly investigated, he could have two felony counts to put on his inmate resume. As we have seen with all those suffering from self inflated ego’s, they tend to test the system and probe for weakness until they discover what they believe to be their perfect opportunity.
Billy Huffor has found this opportunity in Bill Elder. It’s only a matter of time before Billy Huffor reaches the point of no return. He will do something so incredibly stupid that even Bill Elder won’t be able to cover it up. All the good Ol’ boys and gals on the BOCC and yes even the witting accomplices at the DA’s office won’t be able to put Humpty back together again. They will all turn their backs and Bill Elder will be done.
Why would Bill Elder put up with and cover such nonsense from a punk kid who’s now a spoiled child in a mans body? Because Bill Elder is no different. He is simply an older version of the same spoiled child, he employs the same tactics, same threats, same obnoxious behavior.
Psychologically challenged “Pea’s in a pod”
Observations from a Sunday morning (6/3/18) with El Paso County Sheriff Bill Elder’s lapdogs:
Interesting that when radio host Tron Simpson (KVOR) actually had the balls to ask Elder why he’s choosing not to debate “his opponent”, Elder replied by saying that he doesn’t feel that he needs “to defend his record.” Nobody is asking you to defend anything, Sheriff…but some answers and some explanations might be helpful.
And thank you, Tron, for telling us that you’re voting for Bill Elder. For somebody who continually stresses that he does his “homework” you apparently haven’t done much here. But you can be my “softball” pitcher anytime.
Then we have the local rag…and their endorsement of Bill Elder:
“The Gazette shares favorites in contested Republican primaries”
“The 28th sheriff of El Paso County, Elder took over a department in peril”
– Did anyone actually employed with the EPSO at that time feel in “peril?”
I didn’t think so.
“Elder improved morale”
-Says who, Elder?…perhaps the esteemed Gazette should actually speak with the employees keeping this train wreck together with bandaids and scotch tape for the real story.
“and directed the office back to running a jail and keeping the peace.”
=What does that even mean??
“A seasoned law-enforcement professional”
= The Colorado Springs Gazette obviously has a very loose meaning of “professional.”
Elder began his career volunteering with the Sheriff’s Office in 1978.
– Who cares? He was washing cars (has he described with Tron on KVOR)
“Elder relentlessly fights drug cartels and hundreds of illegal marijuana producers that raise violent crime rates and jeopardize children.”
– For the record…it’s only been “relentless” since the results of the County Assembly in March. Perhaps his “relentlessness” would have been more valuable had he started immediately after taking office.
The Gazette also goes on to mention that…
“We met with contender Mike Angley. He appears capable and brings relevant experience. But, he doused our positive impression with a desperate campaign mailer communicating scurrilous and unfounded accusations directed at the Sheriff’s Office. It sounded nutty.”
– Those “scurrilous and unfounded accusations” only sound “nutty” because it’s an easy way to dismiss the complete lack of attention you and the rest of the media paid to them. You should be embarrassed.
“Elder saved the Sheriff’s Office and improved public safety.”
– Does anyone in El Paso County feel safer today than they did 3 1/2 years ago? Maybe the Gazette can run a story comparing the crime statistics between 2015 and 2018…but we’re guessing that would just be to “nutty.”
Did the Gazette really believe what they wrote in their endorsement for Elder. Lets see you say Elder has improved morale. You bet he has with all the newly created positions and over inflated salaries with unqualified FOB. Morale is so high, why is the attrition rate at the highest level in the history of the office. He is back running a jail. Due to the lack of staffing has had a high number of deputy assaults and a higher than number of turnover due to poor leadership up front. One is busy chasing females, one left and the other is busy doing nothing.
You called Bill a seasoned law enforcement officer. Then why did he leave law enforcement instead of retiring? He had a lackluster career in real estate, and now comes back and is a miserable failure as a leader. The office is constantly being sued for sexual harassment. If you really believe he is moving the office in the right direction, you need new glasses and a new map, he is taking this office to total ruin. The claim of fighting drug cartels has not been proven yet. Your paper printed there has been no proof provided other than Shultz’s claim all the marijuana is headed for the east coast and all the growers have ties to the cartel. Where is the proof.
He ended up on TV because his campaign manager is constantly hounding the station “claiming” Elder is the drug buster for Colorado. Lets tell the entire story about the man, and not what sounds good. Lets see how Mr walk on Water does during a public debate with the other candidate, would this not be of interest to your readers. Put on your big girl panties gazette editor and set up a public debate where both candidates can respond to questions from the community. If not cancel my subscription to you worthless, bias newspaper. Its not even worth recycling, maybe line the bottom of a bird cage, with all the other crap.
“Lets see you say Elder has improved morale.”
LOL…. The CSIndependent, which doesn’t really like Angley, endorsed him over Elder, pointing out that Maketa, who was “indicted on criminal charges” and had problems of his own, still didn’t have a “DirtyMaketa” website created by employees past, and present, who hated him! Only Elder has that distinction, and rightly so.
HOT HEAD COP!!!!!!
Billy Huffor has brought himself up on our radar yet again. Lil Billy Huffor can be categorized in one simple title “HOT HEAD COP.” Several factors make up this type of individual, selfishness, lack of character, inflated self opinion, spoiled childhood, and more likely than not, a mental condition.
Billy Huffor is a snot nose kid with a badge that he definitely shouldn’t have, much less a gun that he’s proven he can’t be trusted with. This kid is the one you pray doesn’t pull your child over for a burned out tail light. He has no control over his emotions, temper or mouth. His deplorable actions against fellow employees to include young females and his outbursts on Facebook are proof that he is a bomb ready to go off. He is the classic “Easy Mark.” GOD help us all when he is goaded into an irrational act and we all know it’s coming.
Make no mistake, Billy Huffor is going to get someone hurt with his unchecked insanity. When it happens, go no further than Bill Elder with your anger and rage because he is the Dr. Frankenstein that created this spoiled little monster.
For those of you who read this blog but do not know Billy Huffor, let me create a visual reference for you so that you can understand just what you’re dealing with. A similar icon of contempt was a character in the movie “The Green Mile.” Deputy Percy Wetmore was a young, unqualified arrogant punk who had gained his position not by talent, but by his connections with the hierarchy within the system. His obnoxious and dangerous antics placed all his coworkers at constant risk. Percy took great pleasure in the mental cruelty of others. Billy Huffor is Percy Wetmore in living form. Bill Elder protects him at any cost.
Billy Huffor is a HOT HEAD COP, What are you going to do about it????????
Bill and Janet
If you are making an official complain and accusing a person doing a criminal offense i.e stalking, trespassing, intimidation , also trying to report said allegation to the authority, pretty sure you may have an airtight prove to support you allegation.
But if you just feel, it’s such a good idea and looks so dramatic to throw a tantrum, and because it was a fake news which may never happens in the first place as you PERCEIVE,
Don’t you think it will bringing your daddy more nightmares in keeping you safe and untouchable from the hands of law? (I forgot… he is the lawman)
Billy, you’re no victim. Just follow the rules. The questionable trajectory of his career path (not earned on merit) paired with his inappropriate conduct that has gone unchecked has hurt a lot of good men and women rendering him nearly untouchable with the protection of his enabler, Bill Elder. It should come as no surprise that a lot of people would feel motivated to document Huffor doing something that doesn’t comply with policy – this isn’t an Angley/Elder issue. Some self-reflection would be helpful Mr. Huffor. From what I gather, your love wins philosophy is doing you no favors if you can’t even keep your hands to yourself. The gloves don’t need to come off Billy, you need to keep your hands off.
Wow Janet, we all knew you were never qualified for your position due to the lack of skills and knowledge on how to handle interaction with the public without your little title backing you up. Ms Null called it exactly as it was, it was a volunteer who has no idea who you or Billy are nor does she probably really care. Her only interest was she is backing the other candidate. The real fact is you have made you and your family out to be more important than you really are. Think about it, without your titles what do you really have or who are you? Too deep for you to digest? Go see Dr T, you need it before you end up in Cedar Springs.
You have proven you are really a raving fool like billy, you verbally assaulted this young lady, you blocked her car on a public roadway, maybe you should have called the authorities to arrest your dumb ass. You may have authority and scare folks from your perch, but as a resident and a citizen you are no better than some of the people arrested and booked into CJC. You, Billy, old Billy have proven over and over to all have less than sufficient mental stability to be involved with enforcing laws, carrying guns and managing the citizens taxes money.
Sorry, but you all need to go and try to have a happy life somewhere else before you destroy the office totally. You all are an embarrassment to human kind as well as being a professional. You can put lipstick on a pig, but at the end of the day, its still just a pig.
A last note, on page D12 of the gazette, it listed Joy as your fiancee. So is this a mistake? I would think a paper that just gave you a lackluster endorsement could at least be correct on your relationship, whatever it is.
“…you were never qualified for your position due to the lack of skills…”
In all fairness, I believe she actually DID have the “skills” that dirty old man Bill Elder was looking for, maybe not the proper skills for a “Chief of Staff” or “Chief of Stuff” but definitely what he was after.
That article in the gazette makes me want to scream into a pillow. I’m so glad many of you here have acknowledged what a joke it is. I decided to check out the Huffors Facebook pages, could they be any more full of shit?? She claims that having an Angley door hanger put on her door is no way to live. Are you fucking kidding me? Maybe you shouldn’t be a part of an administration that fucks with peoples lives and livelihoods. Fuck you Janet Huffor and you’re ugly cheating husband. You’re getting exactly what you deserve.
Good morning all, amazing how quickly the attacker tries to play the victim, think Janet figured out she was in the wrong and now tries to spin the incident. It seems like the claims being made by the Huffors are not true about them being targeted by members of the Angley team. The information was left on their door by a volunteer working the area much like other volunteers are passing information for other candidates. You speak of taking the high road, but your action paint a totally different picture Janet.
Think about your actions and really think of the potential consequences. Take a minute to review CRS 18-3-303 (Any person who knowingly confines or detains another without the other’s consent and without proper legal authority commits false imprisonment.) Blocking in a person’s vehicle and not allowing them to leave, well read the statue. Sound familiar, if this volunteer chooses to file a complaint, this could have you being booked, fingerprinted, bond out of CJC, and have to go to trial. Is this what you are teaching your kids by claiming to be the victim, the fact is you were the aggressor. The only thing missing from this was billy using Bill’s line, mess with me and I will put a bullet in your head.
Bill, your whole administration is a bunch of thugs, harassers, and down right miserable individuals who will scatter like roaches after June 26, when the people have spoken. I hear you and Billy are telling everyone the votes of the deputies don’t matter because you have lots of support outside the office. Wow, what a statement for the sheriff to make about the people he is leading, but then again they have never mattered to you from day one.
How about more promotions at the office by old bill. Now Natalie is going to have the same position as jacki, what new position will you create for jacki and increase her salary with 1A funds. How about the two new girls going to be assigned to handle the body cam recordings. I hear that too was a fair and fluid process to give the positions to two of Janet’s friends without a fair process. Bill, you are ruining so many lives by offering this pay for play using 1A funds improperly. Give us the public a forensic audit to show how you have properly spent these funds or resign immediately.
How is the morale at the office today? Employees of the office and citizens of this county, its time to rid the office of this embarrassment of a sheriff and to elect someone who treats his people with respect, appreciation and leads from the front. Vote Angley!!!
Mike Angleys wife has donated $100k to his campaign, they’re funding themselves.
Hey Bill, that’s what A rock solid marriage and financial responsibility looks like!
Can you do that? Can your four wives help?
It’s called character and integrity.
Hey Sheriff, I got my ballot today and I am so excited I can execute my constitutional right to vote. It won’t be for you. I just thought you should know.
On another note, I read the article about the new mental health person and all of her credentials and I must say I was impressed. With that being said, We also had Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barrack Obama as presidents. Things that make you go huh.
That is the sound of Karma coming to your door Janet. You have played yourself out to be a victim for the last time, you are not better than Jennifer Reali. Cute little thing, but just as bat crazy and dangerous to get what you want.
I think you set up the entire deal at your residence, you try and blame two good innocent citizens just trying to support a candidate they believe in and what happens, you. You are outside in public screaming out of control, making threats so these folks were in fear of their lives, then you take a vehicle and block them in so they cannot leave the area, twice. Wow, if this is not criminal and stepping over that line I do not know what is. Bill, your employee is even crazier than you.
Best take the high road and report this incident to CSPD as any good law enforcement officer would do knowing these circumstances. Ms Kirkman, as an officer of the court, I know you have probably already spoken to Janet. I sure you advised her to turn herself in to authorities and do the right thing. But wait, no body in this administration knows how to do the right thing, only blame others, play the victim, and only serve your self because we know you do not serve the public.
How about Janet Facebook friends, you still support a criminal organization. Sounded like 4 counts for Felony menacing, 4 counts of false imprisonment, 4 counts of threats and intimidation. Wow, Dan May you best be calling for a special prosecutor and set up a grand jury to meet, you cannot turn a blind eye this time. Think its time your investigators be contacting these victims and set up an interview with Janet and get the video she made of the incident.
All these nice folks were trying to do was support a candidate of their choice, then they met Janet Huffor who approached them. What a nightmare, I sure hope Janet saves the video she took because it will truly show who was the victim and who was truly the aggressor.
Hey Janet how about posting the video you took while you were out of control person putting two folks in fear for their lives. Please post this for all to see, or did you already destroy the video like Hillary. I am sure the authorities will want to review this tape during your interrogation.
Karma is coming and soon than you may think. The only danger your kids are in comes from you, the person who should know better but does not. Turn yourself in before you are walked out of the office or your home in shame.
This administration is done, and Bill knows it.
One of my biggest frustrations with Elder’s campaign to date has been the implication that Angley has run a dirty campaign. Rather than disprove some of Angley’s talking points that have been critical of Elder’s record, Elder supporters are quick to cry foul play and accuse Angley of going negative. The solution is SO SIMPLE – some transparency. If Elder would respond in compliance with CORA and reveal a detailed account of how 1A funds were used. If 1A was used responsibly, why are there fewer deputies and patrols? Address the high attrition rate during his tenure – this directly relates to morale. If morale is good – show us, don’t tell us.
If there’s nothing to hide, and no truth to Angley’s perceived negativity – just show us, Bill Elder.
Let’s not entertain the Huffor’s dog and pony show intended to distract us from very real issues. If there really was wrongdoing on behalf of Angley – we would have seen the figurative receipts by now. Removing Angley literature from your neighbor’s door and placing it on your own is not targeted, Mrs. Huffor. Moving On. This is about public safety and the leadership abilities of Elder. Let’s hear it, Bill.
I too received my ballot yesterday and I’ve got to tell you that it was soooooo very satisfying to vote for Mike Angley! Military personnel know that you lead people and manage resources. I’m sure that Mike Angley will do a stellar job of both. The best thing about voting against Elder is that your vote is also against the Huffors!!! It’s time to clean house!
HOT HEAD COP!!
Apparently HOT HEAD COP is a contagious disease and it has penetrated the brains of both Billy and Janet Huffor. Both have had very public episodes of mental disorder for all to see. Billy has had many private moments not being able to keep his hands to himself but in the advance stages of HOT HEAD COP it goes public.
Billy lost his mind at the Republican general assembly and confronted those who he believed to be supporting Mike Angley, (A Felony Act). This very public performance of hysteria should leave no doubt in anyone’s mind that he is a certifiable nut. Even Dr. T or Ms. Gangemi/Gehrett should be able to make this diagnosis without much time, effort or brain trust. Ladies, this nut has also discharged his issued shotgun in PUBLIC during an angry episode with a dog. What is he capable of doing when confronted with an angry human?
Janet lost her mind in her own neighborhood with an innocent volunteer worker who was placing campaign literature at houses. Janet felt compelled to race out of her home and confront this individual with her mouth and her car. When the innocent VICTIM simply moved on without joining in the madness, Janet pursued the innocent VICTIM and blocked her a second time with her car while screaming pleasantries’ (Several Felonies Committed), Classy don’t you think.
We have seen many certifiable nuts in the news, they do harm to innocent VICTIMS throughout the country. Quite often with very horrific results. One thing they all share is that they showed signs of their inability to function in society well before they took to their horrible acts. We hear their family and friends say, we knew something terrible was going to happen with him. We tried warning anyone who would listen that something was wrong.
Well something is WRONG! Billy and Janet Huffor, both have become violent in their actions against innocent VICTIMS with their uncontrolled rage. Up to this point the only one to hang the blame sign on has been Bill Elder, he has been made aware of their ridiculous behavior time and time again but has only covered their actions. He has made such notable statements as “You talk about Joy (His wife) or my boy Billy (Huffor) and I’ll put a bullet in your head” or “Because I’m the F#$%ing sheriff” and his reference to a disabled veteran as “That F@#$ing Cripple”.
Now we have two more supposed professionals sitting on their hands, Dr. Trivette and the self proclaimed, highly credentialed Ms. Gangemi/Gehrett. What will your excuse be when one of these nuts finally pops? What will you say to the innocent VICTIM? Your both cashing a county check, the public is screaming for action, what will you do?
We’ve seen what Bill Elder will say, “I knew what this would feel like”
It’s always about him. Another HOT HEAD COP.
DirtyElder.com is concerned Corrupt Sheriff Bill Elder or Billy Huffor will retaliate against those they believe are behind this website. Corruption does not like to be exposed.
Most voters now have their primary ballots in hand and are ready to vote. When making your selection for Sheriff of El Paso County consider the following:
Mike Angley has not run a dirty campaign as portrayed by Bill Elder and his inner circle. What Angley has done is point out FACTS with DOCUMENTATION to support his claims. Many of these FACTS have been produced in DOCUMENTATION by Elder himself. Elders patrol manning numbers come directly from his own annual report. Countless other FACTS have been sent to the dirtyelder.com website as DOCUMENTS from employees within the office. What are the key words to back up Angley’s claims and rebuke Elders?
FACT FACT FACT FACT FACT FACT FACT FACT FACT FACT
DOCUMENTATION DOCUMENTATION DOCUMENTATION
In a previous post by: SOME TRANPARENCY PLEASE dated June 6th, the writer makes the perfect point, If Elder would simply produce his documents or better yet open the files for scrutiny he could absolve himself. Elder has had multiple offers to debate Angley and, as the writer correctly suggests, remained in hiding in hopes the public will be ignorant. It has also been reported that Elder has stated he is not worried about the deputies/employees vote because they’ve never made a difference anyway. Ladies and gentleman, this is how your sheriff feels about you. How much indifference will he show with your employment if he does prevail and does not get an extension of the public safety tax? He’s given you his answer, Count off by three!
This is a CRISIS election and you do matter!
The man power shortage is a CRISIS that will only get worse under another four years of Elder. He has shown you what actions he will take and has been consistent. Just this week he did it yet again with the promotion of Natalie Sosa to a new position. This is like GROUNDHOG DAY and it will only continue on the same death spiral if he gets another four years.
FACT: The decrease in deputies on patrol has led to a dangerous situation for them and the public. The situation in the jail is no different. The criminals do not have a low morale, high attrition rates or trouble with recruiting, Elder DOES!
DOCUMENTATION: The attrition rates for the El Paso County Sheriffs Office (Produced by Elder in his Annual review) show an alarming rate of departure the likes of which has never been seen before. Professional career people don’t leave organizations at this rate, they leave poor leadership.
FACT: The Public Safety Tax was put in place to add deputies to both Patrol and the Jail. Selected civilian positions were also included in areas that would see an increased workload. In Elders mind this obviously meant such key positions as Chief of Staff, Administrator, Civilian Inspector, PIO X-2, Lieutenants of absolutely nothing and on and on.
DOCUMENTATION: None, that’s right NONE! Elder and Borland have yet to produce a detailed document showing where the Public Safety Tax money has been spent. Ask yourself this, if a position did not exist prior to Elder taking office and all funds were accounted for, and they were. Where did the money to pay for these positions come from? The much maligned Terry Maketa produced a public DOCUMENT each and every year to show where the money went.
FACT: Elder claims in his radio ad to have created the first rural sub station and the first six deputy strong community outreach program. Okay this is true but he did it with deputy positions that already existed he simply renamed them and created two more sergeant positions, and threw in a Lieutenant slot to oversee a total of seven subordinates. Does this strike you as sound management?
DOCUMENTATION: A quick glance at the pay table for the sheriff’s office will show you that the cost of two sergeants and one lieutenant will buy four deputies for patrol, add the other five and patrol now has nine deputies patrolling. That’s what happens when you have less staff and more deputies, just like the KRW report said!
Elder likes the way things are and it’s not helping the tax payer one damn bit! He is content to hide in his office until after the primary hoping for a favorable outcome. He is depending on your ignorance or just plain lack of caring about another political battle. He has every intention of continuing to award NEW high paying positions to his friends with our money. He has no intention of fixing the manpower shortage, what’s my proof? He’s had three and a half years to do it and it’s only become worse!
This is a CRISIS ELECTION and you’re well being is on the line. It’s time for some fresh Leadership at the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office. The deputies that help you in your hour of need now need your help in their desperate hour of need.
Want to help your selves and the sheriff’s office, contact Mike Angley at angley4sheriff.org and volunteer, post a yard sign, make a donation and most of all VOTE.
It’s time to vote for Mike Angley
To both campaign’s, let put all the BS to bed and have a very public, very face to face debate, soul cleansing, or whatever you want to call it. I have read the current Sheriff feels he doesn’t need to defend his position. I would say, Sir, when you are in a contested race, it is relevant to talk to the public, especially Sir, in the presence of the opposition (from both parties). To the leadership of the county GOP, shame on you for turning a blind eye to one candidate, while ignoring complaints against the incumbents leadership practices. So what do you say El Paso county voters? Debate?
Good morning, I see little Ms Janet is now pointing fingers at Pfoff as the person alleged to have been video taping her family. Show the proof, you have confirming this was done by him or are you just talking out your ass, just like all the other slanderous comments you and Billy continually make with no proof. First, it was someone from the Angley Campaign, now its Pfoff. Who will you slander tomorrow. The real video confirmation that we know of is you committing multiple felonies out front of your residence and the making a video. Sure hope you have this preserved so the authorities can view to confirm all your slanderous BS. We have confirmation this happened and the charges will be coming soon. Hope the kids aren’t with you when that happens, could be a pretty sad day.
I understand Bill thinks he has this election in the bag, but when you continually use the death of one of your employees as re-election material, you are as low as they come. Lets get the Flick investigation results released, lets see what ballistics show, how about the tactics and planning that were in place before this op took place. Sounds like every that could have been done wrong was.
We know this is what the report will show, but dam the public and the family have the right to know and lets see if they still support you after all the facts and ballistics are made public. The Douglas and Adams county shootings were made public very shortly after the loses, why has this one taken so long? Quit hiding this investigation just like you have buried the KRW and 1A spending report. These reports will show just what and incompetent and unqualified sheriff you really are. The County Commissioner’s are just as responsible as you in not releasing this information.
Wow, you pay for the Lincoln Day dinner out of campaign funds, and again us the Flicks and Stone as pawns in your campaign, what a sick person. Why not pay for the table out of your pocket instead of campaign funds. We know like everything else you want someone else to pay not you. You pay when the cost is cheap, like a car wash. BFD!
Its looking like in the background, you are being investigated for criminal activity, by someone you have no control over. Can you hear it, they are coming, and soon.
How about it Lisa, how much longer can you continue to support this corrupt administration. Dr T, do you really believe all the crap this group is putting employees through, we know you see so many for job related issues, is EPSO a healthy environment for anyone these days?
Has anyone noticed there are not very many line level or common employees actively supporting old bill. He showed his ass by making the statement deputies and civilian votes don’t matter because he has lots of support outside the office. First of all you offended your employees, second as a citizen, I am offended you have no respect toward the folks you are supposed to be leading, and third, you are a poor example of how a professional law enforcement officer is supposed to be acting.
You just need to crawl back into your bottle, and go lay in a corner for days. You are not a leader from the front, you are a leader in word only. You are a disgrace to the profession of law enforcement. Even after you are gone the law suits will continue against you, wait and see. Only then they will be filed against you personally with not legal protection by the county.
Wait a minute, is that the sound of another bankruptcy being filed. Cha Ching
So…Sheriff Elder –
In your “acceptance speech” last Sunday with that “journalist” Tron, you flat-out stated that “35 FTE’s” (full-time employees) had been transferred to the jail…which was apparently your excuse for the lack of manning on your Patrol Unit. First of all…that “transfer” of FTEs NEVER happened. And we ALL within the EPSO know it. Second…show us the manning numbers and the dates that your FTE moves occurred. We’ve seen them, Bill…we know that you can’t substantiate your FALSE claims. You LIED in your interview and you PURPOSELY misled the republican/conservative listeners of Tron’s show. I’m not sure who to blame more…you for your anemic lie or Tron for no follow-up question. Either way…you both are absolutely appalling.
While we’re at it…
“Angley, Sweeney-Maurer aim to unseat Elder as sheriff”
Colorado Springs Gazette – 6/7/18
It was very convenient of Ms. Riley to run her story @ approximately 7pm on a Thursday evening and then have it buried on their website the following day. Also extremely convenient to have NO quotes from tbe lead name in her story (MIKE ANGLEY) and once again give the incumbent that opportunity to campaign. Elder states that he has provided a “safe, comfortable environment for them (employees) to work”…how nice.
Just how many of you current employees at the EPSO feel “safe and comfortable?”
“If he wins, I’ll vacuum on my way out,” Elder said….
We think it’s time to get the vacuum of your choice plugged-in, Sheriff…and you better get an awful lot of trash bags as well.
It must be a tiring job for the Huffor’s driving their kids to school or daycare in a free vehicle paid for by taxpayer money. Then during work time the work the political campaign for their boss during work time because you have no real responsibilities or staff to supervise. Nice try Elder folks, I hear you tried to have the Angley commercials taken off the air saying there was no factual proof of any of the allegations in the commercial. Just look around the fifth floor now that you are done calling KRDO, there is cronyism in every corner of the building. Look in the mirror, call your old man, if you cannot see it then you are more stupid than we thought.
You tried to say Mr Angley is making false allegations. Dang he list his sources to back-up what he is stating. To bad you show your stupidity by accusing a different person every week alleging they videotaped you and yours, and still provided no proof, just accusations you guys pull out of your ass.
Lets see if you are a person of character as you say Janet, post the stupid video you took. Its too bad after you did all the hollering and threatening you never said another word once you started recording. There was two people you were threatening, and your video will show they did nothing wrong other than wanting to get away from a crazy lady. You are in desperate need of psychiatric intervention, you are a threat probably to yourself, your kids and have demonstrated yourself to be a threat to the community by your aggressive actions on a public roadway.
Dr T please intervene before someone get physically injured by the actions of several of Elder’s staff, to include Bill. These are scary times without all these threats and criminal code violations coming out of a law enforcement office.
Cast those ballots!!!
Remember, integrity is doing the right thing, even when no one is watching. This can happen again, but we must get rid of the present administration and get back to operating as professional organization and take pride in a job well done and appreciated by your leadership.
Your supporter from very well known public figure like Victor Marx was highly-endorsing on you, seems to be he known you intimately.
Are you ready to face him and your other die hard supporters after you passed out while caressing your bottle on morning of June 27 , because you just lost reelection, lost right for pension , more incoming law suits, more bankrupt filing session, more criminal investigation on you and your thugs?.
A lot of more things will happens other than just lost and defeated, trust me !
Colorado Springs Gazette – 6/8/18
“Sheriff Elder’s campaign blasts Angley’s ad, wants it taken down”
Honestly…I think the citizens of El Paso County would expect more from their big, strong, local “Sheriff” than having him run to the media crying like this. Pathetic. And if Bill Elder thought that this was so important, why would he have Kyle Fisk (Kyle Fisk???) speak on behalf of Elder’s campaign? Why wouldn’t Elder speak? Where’s his Campaign Manager Janet Huffor?? Instead they send an absolute tool like Kyle Fisk to cry before the cameras. That alone speaks volumes.
Sheriff Elder…you are a complete mess. And it’s so much fun to watch.
Tic Tock…Tic Tock…Tic Tock…Tic Tock………………………………………..
BTW – Sounds like you may have lost your buddy Tron’s “full-bodied” endorsement this morning on KVOR. Yeah…he forgot to mention you…that’s a shame.
For all of those who are counting on “Dr. T.” to rush in and save the office – she was part of the group who saw to it Maketa was slandered before his own employees; Elder was elected; continues to support the same regime she helped; participates in this destructive environment by sharing confidential information and turning a blind eye to the trauma and abuse – sexual abuse – endured by so many. Look at who her bestie is – Jackie Kirby! Says it all right there. Don’t get me started on Kirby. That’s a miniseries all by itself but no one would watch it. Dr. T is not your savior or your friend. Speaking from experience. Protect yourselves and trust few.
I want to take a few moments to talk about honor. As a veteran I have served alongside people that I did not agree with or even liked. But when it was time to bear arms and confront our worst fears they were there for me as I was for them. For this, I honor them as brothers and sisters, the word respect comes to mind. It was not about my differences with them, but more of our strong desire to protect our country and each other that cannot be overlooked, here in lies loyalty. Keep the word “Loyalty” in your mind as you read on.
Lets look at it another way, a person is successful in their military career regardless of branch, while on active duty honor confers distinction of that rank, all the way from E-1 through General Officer. Along the way that person has learned something and has accomplished something to attain the rank that they finish their military career with. Someone who is proud of those accomplishments should not suffer distain from their brothers and sisters in arms but respect. A person should not be judged by retiring at the lowest rank possible or even the highest during their military career, all should be celebrated for their service and sacrifice and garner respect from your military family, past and present. Another word to remember “Respect”.
Your word is your bond and there is an expectation that you will keep it once you give it. I am honored to work with those that I can look in the eye, shake their hand and know that I can trust this person to do what they say they are going to do. Many times, during my military career that is how we made things happen. Today, I still try to do business that way when I can. When we had a problem with someone or something we looked that person in the eye and asked the tough questions. We did not always receive the answer we wanted, but we recieved and followed orders. Again, a team working towards a common goal of defending our Country and each other. “Keeping your word” meant keeping your integrity.
I am disheartened to see a retired Naval Officer who donated $5,000 to the Elder campaign has been calling Mr. Elder’s opponent (a brother in arms) an “asshole” and saying that he is “crazy”. He also tried to defend Mr. Elder who referred to Mr. Angley as a f**cking cripple by saying “so what if he did (paraphrased)”. A retired General Officer tried to punch holes in Mr. Angley’s service record based on HIS vast experience. Did this General Officer ever call Mr. Angley and sit down with him to discuss his concerns before making his thoughts public, no. A retired Army Sergeant who is willing to spread hate and discontent at the drop of a dime to further Mr. Elder in this race irrespective of the truth. Where did “Honor” go? Loyalty would have dictated that fellow brothers and sisters in arms who do not believe that Mr. Angley to be their choice would have either asked questions of Mr. Angley directly and supported their chosen candidate by lauding the virtues and the record-of their candidate, not ridicule a brother in arms with such disdain. What about keeping your word, Mr. Elder has stated in his literature that he kept his promises. Anyone see the results of his forensic audit? Anyone out there can point to his website and tell me where his financials are? Anyone tell me where Mr. Elder has been the last three and half years – now suddenly it is election season and he is out in the public. Bottom line is he lied on his pamphlet and he has lied to all of us. What do you see that I don’t.
When I see Mr. Angley in uniform I see the rank of Colonel. That tells me he has been in leadership roles and understands large organizational management and he is proud of his service. Pretty simple to figure out. Many times, law enforcement is referred to as a para-military organization, maybe a great fit? Time for a change and real leadership. When I look at Mr. Elder I see a dismal record and a whiner. We don’t need a whiner as a Sheriff, we need a leader. General, why don’t you be honorable and punch holes in Mr. Elders comments – such as “I have been in Law Enforcement my whole life”, I think you will see the numbers don’t add up.
It was a great honor to serve my country even though we were disrespected when we came home. I am proud of any veteran who is willing to take their training and experience and use it to better their (our) community. This is especially true when they see a problem that they can fix for the betterment of all, I think we call that “Service Before Self”. I have never disrespected a fellow veteran nor will I ever as I experienced it first-hand. Mr. Angley I wish you the best in your endeavors and am proud to be a fellow brother in arms. I would respectfully request that those veterans who support Mr. Elder do so by supporting his record and not by disparaging a fellow veteran.
We must show Honor, Respect, Loyalty and keep our word with each other. I am proud to be a veteran!
LTRV…thank you for your service Sir. Your post today caused me to look into the flag officer you mention. CO SoS and Elder’s endorsement page both show donations and endorsements from several genral officers.
Most disconcerting to me were the names of USAF General Victor Renuart and Maj Gen Bentley Rayburn. I worked for one when he was but a Colonel and the other I met in my precinct before redistricting a few years back.
To say I am gobsmacked the these flags would endorse Bill Elder is an understatement. In their defense I can only surmise that due to their donations being done late last fall, they were done only due to name recognition and WITHOUT any vetting.
TO General Renuart & Maj Gen Rayburn:
Sirs, it is NOT too late to do your homework right now. If you are still the leaders who put the well being of their troops first (that I knew you to have been in the past) do the honorable thing and pull your Elder endorsements and endorse Mike Angley in this race. If you do your vetting it is the ONLY conclusion you can make.
The men and women of the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office deserve your support NOT the corrupt sheriff. You would not have allowed someone of Bill Elder’s character and level of (or lack of) integrity in your units, why would you foist it on serving men and women who deserve only the best??
Say Bill will you debate with Mike,
to clear the air of all this strife.
Have you blown the public safety tax,
by shifting funds behind our backs.
Have fat checks gone to all your friends,
a few pet projects for Waller and Glenn.
Will you debate Mike Angley tonight,
or could it be your butts to tight.
Your radio ad has much to say,
but can it survive the light of day.
So far your only answers been,
I would not, could not debate with him.
What fear have you if these deeds you’ve done,
Have captured the votes of the hearts you’ve won.
Why won’t you meet with Mike on stage,
equipped with all your accolades.
Go head to head on immigration holds,
and therefore let the truth be told.
Perhaps discuss attrition rates,
so many things you could debate.
To date your only answers been,
I would not, could not debate with him.
Not on a stage not in the park,
not in daylight or the dark.
So here I sit with ballot and pen,
why will Bill not debate with him?
Something to hide, I’m sure I’m right,
I’ll go with my heart, and vote for Mike!
Wow Bill, you sure know how to spin an article in the Gazette today. You try to sound good in theory but not in practice. Your promotion practices are nothing but crap about how it is so fair and impartial. If it was as you say, an unbiased process that includes input from outside agencies. Really, Lil Billy Huffor is the poster child for you promotion process and cronyism. When he was at the bottom of the list for sergeant, you just changed the process, when the lieutenant board comes up same thing, change the process. When billy and Janet violate policy, just change the policy. You are such a liar!!
You claim to provide a safe and comfortable environment for employees. Yes we know that, but only these comforts are on the fifth floor, who are you fooling? The real working people are leaving at a record pace because their environments are dangerous and way understaffed.
You claim you discontinued the 287G program because you felt it was racially profiling people. Wait a minute, the only people that were being processed were “criminally illegal aliens” from a variety of ethnic backgrounds and countries. Again, Liar!!
You claim to be stamping out black market grows, marijuana headed for the east coast, cartel people running these operations. You have provided no hard documentation or proof, just you, huffor and schultz blowing the same horn.
Just a quick note ms janet, what you did to the two volunteers last week was unforgivable. You are going to be held responsible because you are nothing more than a vile, evil person. This will be shown to the community the type of person you really are. All your women friends at the republican events see you one way, but the real janet came out on the street in Rockrimmon last week. Best keep your office ready to vacate karma is knocking. Ding Ding.
So now we have Batman and Robin out fighting crime on the street of Colorado Springs. They chase down a harden female criminal who had committed criminal mischief by breaking windows at Bobby Brown’s Bail Bonds. Should have been pretty funny watching these two clowns chasing her down, handcuffing her, and then looking at one another saying, do you remember how to do the charging paperwork, and what about booking her into jail? Holy cray?
This will probably be the worst case ever filed. Cannot wait to read the case file and see who screwed the pooch more, Bill or Pete. We know both do not have the know how to do all the paperwork themselves, but here comes the dedicated patrolman or deputy to save their ass. Still at a minimum, Pete would need to do a supplement report and tired old bill would need to complete and (AOA) Assist Outside Agency) supplement. Better get back to the gym before you stroke out bill.
Sorry about the crazy lady breaking out the windows Bobby, but the floor show of these two old farts is priceless, only wish it was on video. For some reason I just cannot picture bill running any further than to the dinner table from the looks of him. Just saying.
Will be waiting for their version of the chase for the court file.
To the people of EPSO, we know you are afraid to let the public know your true feeling and what the morale of the office truly is, please voice your true thoughts of how the office is operating, shortages of personnel and leadership support, or lack of. I understand the pressures you are under but this is a safe haven for you to allow the public to know what is really going on with this office under Elder and his band of over compensated unqualified clowns.
Take a mine and share!!
Just one quick question here bill, in your recent Facebook post you claimed to have over (30) years in law enforcement. Obviously you are not a math whiz because the numbers just do not add up. Lets see 30 years in law enforcement, 16 years a unsuccessful realtor, that’s 46 years which means you started in law enforcement at tender age of a teenager. Get real, you do not have that many years as a certified peace officer enforcing the law. Now I understand why you filed bankruptcy, you are bad in math.
You had an early unsuccessful career at the SO before you left before being reassigned or terminated. You had a poor career as a realtor and filed bankruptcy twice, and now you are the most unsuccessful and hated sheriff in the history of the office, and how many failed marriages. Wonderful career to be proud of, such a stand up fellow.
Smell the roses bill, they stink just like you and your administration!
Hmmmm…this is interesting:
AGENDA (Item #15 – Executive Session)
Board of County Commissioners (“BOCC”) Meeting
Tuesday, June 12, 2018 9:00 AM
15. Executive Session:
a. Pursuant to C.R.S. § 24-6-402(4)(b) and (e), the County Attorney’s Office is requesting an Executive Session regarding a monetary demand by William and Janet Huffor, to include the following:
1. Conference with the County Attorney’s Office for the purpose of
receiving legal advice on specific legal questions related to a
litigation matter; and
2. Determining positions relative to matters that may be subject to
negotiations; developing strategy for negotiations; and instructing
negotiators. (Diana May – First Assistant County Attorney, County
I’m sure “transparency” won’t be an issue. Just sayin’….
Please tell us more if you hear anything? As if those two aren’t already getting more than they deserve in taxpayer funds…
Never mind…. it’s on the Indy today! More incompetence at EPSO…
Man…just another day at the EPSO.
But the hits just keep on coming !
Colorado Springs Gazette – 6/12/18
“El Paso County sheriff’s deputy suspected of felony drug crimes”
“A five-year El Paso County sheriff’s deputy (Steven D’Agostino) was arrested Tuesday on suspicion of introducing contraband in the first degree and unlawful possession of a Schedule II drug with intent to distribute, both felonies, and official misconduct, a misdemeanor, the Sheriff’s Office reported.”
Better open another bottle, Sheriff.
To Long Time Retiree and Veteran…thank you for your service Sir! Your post earlier caused me to look into the flag officer you mention. CO SoS and Elder’s endorsement page both show donations and endorsements from several general officers and numerous others. I am gobsmacked that supposed leaders of men/women in the past would provide money and endorse a clown who they would cashier out of their units if the truth was known.
Most disconcerting to me were the names of USAF General Victor Renuart and Major General Bentley Rayburn. I worked for one when he was but a Colonel and the other I championed during his earlier attempt at unseating Lamborn. In their defense I can only surmise that due to their donations being done late last fall, they were done only due to name recognition and WITHOUT any vetting.
TO General Renuart & Maj Gen Rayburn:
Sirs, it is NOT too late to do your homework right now. If you are still the leaders who put the well being of the troops first (that I knew you to have been in the past) do the honorable thing and pull your Elder endorsements and endorse Mike Angley in this race. If you do your vetting it is the ONLY logical conclusion you can make.
Deputy Young verbally attacked a coach while she coached at a high school volleyball game. He used very foul language and threats. The coach was scared and in fear of her safety. Elder and his crew buried it and refused to return the Coaches phone calls. She wanted Harassment charges brought upon him.
We see Janet and Billy Huffor had given notice to El Paso County of their intent to sue in the amount of $400,000. Amazing how such dedicated employees are spinning an unfortunate incident of Billy’s personnel file being release on a CORA request was done without some personal information redacted to Pam Zubeck of the Colorado Springs Independent. Ms Zubeck, immediately recognized a problem with the file when she received it and notified the county of issues she identified. Proper action was immediately take by Ms. Zubeck, no wrong doing. So Huffors, no $$ here for you.
It appears the Huffor’s have shown they are trying to make some quick money and get out of dodge. I do not see much loyalty from these two who have been coddled, over paid and protected for the past three years by daddy bill. How can old Bill keep these two people on staff after what they tried to pull over on the county. Even the commissioners did not fall for this fiasco. How much longer can you protect them? What they have attempted falls into the category of fraud. They knew prior to filing all the appropriate actions had been taken, they were notified, but still are only in this game for free cash, like Kull, Gehhart, and Habert.
In the claim billy talks about how he is involved in marijuana eradication, he is pursuing cartel growers, and so it would be a danger to him and his family if his address was known by these bad people.
Well what about Janet acting like a mad woman committing multiple felonies out front of your residence. She should have already been arrested for these violations. Ya think the address would not have shown up in an arrest record.
Also, what about the fact as registered republicans and delegates at the assembly, your names and addresses are all over these voter lists, so you are not hard to find there slick. Your home address and phone numers are on these lists. A few clicks and you are easier to find than the nearest Starbucks. Hey Siri…..
So if you want to read about this bogus suit, check out the story on the Colorado Springs Independent by Pam Zubeck. This lady is more ethical than Elder’s entire administration.
How much more bad publicity can there be, the news channels cannot ignore this information any longer and protect the office. How do you think the morale really is in your office bill if your son and chief of stuff are filing suits against the county. Oh ya she is also your chief of stuff/campaign manager/future felon. You got you a winner there.
Billy Huffor makes out like he is some super cop, taking down the cartels singlehanded, and that as a result, he is in danger if Pam Zubek gets his personal address and information.
Really Billy? Do you realize how much is already out there on you? I took me about 90 seconds through my good friend “Google” to find plenty of open source info on you… such as:
“William David Huffor was born in 1981 and he registered to vote, giving his address as 5547 (redacted) Dr, Colo Springs, El Paso County, Colorado, United States of America 80919. His telephone number is 1-719-201-(redacted). His voting status is: Active. He is registered in the Colorado Republican Party.
Voter ID number (redacted)”
I was nice Billy, like Pam Zubek was, and protected your info by redacting the specifics, but if you were competent, you’d have taken care of your info yourself. You endanger your own life.
You and Janet are out of control. You know your careers, and your gravy train, are nearly over. You, and Elder, created this mess. You got where you are through Elder’s corruption, and your support of his corruption, so I have no sympathy for you at all.
Cry baby bill
Suppose too many words and phrases in the news making most citizen in the county shook up, disbelieve about how your incumbent bad mouth you left and right, pompously. How dare him trying to disrespect and belittling you , worst so far he ran his ads in negative campaign like stampede steer.
Are you view all those dirty development so untrue, childish, shown as a manic behavior? If your answer is yes..,
Then why you ‘re bothered to respond for his allegations- you knew that you are innocent and didn’t do anything wrong.
Perhaps there was a much more sinister plot behind the latest Huffor madness that’s being overlooked. Perhaps it involves Ol’ man bill? If they happen to be worried about their future, and they should be, then hatch a plan to get some cash on the way out. It’s how Ol’ man bill works and he’s teaching the Huffors the ropes of deceit, arrogance and outright theft of YOUR money.
Let’s enter the brain of the three of them, I promise it won’t be a long trip.
In order to make a boatload of cash and get back at Pam Zubeck for having the gall to report their corruption they dream up the following. First Pam Zubeck who is by no means a cub reporter requests information about lil billy via CORA request. Now the fun begins, it is likely no mistake on the part of a county employee that lil billy’s info was sent to the Independent. These people do this for a living. No, it was purposely sent in hopes that the Independent WOULD publish the information and open the door for the Huffors to file their lawsuit against their nemesis Pam Zubeck.
However, The Independent doesn’t take the bait and notifies the county of their rookie blunder. Ol’ bill and the Huffors are now going to be caught yet again with their drawers down in another cash scam. Sooooo, ol’ bill can’t simply cover this one up with a policy change to save his children and comes up with the next best stupid idea, Let’s file against ourselves and hit the jackpot!
Notice in the Independent article that the Huffors attorney is none other than Erin Jensen, for those of you who don’t know this happens to be Ol’ bill’s personal attorney also. Now let’s consider how quickly this legal demand hit the BOCC, lightning speed! Folks this one was in the can and ready it just needed a little modification when Ms. Zubeck didn’t bite. These people are despicable in their lust for YOUR money. Janet “Hayseed” Huffor and her Nitwit sidekick see themselves as the high society of the Republican elite. Send them packing! Vote for Angley and end this ridiculous charade their calling an administration.
And even MORE good news on the Indy today…
Another tremendous (and long overdue!) piece by the CS Independent. And, although it’s noted in Ms. Zubeck’s piece, let’s look a the entire picture:
1) Ms. Kirby’s ill-conceived, shell-game of an attempt at blaming the increased numbers of deputies leaving the EPSO on the rise in “authorized” strength is embarrassing. Attrition numbers should be based on “assigned” strength, or actual employees hired and working, not some budgeted number of employees potentially hired. Understand that Elder’s EPSO has run-short by 20-30 deputies during his entire administration and they have never met that “authorized” figure.
2) Let’s paint a complete picture of the entire “Where have all the EPSO employees gone” issue under Bill Elder:
Sworn Resignations = 171
Sworn Retirements = 53
Sworn Terminations = 12
Civilian Resignations = 133
TOTAL = 369 Employees NO LONGER WITH THE EPSO since Jan ’15
Throw in another 30-40 Civilian Retirements/Terminations – that number is available somewhere as well – and now we’re pushing (if not exceeding) 400 employees that have left the Office under Elder’s watch. The numbers don’t lie. And each one of those numbers has a story to tell.
Now that’s something to be very proud of…isn’t it, Bill?
Attrition at the EPSO,
Nice try Jackie, I think if we look at the names of the departed, we’ll see more veterans than new hires. It’s the administration they’re running from. Get yourself, the Huffors and Bill together and look in the mirror, IT’S YOU!
Wow! Kirby must have taken a common core math class to skew the numbers that bad. She is a chameleon that adapts to anyone or anything that is best for her at any given time no matter who she has to throw under the bus or worse. Her values and morals are equally the same. Her narrative changes as does her loyalty – well it’s not loyalty, but self-preservation. She is her number one priority. Jackie Kirby. How does she sleep at night?
Wow, now Padgett is retiring, and for the record Jackie, this commander is not a new hire. And next week, another deputy with so much knowledge also has had enough of this administration. Congrats on retiring. Its sad to see all this experience walking out the door, and I understand worthless old Borland was the reason this person is leaving. Time to go to Az Larry, you should have never been hired, you brought no special skills or expertise to the office.
Can you imagine how stupid the Huffor’s were to use Elder’s personal attorney, why would the sheriff be involved in this situations. Sounds like a conspiracy. Was there possibly a kickback in the wings for old bill. Wonder if he got one from habert or porter after they used the same attorney.
What about the deputy that was arrested for bringing in the drugs. Was no one watching, lack of supervision, poor background checks. How many others were aware of his behavior and never spoke up, they are just as culpable. Just like all the people that were in the training class and have not spoken up about the threats and intimidation tactic by elder.
Just remember people, silence is the same as endorsing this corrupt behavior. Are you honoring the oath you took when first hired? If you are allowing this behavior to continue, you are just as corrupt as elder by your silence. Time to step up or step away.
Step up and say no more corruption and this administration must be held accountable by the employees.
Wow, little larry borland is allowed to run his mouth spewing F-bombs any time he pleases. Sounds like little man syndrome, just like lil billy. So why is Elder allowing this behavior to go on right outside his door. What happened to professional decorum, I guess it does not apply to people on the fifth floor. Padgett is more of a professional than Larry ever will be. I would not have blamed him if he had not knocked Larry out. Larry could not run his own house effectively, what makes one think he could run an office of this size in a professional manner.
How about it TV stations, you do not see the story here with the huffors using elder’s personal attorney. What about asking the old guy what his involvement was in this suit, you know he had his hand out, the crook!!! How about letting the good citizens know what this administration is trying to cover up, to maybe call for an investigation into janet’s behavior in threatening two private citizens.
The actions of the unstable elder staff, to include bill, have already reach the level of criminal, but amazingly the DA and police chief turns a blind eye.
What about Diana May, now you have seen first hand what the huffors were trying to do by filing suit against the county, and you have to know the crooked sheriff also had his hand in this. So where was Lisa Kirkman when all this was going on, is she not a part of the county attorney’s office.
What an office full of crooks, and KVOR is the most disgusting station ever, time to file the formal FCC complaint due to the number of times they refer or promote elder, but claim to be neutral. Time for the FCC to do a formal investigation into KVOR!!
Hey bill, you complete that supplement yet? Maybe you could have billy do it for you. Right he does not know how to do one either. Lil billy, in your suit and in the gazette article you claim to work against violent drug cartels. Really, the most were have seen is a cuban guy with a green card. Where is you proof of any violent drug cartel involvement in these grows. If you were truly in fear of these alleged cartels, why would you vacation in Mexico which is the home of these alleged organizations. If you are as big a threat to them as you claim, you would be a target and have a price on you. Guess what, they don’t even know you name or care. As they say in Mexico puto cabron.
Good job channel 11 and Diane Derby. Yes deputies throughout the facility are working understaffed and placed in dangerous situations everyday, and the sheriff could care less. Tonight he talked about all the deputies being assaulted and but could not release the videos because they show response and tactics. Well bill don’t you think all the inmates have already seen these responses and tactics already, the live versions due to the high number of assaults on staff and other inmates. What a stupid response by a leader who has been in law enforcement for 30 years, according to bill. How would you have any idea what these dedicated deputies experience in the jail, you have never worked a shift in the wards. How about you run 2 wards for a shift and walk in their boots.
Why not show the media the video of when the deputy was attacked while having to work in two wards alone, supervising 160 inmates back in March. I understand this deputy is still off on worker comp due to the injuries sustained in this attack. Show Ms. Derby this video of the deputy being blindsided. The quick response came from other inmates housed in the unit. If it was not for their quick response, he may have been killed. Show her this video you lying POS.
Quit the lying and cover up’s. Your time has come, all the real facts are coming out showing what a shoddy operation and leadership group you have running the office.
You have some citizens supporting you but they do not know all the facts. The people know you had your hand in the bogus suit the huffors are filing, and I hope the commissioners will finally call you out on your involvement. What will you do next, threaten to put a bullet in the head of the media if they push you for the video mentioned before, or will you just say sorry that video was some how deleted, just like the huffor video patting down the female deputy. Oh that’s right, old bill got her daddy to have his daughter change her story and and the gave him a big promotion, and billy walked to sin another day.
Too bad so sad, the video from March exists, and now the media will be all over you and make you answer for all your lies.
More and more of your staff are talking and are in survival mode, so don’t be surprised whats coming out in print or breaking news about other incidents involving your staff.
Stay strong to the dedicated people at the office, soon the plague will be eradicated soon.
Vote your conscious, and watch the 6 of your brothers and sisters.